From n6jsx@yahoo.com Sat Apr  1 16:08:12 2017
From: Dale Kubichek <n6jsx@yahoo.com>
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Problems with my Arrow
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2017 16:07:07 +0000
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After you try all of the suggestions, go to fundamentals using a ruler.=20

I bought an ARROW 146437-10WBP in 2011, never used it until 2012, when I foun=
d a serious VSWR workmanship flaw in the 2011 ARROW products.=20

2m VSWR sucked and I could not adjust it in no matter what I did. See my file=
s in:=20
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/HAM-SATs/files/Antenna%20-%20Commercial/A=
rrow%20II/

What I discovered is the 2m Driver gamma-match wire was 1.00" too short (per =
ARROW actual documentation). Upon verifying this with ARROW they sent me a ne=
w 2m driver element since we cannot unpress the pressed in BNC connector to c=
hange the wire.=20

My advice it to measure ALL per ARROW documentation especially the gamma-matc=
h wires - who knows maybe ARROW messed up, again!=20

Also the ARROW Diplexer is max 10W, be carefull not to go much higher in FM! =


********************************Message: 6
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2017 20:45:36 -0400
From: John Brier <johnbrier(a)gmail.com>
To: Ken Alexander <k.alexander(a)rogers.com>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Problems with my Arrow*******************************=
*=C2=A0Best regards,=C2=A0=C2=A0=20
Dale Kubichek, MS-EET, N6JSX
=C2=A0=C2=A0 Master Mason, 32=C2=B0, Shriner
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0NRA Life/Cert Instr, USN Vietnam Vet
Sidney, OH 45365=C2=A0 EN70vh
937-726-6677

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HAM-SATs
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RDF-USA

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From normanlizeth@gmail.com Sat Apr  1 16:27:14 2017
From: Norm n3ykf <normanlizeth@gmail.com>
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Problems with my Arrow
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2017 12:27:13 -0400
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Pre Tim arrow elements were constructed with hollow arrow shaft
crimped to threaded ferrules. Whoever did mine used the wrong crimp
die. 75% of the elements inspected had fractures.

Kept a few for example if anyone wants pics.

Bought new elements from Tim. Replaced bad ones. Problem solved.

They preferred to fail FAR, FAR away from home.

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On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Dale Kubichek via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb(a)amsat.org> wrote:
> After you try all of the suggestions, go to fundamentals using a ruler.
>
> I bought an ARROW 146437-10WBP in 2011, never used it until 2012, when I fo=
und a serious VSWR workmanship flaw in the 2011 ARROW products.
>
> 2m VSWR sucked and I could not adjust it in no matter what I did. See my fi=
les in:
> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/HAM-SATs/files/Antenna%20-%20Commercial=
/Arrow%20II/
>
> What I discovered is the 2m Driver gamma-match wire was 1.00" too short (pe=
r ARROW actual documentation). Upon verifying this with ARROW they sent me a =
new 2m driver element since we cannot unpress the pressed in BNC connector to=
 change the wire.
>
> My advice it to measure ALL per ARROW documentation especially the gamma-ma=
tch wires - who knows maybe ARROW messed up, again!
>
> Also the ARROW Diplexer is max 10W, be carefull not to go much higher in FM!
>
> ********************************Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2017 20:45:36 -0400
> From: John Brier <johnbrier(a)gmail.com>
> To: Ken Alexander <k.alexander(a)rogers.com>
> Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb(a)amsat.org>
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Problems with my Arrow*****************************=
*** Best regards,
> Dale Kubichek, MS-EET, N6JSX
>    Master Mason, 32=C2=B0, Shriner
>     NRA Life/Cert Instr, USN Vietnam Vet
> Sidney, OH 45365  EN70vh
> 937-726-6677
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HAM-SATs
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RDF-USA
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