I'm just curious why AMSAT couldn't concentrate on 1 HEO every 9 years or so while the universities build the LEO's with transponders or repeaters? I can't see why the Amateur community couldn't ask them to include an FM repeater to go along with their telemetry beacon, instead of a beacon-only sat everyone loses interest in after the students graduate. There's probably a long complicated answer, but I figured it would be worthwhile to show my point of interest (HEO). I still have my 2.4G RX antenna for AO-40...

How much would SpaceX charge us for a launch? I'm guessing much cheaper than NASA at this point. It would've been interesting to have the next HEO on his Roadster!

Larry
N1MIW

On Mon, Feb 1, 2021, 7:00 PM Doug Person <doug@k0dxv.com> wrote:

Jim... So I take it you're not much of a fan of FT-8. I'm totally with you. FO-20, FO-29, The Russian RS sats - these were great.

For me FM is almost impossible. By the time I hear them they are jammed. I'm not going to fight my way through for a call sign and a grid square. In the 80's and 90's you could at least get a minute or two in and know who you were talking to and what he was running.

Doug -- K0DXV

On 2/1/2021 3:47 PM, Jim Walls wrote:
On 02/01/2021 11:22, Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB wrote:
Has AMSAT ever taken a survey to find out what the membership wants for future satellites, or are we so insignificant  that our wants do not matter, just as long as the dollars keep flowing toward AMSAT? How many of us would rather see a couple of FM birds put into orbit, rather than the difficult to work satellites? How many of us members have their fun on the FM birds? I know that I do, roving, etc. The simplicity of the FM birds made satellite radio fun. A handheld antenna and one or two HT's out in a corn field or a park, giving different grids to those who need them. Just an opinion.
 
Brad Smith KC9UQR
 

Brad, that is your opinion - which you are totally entitled to.

Unfortunately, there are several major categories of amateur satellite operations.  Each has their advantages and disadvantages.  There are amateurs who favor one vs the others.  In other words, you can't please everyone with any one satellite, and there is not the budget to do it all.

Just for the record, although I have over 1,000 contacts on FM satellites, I really don't give a crap about conversations that consist of nothing more than a callsign and report (if you're lucky).  I actually want to be able to TALK to people.  That applies to non-satellite operations too.  Fortunately, being very close to the US west coast, there were a few of us that could regularly get on the FM birds when they were way out to sea and actually hold conversations with others.  The vast majority of my satellite operating time has been SSB on linear birds - preferably at something higher than LEO.  I got to operate on AO-10, AO-40, and was on AO-7 on it's first day in it's second life.  FO-20 and FO-29 were almost daily operation for me.

So for me, I would prefer one FO-29 class satellite over a dozen FM or digital LEO cubesats.  GTP or HEO would be even better.  But that's my opinion.


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