Joe, It doesn't irritate me one bit. Like many other Members, I've hadthis BB going to Spam for several weeks. I check it out once a weekjust to see if the BB still exists. It's rare that I actually read anything.I no longer watch TV News because of the Political chaos and non-stopsniping and this BB has fallen into the same abyss. Not worth my timeor blood pressure. 73, Bob K8BL
On Sunday, August 9, 2020, 09:35:40 PM EDT, Joseph Armbruster via AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org wrote:
Jeff,
i'll just say this and end here, because it's getting really old and this feels like tail chasing at this point with no end. In addition, it's becoming unproductive and irritating for everyone on the list and needs to stop, so i'm going to do my part. The bottom line is, it DOES matter who wins this next AMSAT election, if you still want AMSAT to take their stack forward, get people to work together and preserve the organizations relationships.
I don't think anyone wants a continuation of the last two years of --bb back and forth-ing, he-said-she-said, and legal demands and nonsense... i got involved with all this on the -bb last month, out of sheer frustration with what I was hearing team-awesome spout off about AMSAT. Because, that is not the AMSAT I know. I still maintain relationships with many members, have regular communications about all sorts of random things, etc... with guys all over the US. and one observation I have made is that not one... Not a single one of the names that I know, that ever built anything for AMSAT, have spoken up about any of this stuff on the-bb or expressed the least bit of interest in any of it. They still send technical emails, send stuff out on the development lists, etc... shoot me text messages on and off... but, literally Nothing about any of this. That speaks volumes to me personally.
All this talk about smoke and fires, clouds and demands, is to me, just a lot of smoke and mirrors.
KJ4JIO, clear.
Joseph Armbruster
On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 8:14 PM Jeff Johns via AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org wrote:
If AMSAT had regular board meetings, preferably monthly, then things
like this would be taken care of quickly and efficiently.
We would all be reading detailed minutes about all the "boring ordinary"
stuff that should be going on - in the Journal.
Exactly! A forensic audit may not be simple but I would hope that someone within AMSAT could produce a list of physical assets which could be checked to make sure they are still in AMSAT’s control and inventory. Does a list of assets exist?
It doesn’t matter who wins this election. The dark cloud over AMSAT will remain until the members and donors are satisfied that their is no malfeasance that has, or is, taking place within AMSAT. All the members and donors can see the smoke and there’s no smoke unless there’s a fire.
It saddens me that no legacy BoD member or Officer running against me will step-up and join me in requesting that a third-party audit AMSAT. Like I said, there wouldn’t be any smoke if there wasn’t a fire. This leads many members to wonder what else is being hidden. There may well be nothing being hidden but enough has been uncovered that a jury of average people would not be convinced. There’s a simple way to make the bad thoughts that members and donors have. Allow a full audit and inventory of AMSAT’s finances and inventory.
Jeff WE4B http://we4bravo.com
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