Hi Friends,

There are ALWAYS some challenges when a bird is launched, and then "the real name" is determined.  It takes some work to track and follow a new bird.  Part of the package of chasing new birds, really...

Here is one way I work through any difficulties (real or perceived by me...) with TLEs.

Use your browser to check out the TLE files, directly, before loading them into any tracking program.
Download and edit if needed, before loading in your program.  Don't know where the file goes for your tracking program?  Figure it out ;)

Here are the links I find helpful:
My preferred source is this: http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt

Another likely suspect is this one, but I prefer the above without any header information...
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasa.all

Here is another source I consult when needed.  PE0SAT seems to be on top of things with new launches!  So, if you're chasing "new birds" check out this file for something new...again, beware the satellite name! Edit as you need to...
http://tle.pe0sat.nl/kepler/mykepler.txt
and/or this one:
http://tle.pe0sat.nl/kepler/research.txt

And of course, direct access to a couple files on Celestrak (although you may spend a lot of time editing satellite names, depending on your program, etc.)
https://celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/amateur.txt
https://celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/tle-new.txt

I recommend you bookmark these links above!  Understand they are all different for satellite names, so you probably can't just use one, change to the other, and expect it to work "right."   (Hint--SatPC32, tackle the use of Amsatnames.txt)

There are a huge number of places to get TLEs.  The file name alone isn't enough to know where it's coming from...there are many, many other sources. 

73,


Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
AMSAT Director and Command Station



On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 9:21 AM crohtun--- via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
It was just by chance that I avoided the problems that have occurred because I switched to using amateur.txt to keep up with XW-3 / CAS-9 / HO-113 just before the problems cropped up. So two questions now:
1. Should I switch back to using nasabare.txt or stay with amateur.txt?
2. If I switch back to nasabare.txt, I don’t see HO-113 listed. How do I get an update for that?
Tnx,
Ray KN2K



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On Tuesday, January 4, 2022, 3:58 PM, Joseph B. Fitzgerald <jfitzgerald@alum.wpi.edu> wrote:

nasabare.txt and nasa.all have been fixed on the AMSAT web site.   

For fastest service with problems of this nature, please send a note to webmaster@amsat.org

de KM1P Joe

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