Ant,

The person you are trying to inform is acting like he has no idea what

you and I are talking about. He shows his disdain for persons by not using

their name when he addresses their message.

ANYONE that does NOT know of the operating problems with the

FM SATs these days must not ever use them. Or, they are ignoring the

issue rather than address it. Or, they do not even know what the proper

operating procedures are. Or, they have no clue HOW to instruct others

on the proper procedures. Or, something else that will not be mentioned.

My comments were to bring attention to the problem so that persons dealing

with the instruction of people anxious to get involved with working the

FM SATs could be taught proper operating procedures. This would be a

benefit to all SAT users both new and experienced. Currently, there are a

large number of regular users that avoid FAM SATs due to the often daily

chaos and mayhem preventing normal usage. Why does this need to continue

when a little education/instruction would help?

Ant... Thanks for the help of you and your YL to shed more light on the problem.

As a Rover, I'd rather not avoid the FM SATs since many users only have FM

capability and they should not be excluded due to the actions of others who

simply do not realize the problems they are causing by lack of education.

TNX/73, Bob K8BL

On Tuesday, March 16, 2021, 06:33:12 AM CDT, Ant Lefebvre <anthony.lefebvre@gmail.com> wrote:

Clint,

I'll send you and Bob the recording of the pass I was speaking of. :) It is trimmed from the full 6 minutes I could hear the pass.

But to elaborate... For a solid 2.25 minutes not a single QSL to be heard on a SO-50 pass while stations tried to access the bird. Ending with a frustrated station pleading with other hams to let one guy answer at a time. Certainly didn't help that there were 2 rovers on the pass.

The purpose of my PM to Bob was to thank him for getting the XYL and I 4 new grids. I get his frustration on the FM birds and hope that he will continue on. (Un)fortunately working satellites seems to be a very hot topic lately. It's great that so many more hams are giving it a shot, but that does make those FM satellites a bit harder to work successfully (if at all) during a pass.

-Ant NU1U

On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 12:28 AM Clint Bradford via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:

Your cited message tells me really nothing.

One person’s “mayhem” might be seen by another as an
“exciting pile-up, with so many trying to access an FM satellite.”

I’ll get straight answers elsewhere - thanks anyway.

Clint Bradford K6LCS

On Mar 15, 2021, at 7:51 PM, Bob Liddy (K8BL) <k8bl@ameritech.net> wrote:

>>... It was complete mayhem ...

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