Hi Clint.
>> ... Now on to using these radios. Clint - since you have been stridently insisting on the illegality of using non-FCC-certified radios on the US ham bands, could you please show us the specific law/rule/regulation that states that hams cannot use non-certified commercial gear in the ham bands?
(Clint cited 47 USC 302(b), Seciton 2.803(a)(1) of FCC Rules, and 47 USC 503 (b) related to the import/distribution/sale of non- certified radios, plus a quote about radio transceivers in 136-174 and 400-470 MHz that was not part of any FCC rule or US law)
I will dig up my notes from a conversation with Bll Cross later n the week.
Thanks for not answering my question which you referred to in this post. You cite several sections that relate to the import and sale of this gear, but not related to using it.
Who in the US is selling/marketing Jingtong, FDC, and other non- certified radios? Certainly not HRO, AES, etc. Not in the ham magazines here. FCC enforcement appears to be geared toward those who sell many of these radios, like with the "10-meter" radios. The "Radio transceivers operating in the ... " part is not actually in any rule. That was part of a 2006 FCC decision against a California guy who was importing and selling these radios on eBay:
http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/2003/DOC-268422A1.html
Again, this is not related to my question about the *use* of these radios. This was the case of a stateside "shop" that was importing these radios, which clearly is a violation of the rules you cited and within the explanations of the terms "willful" and "repeated" as you posted.
You are welcome to take another try at answering my question about the *use* of these radios. Maybe your notes from that conversation with Bill Cross will shed some light on that - even if that conversation is just Bill's opinion, and not necessarily the opinion of the FCC. I have never seen an FCC rule or decision that says hams are not allowed to use non-certified gear, whether it is made for the ham market or a radio meant for commercial two-way use modified or programmed for use on ham frequencies or a non-certified radio. Part 97's technical requirements would need to be met for the gear, as well as the operator using the radio within the bounds of his/her license.
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/