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The Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico, Guam, etc. all count as separate entities for these awards as DXCC entities.
I find it ironic that an organization that is incorporated in the District of Columbia and had it's first headquarters in the District of Columbia would not recognize that the District of Columbia is a separate and distinct entity that is not part of the State of Maryland.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Bruce kk5do@amsat.org wrote:
I took over processing the awards for AMSAT over 10 years ago and have processed it the same way the previous awards managers had done.
You are absolutely correct that DC does not count for this award because in creating our award, we used the ARRL worked all states award, the RAC worked all provinces award and the DXCC list to create our award. There is nothing in any of those awards that include District of Columbia and our award does not either.
Also, we do not include US Territories such as US Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico, and Guam and a couple other islands in our awards.
73...bruce
On 9/24/2013 11:24 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
Bruce,
That an illogical argument. Only three states have their own prefixes: Alaska, Hawaii, and California.
It also ignores the fact that the District of Columbia is not part of Maryland. Incidentally, DC is the only top-level subdivision of the United States or Canada that does not count as a separate entity for this award.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Bruce kk5do@amsat.org wrote:
If the FCC and ARRL would recognize the District of Columbia with its own
prefix as the RAC has done with their provencies and territories then we should. However, until they do, it is included as a contact for Maryland.
Here is the list from RAC that they use for their contests. Nova Scotia [NS] (VE1, VA1, CY9, CYØ); Quebec [QC] (VE2, VA2); Ontario [ON] (VE3, VA3); Manitoba [MB] (VE4, VA4); Saskatchewan [SK] (VE5, VA5); Alberta [AB] (VE6, VA6); British Columbia [BC] (VE7, VA7); Northwest Territories [NT] (VE8); New Brunswick [NB] (VE9); Newfoundland and Labrador [NL] (VO1, VO2); Nunavut [NU] (VYØ); Yukon [YT] (VY1); Prince Edward Island [PE] (VY2).
AMSAT chose to use the same list in their award since AMSAT-NA includes Canada.
Hope this helps.
73...bruce
On 9/24/2013 9:13 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
Good morning,
I was curious about the rules for the the OSCAR Satellite Communications Achievement Award, the OSCAR Sexagesimal Award, and the OSCAR Century Award.
The rules from KK5DO's website state that "A contact is defined as one with a station in another state, DXCC country or Canadian Provience. Once you have a contact with a station in that area, you must hunt for another."
Furthermore, the rules also state that "For those that have the RAC CANDADAWARD or ARRL WAS with satellite endorsements, you may submit a copy of your certificate as proof of working the 13 Canadian Proviences or 50 U.S. States."
Since Canada only has ten provinces, that implies that the three territories also count under the definition of "province." Similarly, I would argue that the definition of "state" should also include the District of Columbia as a separate entity since the precedent from counting the Canadian territories as "provinces" is clear.
Does the District of Columbia count as a separate entity for the purposes of these awards?
73,
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