On Monday, August 23, 2021, 01:20:50 AM EDT, Clint Bradford via AMSAT-BB <[email protected]> wrote:

For the third time today, Bob, there is nothing you have suggested that hasn't been included in all my presentations.

Scores of AMSAT members have been among the thousands who have attended. The only "complaints" have come from two people. These two - as far as I can tell - have NEVER attended any of my presentations.

You can attend a show ... I can keep a spot open for you. And after attending, others would give your opinions and suggestions more weight when you can actually say you know what you are talking about, and offer objective suggestions. Here's a couple upcoming dates - accommodating different times in the evenings:

September 16, 4pm Pacific

September 1, 7pm Pacific

Clint K6LCS

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On Aug 22, 2021, at 9:25 PM, Bob Liddy (K8BL) <[email protected]> wrote:

Clint K6LCS,

These are suggestions from many long-time and actual users
of the FM SATs. Following them would help alleviate the chaos
and mayhem often taking place during most evening and weekend
passes.

Do you plan to include all/any of them in your presentations? Do you
reject any/all of them? Which ones do you plan to include and/or
reject for consideration? Do you think any of them are worthwhile?

Do you not accept/consider suggestions? Do you not appreciate
regular and long-time users offering suggestions? Do you feel that
fellow AMSAT Members are welcome to offer suggestions? Are your
fellow AMSAT Members out of line when offering suggestions? It would
appear that you are not open to suggestions since you are dismissive
when they are offered. One would think that an AMSAT Ambassador
would be open and receptive and welcoming to suggestions. Yet, you
obviously convey the opposite impression.

TNX/73, Bob K8BL

On Monday, August 23, 2021, 12:25:23 AM EDT, Bob Liddy (K8BL) <[email protected]> wrote:

Clint K6LCS,

These are suggestions from many long-time and actual users

of the FM SATs. Following them would help alleviate the chaos

and mayhem often taking place during most evening and weekend

passes.

Do you plan to include all/any of them in your presentations? Do you

reject any/all of them? Which ones do you plan to include and/or

reject for consideration? Do you think any of them are worthwhile?

Do you not accept/consider suggestions? Do you not appreciate

regular and long-time users offering suggestions? Do you feel that

fellow AMSAT Members are welcome to offer suggestions? Are your

fellow AMSAT Members out of line when offering suggestions? It would

appear that you are not open to suggestions since you are dismissive

when they are offered. One would think that an AMSAT Ambassador

would be open and receptive and welcoming to suggestions. Yet, you

obviously convey the opposite impression.

TNX/73, Bob K8BL

On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 11:44:38 PM EDT, Clint Bradford via AMSAT-BB <[email protected]> wrote:

Again, Bob, I need to alter nothing in my presentations - they have always included proper op techniques. All 125+ of 'em.

Clint K6LCS

On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 09:22:21 PM EDT, Bob Liddy (K8BL) <[email protected]> wrote:

Clint K6LCS,

Since the regular users of the FM SATs have not seen any improvement in

the chaos and mayhem in the daily Operating Procedures, you may want

to consider additional emphasis or a different approach. After many years of

Satellite use from home and roving I offer these suggestions for improvement.

1 - Remind new & seasoned users that the FM SATS are virtually the same

as the terrestrial FM Repeaters that many are used to using. And, that

only one signal can be properly processed at a time. It is only ONE

Channel and must be shared.

2 - Transmissions need to be short since there is only a minimal time that

the SATs are visible during a pass and many folks desire to use them.

3 - Always allow a QSO in progress to be completed before transmitting.

4 - Due to fading and noise and distortion, signals often are not copied

clearly. It's best to use phonetics since several letters sound similar and

multiple repeats can take up valuable time during passes.

GL/73, Bob K8BL (AMSAT #6593, since 1979)

On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 05:31:48 PM EDT, Clint Bradford <[email protected]> wrote:

>> ...Please emphasize proper Amateur Operating Procedures ...

I have during each and every one of my125+ shows so far.

Clint K6LCS

On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 05:26:30 PM EDT, Bob Liddy (K8BL) <[email protected]> wrote:

Clint K6LCS,

Please emphasize proper Amateur Operating Procedures so that the chaos

and mayhem that is experienced daily on the FM Satellites can, hopefully,

be abated. This needs to be stressed for new users. Please have them visualize

an FM Repeater in the sky and how only one user at a time can operate

through its ONE Channel. One must allow an existing QSO to be completed

before someone tries to begin another one. Try to keep transmissions short.

Use phonetics since many letters sound like others.

TNX/73, Bob K8BL

On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 04:03:14 PM EDT, Clint Bradford via AMSAT-BB <[email protected]> wrote:

Q. Do you publish a recording of your satellite presentation?

A. There are a few videos of my presentation out there ... on convention or club sites. But there's a couple of reasons I do not publish one myself …

1. Each of my shows is very-much-personalized for its audience. There are 15-19 "sldes" that are audience-specific that get changed. It would just be weird to have you listen to club-specific information for someone else's club!

2. Like books on many topics, once they are published, they are outdated. And so are these satellite presentations. Timely information I give tonight regarding ISS operations and "current status" of some satellites will change and might NOT be current next week - as life goes on.

SO ... As you cruise the 'Net for satellite information, make sure the sites you bookmark respect you enough to DATE THEIR INFORMATION! A Scout leader called me up a couple years ago after a Field Day, and was irritated that he was not able to work AO-51 for his large gathering. He had cruised the 'Net and found "Easy Sats to Work!" info for AO-51 - and set up his equipment for AO-51. Well, AO-51 passed away / ceased operating 11/29/2011. But that Web site he used didn't tell its visitors that: It was a OLD article, current when it was originally published …

Clint Bradford K6LCS

AMSAT Ambassador, ARRL registered instructor

www.work-sat.com

(909) 999-SATS (7287)

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