Hi Gabe,
Please don't think I am am anti satellite,
I was active for years on AO-10 and AO-13 and the Russian LEO birds of 2up and 10 down, etc.
What I am Against is an Award that allows credits from both in the same award...
ASSISTED QSOs IE: Satellites, Repeaters, Etc and UNASSISTED QSOs IE: Tropo, Es, MS, EME, etc
Within the SAME AWARD!
It makes no sense to mix the two in one award as they are Apple and Oranges IE: Not the same animal.
Weather I have made any recent Satellite contacts or not has no bearing on my point!
73s de Tim - K7XC - DM09jh.. sk
Adapt, Overcome, Succeed!
On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 8:08 PM Gabriel Zeifman gabrielzeifman@gmail.com wrote:
This is an intriguing observation, considering satellite VUCC has been around for years. I don’t think I’ve ever heard you on one of our “repeater like” satellites?
73, Gabe AL6D/VE6NJH
On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 11:55 AM K7XC Tim Marek via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
A 5 Band VUCC award sound interesting. Would it allow existing VUCC contacts already in LOTW to be used for credit or require all New & Separate ones?
Currently the existing VUCC rules however state that Repeater Like QSOs are NOT allowed, and that means NO Satellites!
I agree with the rules as written and cant support adding Non Terrestrial contacts to a Terrestrial award!
If we allow this to happen it muddies the waters from that point on, disrespecting everyone who in the past worked their butts off to accomplish something not easy to do. The fact it was hard made the goal worth chasing. The argument its too hard and discourages others Holds No Water. If you want something bad enough you will do whats needed to get it.
I reject your proposal to include Satellite QSOs with Terrestrial QSOs and encourage others to do as well.
73s de Tim - K7XC - DM09jh... sk
Adapt, Overcome, Succeed!
On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 3:32 PM Les Rayburn les@highnoonfilm.com wrote:
John,
My proposal would allow “Satellite VUCC” to count towards 5BVUCC. The
idea
is to allow the ARRL to create the new award with minimal programming changes needed to LoTW and minimal cost to implement.
So far, this suggestion has netted over 40 replies to me in less than 12 hours. Response has been very positive. I would urge anyone who supports this effort to contact their ARRL Section Managers and let them know
about
the idea—and that you’d like to see it implemented.
In the Southeast Section, we’re lucky to have Greg Sarratt, W4OZK as our representative. Greg is active on VHF/UHF weak signal already. Need to
get
him on the satellites more though!
:-)
73,
Les Rayburn, N1LF Maylene, AL EM63nf AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
On Apr 22, 2019, at 8:11 AM, John Brier johnbrier@gmail.com wrote:
Would this proposed 5 band VUCC allow satellite and direct contacts?
On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 9:01 AM David Kerl via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@amsat.org mailto:amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
Hello Les, That should generate some incentive for more V/U/uwave activity. I
would
certainly work towards that end. Dave N9HF el99
"Back in my day" doesn't have a place in ham radio any more.
On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 10:50 PM Les Rayburn via VHF <
vhf@w6yx.stanford.edu mailto:vhf@w6yx.stanford.edu>
wrote:
Lady & Gentlemen,
Not certain if my earlier message was received. No reply from
anyone on
the distribution list. Here it is again, in case the first one was
lost in
cyberspace.
In an effort to stimulate activity on VHF/UHF bands beyond 70 CM,
I’d
like
to suggest the creation of a Five Band VUCC (5B VUCC) award that
would
closely mirror the 5 Band DXCC Award.
Successful applicants would need to achieve VUCC status on five or
more of
the VHF/UHF bands to be eligible for the larger award. A special certificate and pin could be created to honor recipients.
My feeling is that this award would encourage greater activity on
the
VHF/UHF bands, especially on bands that have less use like 222,
1296,
and
higher microwave bands. This increased activity encourages the sale
of
more
gear, helps protect our spectrum from commercial interests, and
advances
the state of the radio art.
Please let me know if you think this idea has any merit, or what I
could
do to help support the creation of the new award. As always,
grateful
for
your service to the hobby.
73,
Les Rayburn, N1LF 121 Mayfair Park Maylene, AL 35114 EM63nf AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
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