Anyone on the -bb,
So, this is the first i've read about any of this amateur radio IP stuff and i'm still digging around, learning about it. I assume this is common knowledge in the amateur radio community... but as for me, this is news!!! I just whois'd 44.192.0.1 and saw good ole amazon:
Organization: Amazon.com, Inc. (AMAZO-4)
RegDate: 2019-07-18
So it appears at least Amazon purchased part of the addresses. Garsh... If only I was born a couple decades earlier, and went to school with Hank Magnuski, et al.... (ref [HM] RFC790)... Maybe, 'my charity inc' could have inherited part of that... I mean, what a deal!!! Now, according to wikipedia and other sources the sale raised over 50 million USD!!! (ref: https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/a-civil-discussion-about-the-future... )
50 million american pesos!!!!!! Holy smokes!! ! ! ! ! !!!!! ! ! !!!!
Now, i'm not sure if that figure is correct, can anyone on the -bb verify this? Two public references appear to suggest this number. If this figure is correct, can ARDC spare another, say... several million for a launch for AMSAT? All this moping around on the -bb, pretending that the amateur radio community does not have the funding for a launch at this point, all seems reasonably ridiculous to me now... Did I miss something?
K, Joseph Armbruster KJ4JIO
On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 9:16 PM Joseph Armbruster < josepharmbruster@gmail.com> wrote:
Bruce,
Wowzers! That's a pile of money and it's kind of difficult for me to piece this together... but, whenever such a large amount of $ is involved, I always like to trace it. I'm digging through all this trying to figure out where the heck ARDC could come up with a metric (or english) pile of money like that to distribute in a grant and so-far, i've determined:
- IANA designated 44/8 for "AMPRNET Amature Radio Experiment Net", back
in the day... ref: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc790
- Via some legal (questionable?) wizardry, ARDC was able to stake a
claim to 100% of 44/8, and sell off IPs that were designated for Amateur Radio Experiment Net ref: https://www.ampr.org/wp-content/uploads/Courtesy-Notice-to-AG-Signed-ARDC.pd...
- Robert McGwier (N4HY) is on the "2020 Grants Advisory Committee" for
ARDC: ref: https://www.ampr.org/giving/
- And he's also involved with ORI:
ref: https://openresearch.institute/public/mailing-lists/ground-station/ground-st...
- ORI ends up with a massive grant!
I do admit.... this is incredible work! I have a few questions about RFC790 and the ownership of those IPs. Can you explain to everyone on the -bb, how the living heck ARDC had the legal right to ownership to all of those IPs.
One thing is quite obvious from all of this... Namely, I need to quit my job and come work with you all of you!
Joseph Armbruster KJ4JIO
On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 8:41 PM Bruce Perens via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
This is just part of a complete plan to provide for the space and ground needs of amateur radio. Thus, you can expect to see additional grants on this scale. ORI remains an AMSAT-Affiliated organization, and the participation of AMSAT and its members is always welcome.
Thanks BruceOn Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 4:04 PM Robert McGwier rwmcgwier@gmail.com wrote:
ARDC awarded ORI $500,000 to do major development on the phase 4 ground digital communications terminal. ORI has assembled a tremendous
engineering
team to do this work.
Congratulations to ORI. I was informed the check is in the mail. This
is
the largest grant ARDC has given to date. ORI was previously awarded
large
grants by the ARRL foundation and the Yasme foundation to support the
work.
73s Bob N4HY
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