The gain increase for the antenna would be deltaG = (12/4)^2 = 9, or in dB = 10Log(9) = 9.5 dB. You get this gain in Tx and again in Rx so the total gain = 19 dB. So this means that the spacecraft will need to be 32-19 = 13 dB stronger than AO-40. So perhaps the S/C antenna would be larger and maybe the Tx higher power?
Ed - KL7UW
At 08:16 PM 7/2/2008, w7lrd@comcast.net wrote:
How would my 12 foot paraclips work for this exercise? 73 Bob W7LRD
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-------------- Original message -------------- From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" glasbrenner@mindspring.com
The moon is roughly 360,000 to 400,000 km away. By comparison, AO-40 had a apogee of about 60,000km. At 2.4Ghz, that's about 16db difference
each way.
Put AO-40 at the moon, and if I'm doing this right, you'd need about 32 times the ground station antenna both coming and going to get
with a few db.
I'm gonna need a bigger rotor for sure! I'm sure smarter folks
will check my
math....
73, Drew KO4MA
----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe" To: "Andrew Glasbrenner" Cc: "Trevor" ; "AMSAT BB" Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: NASA's American Student Moon Orbiter...
what would a sample average link budget be?
Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
As far as I can recall we are pursuing both Eagle and the P4 opportunity equally, concentrating on common elements until the details are ironed out. Neither has been identified as a primary or secondary objective.
I agree a package on a lunar orbiter would be neat, but also that it is not the best use of what volunteers we have. We need more folks
to step up
to do things, AND we need to make better use of them when they do.
73, Drew KO4MA
----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor" To: "AMSAT BB" Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 4:53 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: NASA's American Student Moon Orbiter...
--- On Wed, 2/7/08, Dave hartzell wrote:
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=25839 http://asmo.arc.nasa.gov/
Wouldn't it be fun to have a transponder on this! ;-)
Fun yes, but dare I say it, a waste of precious Volunteer resources.
All lunar orbits are inherently unstable and will impact after a couple of years. The link budget requirements would not attract a mass user base.
I suspect the number of Technically Capable volunteers is already being thinly stretched in trying to provide both the primary
objective Phase-IV
Lite (funded by Federal Government dollars) and the secondary objective the Eagle HEO.
73 Trevor M5AKA
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