Well said Jeff,
I can't wait to hear your awesome daughter on the bird again James. You are a blessed Dad to have a youngster interested in Amateur Radio these days with all the outside distractions. I bet you are immensely proud of her. Keep up the good work and pretend the QRM isn't there. They will quietly go away.
Michael/KC4ZVA Sent from my iPad
On Aug 24, 2015, at 3:09 PM, Jeff Moore tnetcenter@gmail.com wrote:
Hi James,
I think it is absolutely AWESOME that you have your 9 year old daughter into the hobby! That kind of enthusiasm cant' be bought for anything!! You daughter is a great ambassador for the hobby vs the old crusty farts with the negative comments. Fortunately, they are few and far between. Hiram had a couple of different implements for dealing with likes of the old fart contingent, they would do well to review those instruments prior to making inane comments attacking 9 year olds.
Having worked a few satellites myself, I congratulate your daughter on working through the process and making contacts. Good Job!!
7 3 Jeff Moore -- KE7ACY Bend Oregon CN94
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 11:33 AM, James Lea - WX4TV james@wx4tv.com wrote:
We’re talking about a 9 year old girl who worked her tail off to learn the material and earn her Technician license. She is now studying for her General and learning Morse Code. She also likes to learn by doing. Hence, she is making a few mistakes along the way as she operates. But, she learns. I will leave it to Bob and Angus to figure out what she learned about adults like them from reading these posts. (Yes, she does read them.)
As her dad, I will call it as I see it. You’re both being bullies to a little girl who is excited about her new hobby. Way to go. I hope that you feel superior to her by setting the record straight that this wasn’t a valid contact.
She doesn’t really care about the grids or the contests or the awards. She simply likes talking to people on the radio and figuring out where her signal went. She likes to go to public places to operate because people ask questions and she gets to tell them how fun Ham Radio is. This time, the recording got covered up by someone asking a question. She is a little girl who was excited that she spoke to someone in Mexico via Ham Radio. Bob and Angus, you have dashed the excitement. Well done.
She bounced back, though… She determined on her own that if she is ever in a grid that you need, she isn’t going to give it to you. (Grids are so important, aren’t they?)
Heck, she is speaking about satellite ops at the Dayton Youth Forum next year. Maybe you might make it into her speech.
On Aug 24, 2015, at 1:08 PM, John Geiger af5cc2@gmail.com wrote:
Sked QSOs do count for awards. Done all of the time for EME and meteor scatter QSOs.
John AF5CC
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Gus gus@8p6sm.net wrote:
Bob is completely correct.
It doesn't matter how old you are, or where you're standing, or what equipment you choose to burden your hands with, or who you invite to
stand
next to you, blabbing loudly in your ear. If you didn't copy the
callsign
yourself, then you didn't complete the QSO. No relays or outside assistance are allowed. And IIRC, contacts made on SKED don't count either, for contests or awards.
I'm sorry if young miss Hope is disappointed. I certainly wouldn't want to discourage her and I doubt Bob (or anyone) does either. Nor would I want to make any interested spectator feel unwelcome, either. But facts are facts.
Ineptitude? Belittling? Really? Let's not go there.
On 08/24/2015 11:29 AM, James Lea - WX4TV wrote:
OK, Bob… I will bite. Hope, who is 9 years old and was standing on
the
beach, heard his callsign and expected that it was on the recording.
I am
so sorry that for the sake of AMSAT and Ham Radio in general that a 9
year
old wasn’t able to write down the callsign while holding two radios
and an
antenna. Since she is so inept, perhaps she should quit the hobby altogether. I look forward to meeting you face to face, so you can belittle my daughter to her face.
Once Paul confirmed the callsign, we were able to make it out on the recording.
On Aug 24, 2015, at 10:45 AM, skristof@etczone.com wrote:
Whoah! Thank you for the ruling Chief Justice Bob.
Next time we want to scare kids away from ham radio, we'll be sure to give you a call.
Did you read the part that they had the contact, but a spectator
covered
the rest of the call sign on the recording by asking a question?
What should they have done? Tell the spectator to "shut up, I'm doing ham radio!"? Great PR for the hobby.
Steve AI9IN
On 2015-08-24 10:25, KO6TZ Bob wrote:
Basic concept....
If YOU did not copy the call sign, then YOU did not make the contact
!!!
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