I remember that a few years ago with some other bird Like Ande or something like that?
Joe WB9SBD
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On 8/7/2011 2:47 AM, Jeff Yanko wrote:
If anything, maybe this calls for another Chicken Little Contest to see who can come the closest to predicting re-entry.
73,
Jeff WB3JFS
----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Karn"karn@philkarn.net To: "James"kb7tbt@gmail.com Cc:amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 12:34 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Life Expectancy ARISat-1
On 8/6/11 8:55 PM, James wrote:
Thank you for your informative contribution..
Anyone with a real answer?
Well, an educated guess can be made by looking at a plot of ISS altitude vs time:
http://www.heavens-above.com/IssHeight.aspx
The ISS is periodically reboosted, accounting for the sudden jumps in this sawtooth-like graph. Obviously ARISSat-1 won't be reboosted, so if you extrapolate the downward-sloping parts of the graph you can get a rough idea of what will happen.
The ISS orbital decay rate varies with changes in upper atmospheric density with solar activity, but also because of changes in its attitude and the operation of the solar panels.
The orbital decay rate also depends on qthe ballistic coefficient of the object. This has units of mass divided by area -- the mass of the object divided by the cross-sectional area it presents in its direction of flight. The larger the ballistic coefficient, the less its deceleration from drag as it flies through the thin upper atmosphere.
The ISS probably has a larger ballistic coefficient than any other satellite simply because it's so huge. The volume of most objects increases as the cube of the size while the cross-sectional area increases with the square. Since mass is usually a function of volume, a large object will generally have a higher ballistic coefficient and last longer in a given orbit than a small object.
Obviously there are exceptions to the "large lives longer" rule such as the "Echo" balloons. The actual ballistic coefficient for any given satellite has to be computed from its actual mass and dimensions and its orientation relative to its velocity vector. The ISS is a huge satellite, but it also has lightweight solar wings that greatly increase its cross-sectional area without increasing its mass very much, so they decrease its ballistic coefficient somewhat.
ARISSat-1 is far smaller than the ISS, but it is fairly heavy for its size and it lacks large solar wings that create a lot of drag. This will reduce its decay rate, but it will still probably decay more quickly than the ISS.
It was tossed out the back of the ISS against the velocity vector, and that immediately put it in a lower energy orbit with a higher mean motion. But any further increase in mean motion will be due to orbital decay, and from that we should be able to estimate its ballistic coefficient and how it will likely behave in the future. Determining an exact lifetime would be difficult because of the difficulty of predicting solar activity, but a good estimate can probably be made.
--Phil
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