Just a suggestion to all:
I send all updates (“bulletin format” elements and “bare elements”) in plain text format in order to eliminate any unseen “formatting codes” from the text.
If you are having issues loading the TLE, it might be a good idea to handle the TLE file only with Notepad (with word wrap off).
This will eliminate any hidden format code issues as best we can.
From: jeff griffin <kb2mjeff@att.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2022 11:40
To: ray.hoad@mypbmail.com; 'Paul Stoetzer' <n8hm@arrl.net>; 'Brian Clark' <decompudoc@gmail.com>
Cc: 'AMSAT -BB' <amsat-bb@amsat.org>
Subject: Re: [AMSAT-BB] Re: AMSAT Keplerian data
Hi Ray. I always ran nasa.all , or at least for the last few years at this location. So there was a change or an error in the nasa.all file that several long time uses have noticed in the last few days. I switched over to nasabare, but it would be a good idea to send out a notice to let people know if the format of any of the kep files are being changed...
73 Jeff kb2m
On 8/20/2022 11:57 AM, ray.hoad@mypbmail.com wrote:
Use the ”bare elements” file. The “bare elements” are just that bare elements.
Paul is correct the “bulletin format elements” should not be a problem ether. Bhut, they are designed for bulletin boards systems.
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@arrl.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2022 10:21
To: Brian Clark <decompudoc@gmail.com>
Cc: jeff griffin <kb2mjeff@att.net>; AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@amsat.org>
Subject: Re: [AMSAT-BB] Re: AMSAT Keplerian data
Hmm...it looks like extra LFs have been added to the file. NASA.ALL has always included the headers, so that won't cause SatPC32 any issues.
Try using http://www.amsat.org/tle/current/nasabare.txt until the file can be corrected
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Sat, Aug 20, 2022 at 11:17 AM Brian Clark <decompudoc@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Jeff,
I noticed that as well.
If you open the path for the data, there you will notice new data at the top above the actual kep data, and I believe that this data is confusing SatPC32
SB KEPS @ AMSAT $ORB22230.N
2Line Orbital Elements 22230.AMSAT
HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR AMATEUR SATELLITES IN NASA FORMAT
FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX August 18, 2022
BID: ORB22230.N
DECODE 2-LINE ELSETS WITH THE FOLLOWING KEY:
1 AAAAAU 00 0 0 BBBBB.BBBBBBBB .CCCCCCCC 00000-0 00000-0 0 DDDZ
2 AAAAA EEE.EEEE FFF.FFFF GGGGGGG HHH.HHHH III.IIII JJ.JJJJJJJJKKKKKZ
KEY: A-CATALOGNUM B-EPOCHTIME C-DECAY D-ELSETNUM E-INCLINATION F-RAAN
G-ECCENTRICITY H-ARGPERIGEE I-MNANOM J-MNMOTION K-ORBITNUM Z-CHECKSUM
TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT
AO-07
1 07530U 74089B 22230.68884579 -.00000029 00000-0 10934-3 0 9999
2 07530 101.9094 210.7662 0011866 283.7903 249.4868 12.53656352185507
73's de KF6FES
Brian,
On Sat, Aug 20, 2022, 8:08 AM jeff griffin <kb2mjeff@att.net> wrote:
Several of us that talk on the linear birds in the morning have noticed
that SatPC32's Satellites, Update Keps, selected keps file, routine
returns either a 'No Keplerian data found!' or a 'Download failed'
error. I had to manually copy and paste the kep data from the AMSAT site
to get a fresh set. I tried this on two different PC's here. As I
haven't updated any of my s/w on this end I'm assuming this is an issue
on the AMSAT kep site. Anyone know what's going on here ?
73 Jeff kb2m
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