On Mon, June 21, 2010 20:01, Eric Knaps, ON4HF wrote:
Hi there,
Hi Eric,
Do you really think that the European alligators will wait for 3 seconds?
I rest my case :))
Perhaps when the crocodiles have read this, things wil change?
Some self-reflection would be appropriate ...
73 Jan PE0SAT
Op 21/06/2010 16:04, Jan-Albert Koekemoer schreef:
Hello
After much delay we are now in a position to re-activate the SA-AMSAT payload schedules on a regular basis again!
During the downtime we conducted several experiments in order to investigate possible alternatives for the "cut-off" problem experienced by many at the end of last year / beginning of this year. The cut-off is caused by SW running on piggyback electronics that continues to gate the received audio onto the transmitter for about 3s after a specific ground transmission has ended, whereafter the received audio is cut off. The SW then waits for the next ground transmission with a valid "transponder" tone embedded, before gating the audio onto the transmitter again. So if a second transmission starts within the 3s "tail" period, it will be cut off when the 3s expires. Listen to this mp3 recording as an example: http://tinyurl.com/38vvg3o
Unfortunately the piggyback electronics does not have reprogramming functionality, so we are not able to change the SW. We did however manage to implement a mechanism on the satellite transponder (used by the piggyback) that should be of some assistance when using the payload: the PTT of the transmitter now STAYS ON for the duration of the payload activation (i.e. 15 min), regardless of a valid "transponder" tone received. Note that this does not get rid of the "cut-off" problem, nor of the requirement to embed a valid tone when you want to use the payload - see detailed explanation below.
The following example depicts the ideal usage scenario of the payload:
As the satellite comes over the horizon, an unmodulated carrier("quieting") will be received by all on UHF
Person A starts to transmit on VHF (with valid "transponding"tone embedded in the transmission) and the transmission is relayed on UHF
When Person A releases his/her PTT, the satellite will continueto transmit what it is receiving (usually this will be "noise") for a further ±3s. Nobody should start to transmit during this time!
At the end of the ±3s period, everybody will again hear theunmodulated carrier.
NB: only when this unmodulated carrier is heard should Person Bstart to transmit. Listen to this mp3 recording as an example of valid usage: http://tinyurl.com/32rjbxm
I suppose this will take some getting use to - at least the system has a built-in "punishment" mechanism for the impatient! ;-)
Please refer to previous posts on general voice quality optimization when using the SA-AMSAT payload on SO-67.
I will request Gladys Magagula at the Satellite Application Centre to obtain regular schedules from the regional coordinators as soon as possible. We will start off with day passes only, transmit on 2.5W and see how things go.
Enjoy!