Les, good advice. Speaking western grids Patrick WD9EWK will be on the DM12/DM22 grid boundary today.73Rick Tejera (K7TEJ)Saguaro Astronomy ClubWww.saguaroastro.orgThunderbird Astronomy ClubWww.w7tbc.org -------- Original message --------From: Les Rayburn les@highnoonfilm.com Date: 2/16/19 21:30 (GMT-07:00) To: John Brier johnbrier@gmail.com Cc: Work-Sat@groups.io, AMSAT BB amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FM Birds, New Grids, and Chaos Those are good suggestions. I try to write down calls and grid squares by “reading the mail” on other QSO’s. Then I call that specific station. I rarely (if ever) just throw out my call. Sometimes when I’m up late at night I’ll do that, or even call CQ but only when the bird is dead quiet. I’ve got a TH-D72A, and an ELK antenna configured for portable operation. Just waiting on warm and dry days to give it a try from the backyard. This winter has been one of the wettest on record here. Do wish more operators would be more considerate when the bird is busy. My “wish list” would include: Make one QSO, then just monitor the rest of the pass—unless someone calls you. Check Twitter to see if anyone is activating a rare grid. If so, let them control the flow of contacts on the bird. This is especially true of Western grids. Often the pass is very short for those grids, and stations in the East have a limited time to work them. But the bird is often filled with Eastern stations working other Eastern stations during the whole pass. Resist turning up the power to “muscle” your way in. During one pass earlier this evening, I listened to a single QRO station make 5 or 6 contacts during a very crowded pass—simply by muscling other stations, talking over other operators, etc. We clearly need more FM birds because the demand is very high. Meanwhile a lot of the linear satellites are empty or nearly so. 73,Les Rayburn, N1LFMaylene, AL EM63nfAMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member_______________________________________________Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum availableto all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressedare solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb