Dave,
I'm pretty sure people have gotten DXCC via LEO sats, or for certain many ops have more than a "handful".
You do know you could work portable? Go to the east coast work a ton of EU, then come over to the west coast pick up HI/JAPAN/RUSSIA/AK, then head south to Florida and work all the SA countries, and islands to your heart's content. However, if you plan on sitting in a shack your limiting yourself.
But let's say you don't wanna work portable...Just for fun, I drew a circle with a 8,000km radius from EN53qb, and I can tell you there is more than 100 DX in that circle.
And really would SAT DXCC via a well placed GEO SAT be that fun or exciting? You would just sit there and make contacts all day, and the challenge/fun would be sorta just be gone, IMO.
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 9:43 AM David J. Schmocker via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
Everyone: Thank you; the tone of my email asked for this.
I am not a whining proponent. Let me end this thread just as abruptly as I started it.
I realize one can work a handful of DX with LEO. Given a goal of DXCC, the situations looks very different (hence the HEO interest). Of course I know about the GOLF efforts.
I failed to communicate my interest is DXCC via satellites. This is a stretch (from EN53qb) without HEO or perhaps well-placed GEO. The idea previously fronted to reach out to the Elon Musks, etc. of the world seems most prudent.
very 73,
Dave KJ9I
On 6/18/20 10:55 AM, egon via AMSAT-BB wrote:
From Alberta Canada I have worked 23 country's on LEO satellites and that's not counting AO40,
Egon VE6EGN/SA3EGN -----Original Message----- From: KI7UNJ Tucker via AMSAT-BB Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 8:59 AM To: David J. Schmocker Cc: AMSAT BB Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] need HEO .. please..
David,
"Forgive me, for I am but a humble DXer. How is DXing possible without HEO?"
It's very possible to work a DX with just the LEO sats we have now, heck I'm in Oregon and have managed to work Spain and many other countries in that area. The east coast ops are able to work DEEP into the EU and even able to work EU with just FM on AO-91. 2M0SQL (Whom I have worked via LEO) is in Scotland is able to work all the way to the west coast of US via RS-44/AO-7 with passes almost daily, and yes those are LEO sats.
People who say "working DX isn't possible with LEO" need to take a look at orbits, and probably get our of their comfort zone, you won't get much DX on an overhead pass... you need to get out and work those 1* passes or venture out more and get up on a hill and work a negative degree pass. LEO DX is 100% possible!
Sadly, many are just complaining instead of using what we have and or donating. Many of said complainers have no concept of the design/skills/time/money/effort/programming/de-orbital requirements they think its just wham bam the sat is in space.
Read more about what AMSAT is doing to go higher, and DONATE all on this page!
https://www.amsat.org/greater-orbit-larger-footprint-an-introduction-to-the-...
MEO or an HEO satellite sounds great and I can't wait, it would be fun and allow me to work many more DX.
/R KI7UNJ
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 4:57 AM David J. Schmocker via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
Everyone: My thoughts are in full alignment with Joe's view.. "Why no HEO?" Without HEO, my interest in satellites is.. zero.
Forgive me, for I am but a humble DXer. How is DXing possible without HEO?
My donations start and increase in proportion to the satellite orbital height.
very 73,
Dave KJ9I
On 6/17/20 5:08 PM, Joe Leikhim via AMSAT-BB wrote:
Zach; As a long time member of AMSAT, I can assure you I did donate for the AO-40 project. But since that time there have been no significant HEO projects. LEO and primarily FM oriented satellites have been the rule. Year after year, the focus has been on these short term, low earth projects or ARISS.
Who cares if an HEO requires COTS space rated modules to be considered a payload? There is plenty of work to be done on the ground building an earth station.
Paul; Why no outreach to the industry. Elon Musk? A free AMSAT membership, some Honorary AMSAT Knighthood? Anybody ever give him a call?
I know part of this is ITAR and the US basically screwing ourselves by embargoing technology.
"Donate early, donate often.
- No amateur-built hardware on the satellite -- Yes, specifying and
overseeing development takes a LOT of work. I do this for my day job, not satellites, but just as complex. However, designing, building, testing, and deploying amateur-built hardware is what I feel AMSAT is all about. --- Zach N0ZGO"
"There are many political and economic factors that made the partnership with AMSAT-DL possible. "
"the most senior political official we've had who was active in amateur radio was Sen. Barry Goldwater. Currently, Rep. Greg Walden is the only amateur radio operator I'm aware of in high levels of government and he's retiring when his term ends in January.
73,
Paul Stoetzer, N8HM Executive Vice President AMSAT"
I really just hear excuses when others ask the same question, why
no > HEO?
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