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* I am only giving my humble opinion here, but to answer your question of why I want to use HRD over SatPC32. After using both, my conclusions are that they are not even in the same class."* Hi Michael,
You are correct and your are also wrong, with due respect. "*They are not even in the same class*" *Yes, and SatPC32 delivers where HRD is a failure!* If you truly believe that HRD is "*one stop full integrated software suite for everything a ham could ever need*" you might want to check the forums and the constant need for fixes. Having a shiny user interface does nothing if things don't work. SatPC32 works, it doesn't need fixes, it gets regular updates, that's what is important. My request to Erich (the author) for an additional function gets a positive response within days!!!!! SatPC32 is simple (you call it clunky) and the functionality is right on. It does what it promises and even better. It is fully supported, free upgrades, supports AMSAT and yes, it is a satellite tracking radio and rotor control program that simply works! That's all. HRD gives you a shiny GUI and fails horrible on the satellite function, just to mention one failure....
Rest my case,
73 Stefan, VE4NSA
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Mvivona via AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org wrote:
Paul, I am only giving my humble opinion here, but to answer your question of why I want to use HRD over SatPC32. After using both, my conclusions are that they are not even in the same class.
HRD is a one stop full integrated software suite for everything a ham could ever need. Logbook with synchronized web call lookup, digital mode module, satellite module, mapping that visually shows all your logbook contacts, rig control, remote access, rotor control, dual radio sync, built in solar cycle progression, DX cluster window, built in calendar, fully configurable user layouts throughout the entire suite.
SatPC32 is a satellite tracking program that has rig control via the sat window, and rotor control. It to me is quite clunky and has that old timey DOS look and feel.
Please, I don't want this to turn into a pi$$ing match. I am just trying to be as true to myself as I can. Me being a life long systems administrator and programmer have watched the upward progression of HRD over the years and have been in awe with everything Simon has accomplished. If what I'm hearing is that I just have to use SatPC32 for linear birds, then so be it. At the same time I am also hearing from many users that they only use SatPC32 or HRD just to track, but actually run their rigs by hand for the Doppler offset. So, maybe it's a moot point, I don't know?
I really want to thank you guys for all your input in making me a better operator.
Michael Vivona KC4ZVA Sent from my iPad
On Jun 24, 2015, at 5:14 PM, Paul Stoetzer n8hm@arrl.net wrote:
Even if you were to test it at AES, I doubt they have adequate antennas (and, even more importantly, feedline) set up for decent satellite reception, so it may not make a good test.
May I ask why you are so eager to use HRD for this purpose? An IC-9100 is probably the best satellite transceiver on the market and many hams use them very successfully as part of a fully computer controlled satellite station - with SatPC32.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner glasbrenner@mindspring.com wrote:
Repeated over a few high elevation passes, actually working stations. It
may work for you.
Don't get me wrong, I like HRD. I used it last night with my IC-910 to
work 2m Eskip remotely while out of town. However, I don't know a single active transponder op that uses it successfully. I invite them to step forward and speak up.
Myself, the response from HRD you got would give me significant pause.
On the other hand the author of SatPC32 is an active participant here, and has provided outstanding, even custom, support.
73, Drew KO4MA
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On Jun 24, 2015, at 4:55 PM, Mvivona Mvivona@yahoo.com wrote:
Thanks Andrew, OK, so the test would be for me to wait for a pass of an SSB bird like
FO-29. Let HRD take control of the transceiver, manually override till I hear my return. Then let HRD take over and see if it holds the Doppler offset lock for the entire pass. Is that the test Andrew?
Michael Vivona Sent from my iPad
On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:17 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner <
glasbrenner@mindspring.com> wrote:
In my case, from hearing a dozen+ ops try it on the air. The tuning
does not update the frequencies fast enough for use on SSB. In every case I've been involved with, switching to SatPC32 solved the problem. $45 for SatPC32 will make that $2500 radio sing on the transponders.
73, Drew KO4MA
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On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:00 PM, Mvivona via AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org
wrote:
I'm confused. How do you know it doesn't work if you don't know what
the issue is? Just sayin'.
Michael Vivona Sent from my iPad
On Jun 24, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Paul Stoetzer n8hm@arrl.net wrote:
The automatic Doppler control does not work properly. I've never tried it, so I'm not sure what the actual issue is.
SatPC32 is the way to go for computer control on the linear
transponders.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando) michael.vivona@wftv.com wrote:
I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and
linear birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds. Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it.
I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my
laptop to one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the actual problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person.
I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in
advance for anyone that wants to jump in on this.
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