One thought is to use expended upper stages as platforms. Robert WB5MZO
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On Sep 18, 2013, at 11:04 PM, "Tom J. Gentry" t.gentry@verizon.net wrote:
While the frustration evidenced in this digest is understandable, perhaps unknown to us AMSAT are already trying to innovate an alternative to Highly Elliptical Orbit. Certainly a longer lived orbit would be desirable and a bird lighter that a P3 sat would perhaps find a cheap ride easier but let us rethink our path to get to where we want to be. As sure as E=mc^2, Upmass=$$$$$$$. Even though we started out as hitch hikers to the galaxy, AMSAT has acquired a significant data base of communications technology that we will be able to use to get more rides as soon as ITAR gets lifted off our neck and we can find more programs that can use the AMSAT communications expertise.
How about a series of cube sats that are placed high enough (or could be raised to that orbit) to last for awhile? How about we use other people's bird's after they are through with their experiments and move them up to longer lasting orbits and reconfigure the comm system (the one we built for them) to an amateur radio configuration. If each one of these MEO cube sats lasts long enough to overlap, pretty soon you have a constellation.
I probably will not live to see it complete but that is no reason not to start. The key is to get long lasting orbits with small sats and lots of them.
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- Re: so long (n0jy)
- Re: so long (Iain Young, G7III)
- Re: so long (Yanko Yankov)
- Re: so long (Personal)
- Re: so long (Patrick Green)
- Re: so long (Bob- W7LRD)
- Re: so long (Adrian Engele)
- Re: so long (i8cvs)
- Re: so long (Stefan Wagener)
- Re: so long (Gus)
- Re: so long (John Spasojevich)
- Re: so long (Greg D)
- Re: Space Weather Affect on Satellites (MLengruesser@aol.com)
- Re: so long, try EME (MM)
Message: 1 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 14:19:36 -0500 From: n0jy n0jy@n0jy.org To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: so long Message-ID: 5238AB48.8050507@n0jy.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Dang. Now what are we going to do?
On 9/17/2013 1:58 PM, John Becker wrote:
I have decided to leave the list till something changes with this FM only satellite attitude only changes. That was the reason for me as well as other joining AMSAT in the first place.
Please inform me if anything such as a replacement for AO 40 happens.
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Message: 2 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 20:45:52 +0100 From: "Iain Young, G7III" g7iii@g7iii.net To: n0jy n0jy@n0jy.org Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: so long Message-ID: 5238B170.6050409@g7iii.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
On 17/09/13 20:19, n0jy wrote:
Dang. Now what are we going to do?
Eat the fish left behind ? :)
73s
Iain
Message: 3 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 14:46:45 -0500 From: Yanko Yankov samy_b1@shell4you.net To: n0jy n0jy@n0jy.org, amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: so long Message-ID: 6902cb30-2291-4cfa-a0b3-1b9f6b7f7971@email.android.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
I'll tell you what I will do. I'll make me a cup of coffee.
Yanko,NX9G
n0jy n0jy@n0jy.org wrote:
Dang. Now what are we going to do?
On 9/17/2013 1:58 PM, John Becker wrote:
I have decided to leave the list till something changes with this FM only satellite attitude only changes. That was the reason for me as well as other joining AMSAT in the first place.
Please inform me if anything such as a replacement for AO 40 happens.
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Message: 4 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 15:12:00 -0500 From: Personal johnag9d@gmail.com To: John Becker w0jab@big-river.net Cc: "amsat-bb@amsat.org" amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: so long Message-ID: 45B86821-7D94-4AFB-A36E-DCF926BABA56@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
How will we call you when the ice forms over hell or how do we send a signal 6 feet underground?
If you want an AO 40 bird so bad, then make a couple million dollars or win the lottery and send it to AMSAT or find a way to help the Germans launch P3D...it's been sitting around.
Nah...bitching and quitting...that's the way to get it done..thanks for the example.
John AG9D
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On Sep 17, 2013, at 1:58 PM, John Becker w0jab@big-river.net wrote:
I have decided to leave the list till something changes with this FM only satellite attitude only changes. That was the reason for me as well as other joining AMSAT in the first place.
Please inform me if anything such as a replacement for AO 40 happens.
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Message: 5 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 16:14:01 -0400 From: Patrick Green pagreen@gmail.com To: Amsat BB amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: so long Message-ID: CAAhWhXTv22esZdOZf160MAtj=o4TGwELOt2BpKMHH5zoYM36hw@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Isn't this the reason why hams end up on HF? Any mode that requires infrastructure to operate is going to be this way. I'm sure you've experienced this on repeaters if you used them. Perhaps we need a kickstarter for the launch of P3E.
73
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:58 PM, John Becker w0jab@big-river.net wrote:
I have decided to leave the list till something changes with this FM only satellite attitude only changes. That was the reason for me as well as other joining AMSAT in the first place.
Please inform me if anything such as a replacement for AO 40 happens.
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Message: 6 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 20:25:48 +0000 (UTC) From: Bob- W7LRD w7lrd@comcast.net To: Personal johnag9d@gmail.com Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: so long Message-ID: 589413027.1807382.1379449548845.JavaMail.root@sz0209a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net
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the difficult we do immediately, the impossible takes a little longer! 73 Bob W7LRD
----- Original Message ----- From: "Personal" johnag9d@gmail.com To: "John Becker" w0jab@big-river.net Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 1:12:00 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: so long
How will we call you when the ice forms over hell or how do we send a signal 6 feet underground?
If you want an AO 40 bird so bad, then make a couple million dollars or win the lottery and send it to AMSAT or find a way to help the Germans launch P3D...it's been sitting around.
Nah...bitching and quitting...that's the way to get it done..thanks for the example.
John AG9D
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On Sep 17, 2013, at 1:58 PM, John Becker w0jab@big-river.net wrote:
I have decided to leave the list till something changes with this FM only satellite attitude only changes. That was the reason for me as well as other joining AMSAT in the first place.
Please inform me if anything such as a replacement for AO 40 happens.
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Message: 7 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 13:53:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Adrian Engele aa5uk@yahoo.com To: Patrick Green pagreen@gmail.com, Amsat BB amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: so long Message-ID: 1379451181.79114.YahooMailNeo@web121001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Like this Kickstarter project which was underfunded : http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/597141632/cat-a-thruster-for-interplanet...
We hope.
73, Adrian AA5UK
From: Patrick Green pagreen@gmail.com To: Amsat BB amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 3:14 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: so long
Isn't this the reason why hams end up on HF?? Any mode that requires infrastructure to operate is going to be this way.? I'm sure you've experienced this on repeaters if you used them.? Perhaps we need a kickstarter for the launch of P3E.
73
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:58 PM, John Becker w0jab@big-river.net wrote:
I have decided to leave the list till something changes with this FM only satellite attitude only changes. That was the reason for me as well as other joining AMSAT in the first place.
Please inform me if anything such as a replacement for AO 40 happens.
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Message: 8 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 01:02:52 +0200 From: "i8cvs" domenico.i8cvs@tin.it To: "John Becker" w0jab@big-river.net, "Amsat - BBs" amsat-bb@amsat.org, "Martha" martha@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: so long Message-ID: 000a01ceb3fa$0cb44620$0401a8c0@i8cvs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
----- Original Message ----- From: "John Becker" w0jab@big-river.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 8:58 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] so long
I have decided to leave the list till something changes with this FM only satellite attitude only changes. That was the reason for me as well as other joining AMSAT in the first place.
Please inform me if anything such as a replacement for AO 40 happens.
John
Hi John,W0JAB
I was AMSAT member numbar 798 since OSCAR-6 but I decided to live my membership after AO40 died because AMSAT changed his policy with only FM satellites.
I remember that OSCAR-10,OSCAR13 and AO40 where called "the satellites for all" and I invested a lot of money for equipments and antennas dedicated for HEO satellites for nothing in the near future.
In my opinion the satellite operation is not only an activity to collect grids but it is mostly experimentation in the VHF/UHF/SHF and particularly into microwave as it was with AO40 Mode-S/K and it was very nice until lasted.
As soon AMSAT-NA will work or cooperate with AMSAT-DL to built a new HEO satellite I will call Martha and I will pay all my old duties to cover my previous not covered years of membership.
By the way I am not against AMSAT-NA because I understand the ITAR and during the last 10 years I have cooperate to write many technical articles for the AMSAT Journal without any money reward.
If Martha says that the actual AMSAT members are in the order of 3,000. and if Les Rayburn, N1LF claim to be member of AMSAT #38965 it means that in the last 10 years many members abandoned AMSAT because of no future with no HEO satellites and only the FM LEO cubesat for no two ways communications between continents was not a satisfactory task.
Many years ago early in 1972 I joined AMSAT because they promised us to communicate worlwide much better than using the HF but things changed and our antennas are becaming rusty over the roof for very small or for nothing........Sorry !
73" de i8CVS Domenico
Message: 9 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 19:27:37 -0500 From: Stefan Wagener wageners@gmail.com To: i8cvs domenico.i8cvs@tin.it Cc: Amsat - BBs amsat-bb@amsat.org, John Becker w0jab@big-river.net Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: so long Message-ID: CAKu8kHDSxQNmagn=V4FFNvXJu6060Bd1-u5VX1EmubRPcq6BDw@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Hi Domenico,
I am not sure if I understand your post:
"As soon AMSAT-NA will work or cooperate with AMSAT-DL to built a new HEO satellite I will call Martha and I will pay all my old duties to cover my previous not covered years of membership."
As a matter of fact we don't need a new HEO, we have one or more accurate AMSAT-DL has one. It is called Phase 3E! What we need is $10million+ to fly it.
"during the last 10 years I have cooperate to write many technical articles for the AMSAT Journal without any money reward."
Well, many folks volunteer and work hard and no, we actually pay to volunteer and help and no, we don't expect to get paid!
So, how about you help AMSAT-NA, AMSAT-DL and AMSAT-IT in their efforts to find a potential source of money to make that satellite fly.
To quote Clayton (W5PFG) from an earlier post:
"Some of the loudest whining voices are from the non-voting community. I've observed this behavior in civic organizations, technical societies, fraternities, etc. Usually these are the same people who gripe about how an organization spends its money though the complainer never donates a dime."
Rest my case,
Stefan VE4NSA
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:02 PM, i8cvs domenico.i8cvs@tin.it wrote:
----- Original Message ----- From: "John Becker" w0jab@big-river.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 8:58 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] so long
I have decided to leave the list till something changes with this FM only satellite attitude only changes. That was the reason for me as well as other joining AMSAT in the first place.
Please inform me if anything such as a replacement for AO 40 happens.
John
Hi John,W0JAB
I was AMSAT member numbar 798 since OSCAR-6 but I decided to live my membership after AO40 died because AMSAT changed his policy with only FM satellites.
I remember that OSCAR-10,OSCAR13 and AO40 where called "the satellites for all" and I invested a lot of money for equipments and antennas dedicated for HEO satellites for nothing in the near future.
In my opinion the satellite operation is not only an activity to collect grids but it is mostly experimentation in the VHF/UHF/SHF and particularly into microwave as it was with AO40 Mode-S/K and it was very nice until lasted.
As soon AMSAT-NA will work or cooperate with AMSAT-DL to built a new HEO satellite I will call Martha and I will pay all my old duties to cover my previous not covered years of membership.
By the way I am not against AMSAT-NA because I understand the ITAR and during the last 10 years I have cooperate to write many technical articles for the AMSAT Journal without any money reward.
If Martha says that the actual AMSAT members are in the order of 3,000. and if Les Rayburn, N1LF claim to be member of AMSAT #38965 it means that in the last 10 years many members abandoned AMSAT because of no future with no HEO satellites and only the FM LEO cubesat for no two ways communications between continents was not a satisfactory task.
Many years ago early in 1972 I joined AMSAT because they promised us to communicate worlwide much better than using the HF but things changed and our antennas are becaming rusty over the roof for very small or for nothing........Sorry !
73" de i8CVS Domenico
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Message: 10 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 15:17:47 -0400 From: Gus amcleod@caribsurf.com To: John Becker w0jab@big-river.net Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: so long Message-ID: 5238AADB.6090201@anjo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
John,
I too pine for the HEO birds.
I have little interest in single-channel FM-only satellites
But!
- LEO birds are better than no birds at all. The early OSCARS were all
LEO and without the learning curve they provided, we would probably never have launched AO-10 and AO-13. The challenges nowadays may be different (financial rather than technological) but in time we will hopefully overcome them.
- From what I gather simply by reading this list, the majority of
transponders flying are linear (NOT single-channel FM) and the same is true for the majority of transponders in the pipe.
I respect your decision to drop out of the list and wish you well.
Regards...
-- 73, de Gus 8P6SM Barbados, the easternmost isle.
On 09/17/2013 02:58 PM, John Becker wrote:
I have decided to leave the list till something changes with this FM only satellite attitude only changes. That was the reason for me as well as other joining AMSAT in the first place.
Please inform me if anything such as a replacement for AO 40 happens.
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Message: 11 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 21:23:59 -0500 From: John Spasojevich johnag9d@gmail.com To: Stefan Wagener wageners@gmail.com Cc: Amsat - BBs amsat-bb@amsat.org, John Becker w0jab@big-river.net Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: so long Message-ID: CA+qbou4F6hDXcCpJ61zO4m2XwXdKQoZ3WS0JnAVFzSbPrVvycA@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Stefan, I second the comments .
I brace myself every time I go to a hamfest to represent AMSAT. I would say I spend 75% of my time getting told that we are a bunch of morons and how the person complaining used to be a member but will never join again because we don't have a HEO bird. I spend time, politely too, with them explaining the world has changed in terms of launch cost and ask them if they have any ideas on how we can raise the money, that usually sends them on their way.
I came to a great revelation this year looking back on my time as a club president, secretary and one of the 10% that actually does something other than complain and came to the conclusion that 75% of the rank and file hams want to open a box, sit in a chair, plug it in and yak in a microphone and complain. The other 25% are involved in experimentation, construction, education and pushing the service forward.
The last time I checked, moaning and complaining to another ham who does nothing but complain doesn't get anything done. I should think that if there was anyone reading this mail service that had $10M to spare, they would have bought the launch by now. But go ahead and keep crying to the same group, maybe there's a recent lottery winner here.
John AG9D
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Stefan Wagener wageners@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Domenico,
I am not sure if I understand your post:
"As soon AMSAT-NA will work or cooperate with AMSAT-DL to built a new HEO satellite I will call Martha and I will pay all my old duties to cover my previous not covered years of membership."
As a matter of fact we don't need a new HEO, we have one or more accurate AMSAT-DL has one. It is called Phase 3E! What we need is $10million+ to fly it.
"during the last 10 years I have cooperate to write many technical articles for the AMSAT Journal without any money reward."
Well, many folks volunteer and work hard and no, we actually pay to volunteer and help and no, we don't expect to get paid!
So, how about you help AMSAT-NA, AMSAT-DL and AMSAT-IT in their efforts to find a potential source of money to make that satellite fly.
To quote Clayton (W5PFG) from an earlier post:
"Some of the loudest whining voices are from the non-voting community. I've observed this behavior in civic organizations, technical societies, fraternities, etc. Usually these are the same people who gripe about how an organization spends its money though the complainer never donates a dime."
Rest my case,
Stefan VE4NSA
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:02 PM, i8cvs domenico.i8cvs@tin.it wrote:
----- Original Message ----- From: "John Becker" w0jab@big-river.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 8:58 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] so long
I have decided to leave the list till something changes with this FM only satellite attitude only changes. That was the reason for me as well as other joining AMSAT in the first place.
Please inform me if anything such as a replacement for AO 40 happens.
John
Hi John,W0JAB
I was AMSAT member numbar 798 since OSCAR-6 but I decided to live my membership after AO40 died because AMSAT changed his policy with only FM satellites.
I remember that OSCAR-10,OSCAR13 and AO40 where called "the satellites for all" and I invested a lot of money for equipments and antennas dedicated for HEO satellites for nothing in the near future.
In my opinion the satellite operation is not only an activity to collect grids but it is mostly experimentation in the VHF/UHF/SHF and particularly into microwave as it was with AO40 Mode-S/K and it was very nice until lasted.
As soon AMSAT-NA will work or cooperate with AMSAT-DL to built a new HEO satellite I will call Martha and I will pay all my old duties to cover my previous not covered years of membership.
By the way I am not against AMSAT-NA because I understand the ITAR and during the last 10 years I have cooperate to write many technical articles for the AMSAT Journal without any money reward.
If Martha says that the actual AMSAT members are in the order of 3,000. and if Les Rayburn, N1LF claim to be member of AMSAT #38965 it means that in the last 10 years many members abandoned AMSAT because of no future with no HEO satellites and only the FM LEO cubesat for no two ways communications between continents was not a satisfactory task.
Many years ago early in 1972 I joined AMSAT because they promised us to communicate worlwide much better than using the HF but things changed and our antennas are becaming rusty over the roof for very small or for nothing........Sorry !
73" de i8CVS Domenico
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Message: 12 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 21:00:34 -0700 From: Greg D ko6th.greg@gmail.com To: i8cvs domenico.i8cvs@tin.it Cc: Amsat BB AMSAT-BB@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: so long Message-ID: 52392562.5050007@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
I made my first satellite contact in 1993, a year after I was first licensed. That first contact was due to a lot of elmering by Walt, KA6VNU, and the skill of Mel, KW7E, on the other end of the contact. Since then I have made countless contacts on my own, elmered others through their first contacts, and learned something from each and every one. New puzzles were answered by the many generous and knowledgeable participants in this bulletin board, including you. I've had an incredible experience, and it's not over yet.
I hardly call that "nothing".
Greg KO6TH
i8cvs wrote:
Many years ago early in 1972 I joined AMSAT because they promised us to communicate worlwide much better than using the HF but things changed and our antennas are becaming rusty over the roof for very small or for nothing........Sorry !
Message: 13 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 08:43:02 -0400 (EDT) From: MLengruesser@aol.com To: les@highnoonfilm.com, amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Space Weather Affect on Satellites Message-ID: 25af8.1712edd.3f6af9d6@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
Hi Les,.
I know this and I think we do a good job of 365/7/24 with our antenna in Bochum. We receive and deliver realtime raw data to NASA / NOAA for the Stereo A / B project Look on the following webpages http://amsat-dl.org/index.php/news-mainmenu-97/194-stereo-turbo-amsateng http://stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov/beacon/beacon_coverage.shtml http://stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov/ http://stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov/index.shtml
vy 73,
Michael R. Lengruesser, DD5ER
AMSAT-DL e.V. -- International Satellites for Communication, Science and Education -- mlengruesser@amsat-dl.org http://www.amsat-dl.org
In einer eMail vom 18.09.2013 01:12:03 Westeurop?ische Sommerzeit schreibt les@highnoonfilm.com:
MIT Study of interest to the satellite community: http://web.mit.edu/press/2013/space-weather-effects-on-satellites.html
--
73,
Les Rayburn, N1LF 121 Mayfair Park Maylene, AL 35114 EM63nf
6M VUCC #1712 AMSAT #38965 Grid Bandits #222 Southeastern VHF Society Central States VHF Society Life Member Six Club #2484
Active on 6 Meters thru 1296, 10GHz & Light
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Message: 14 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 06:33:55 -0700 (PDT) From: MM ka1rrw@yahoo.com To: John Becker w0jab@big-river.net, "amsat-bb@amsat.org" amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: so long, try EME Message-ID: 1379511235.53461.YahooMailNeo@web163801.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
EME is a good replacement (JT65) ? There are no borders. There is no politics (no one owns the Moon). There are no Satellite managers to control which mode is enabled or disabled. No person can hog the whole repeater. The Moon is usable 2+ weeks contiguous per month. In most countries you can run your countries legal limit. It?s much further away and thus a greater challenge. You do not need to join a club. ? And the list goes on.
From: John Becker w0jab@big-river.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 2:58 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] so long
I have decided to leave the list till something changes with this FM only satellite attitude only changes. That was the reason for me as well as other joining AMSAT in the first place.
Please inform me if anything such as a replacement for AO 40 happens.
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