Re: 2021.11.9 50kg microsatellite Z-Sat was launched. / 2021年11月9日 超小型衛星 Z-Sat が打ち上げられました
Is there HAM radio on this ship ? Why are they using HAM for commercial interests ? Why are they on our frequencies ? Is it interference ? Are there “rules” or not ? Who are these “customers” ? Pecuniary interest is illegal in HAM ? The whole space thing seems to becoming capitalized and militarized right in front of us. Bummer. K F o G
On 24/11/2021 10:21 Robert Coppock robertinorbit@webtv.net wrote:
Is there HAM radio on this ship ?
Which ship?
Why are they using HAM for commercial interests ?
They're not. They are providing facilities that are of interest to the ham community.
Why are they on our frequencies ?
Because they allow us to use their satellite for our own purposes.
Is it interference ? No
Are there “rules” or not ?
Yes, there are rules which are enforced.
Who are these “customers” ?
Which customers?
Pecuniary interest is illegal in HAM ?
True
The whole space thing seems to becoming capitalized and militarized right in front of us.
Your opinion.
Bummer.
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Nigel A. Gunn, ///shoulders.outwards.resolutions tel +1-937-971-0366 Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF and GMRS WRBV701, e-mail nigel@ngunn.net www http://www.ngunn.net
"Customers" I am assuming that means paying customers See previous email for " customers" What facilities are they providing that are of interest to ham ? Please explain the function of this satellite completely and specifically to ham with very specific details about that ham radio frequencies it will be using or possibly abusing. The just is still out. Sorry about being paranoid. Trust but verify. Satellite stuff all over the floor some more ? K F o G
________________________________ From: Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF nigel@ngunn.net Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2021 7:27 AM To: Robert Coppock robertinorbit@webtv.net Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: Re: [AMSAT-BB] Re: 2021.11.9 50kg microsatellite Z-Sat was launched. / 2021年11月9日 超小型衛星 Z-Sat が打ち上げられました
On 24/11/2021 10:21 Robert Coppock robertinorbit@webtv.net wrote:
Is there HAM radio on this ship ?
Which ship?
Why are they using HAM for commercial interests ?
They're not. They are providing facilities that are of interest to the ham community.
Why are they on our frequencies ?
Because they allow us to use their satellite for our own purposes.
Is it interference ? No
Are there “rules” or not ?
Yes, there are rules which are enforced.
Who are these “customers” ?
Which customers?
Pecuniary interest is illegal in HAM ?
True
The whole space thing seems to becoming capitalized and militarized right in front of us.
Your opinion.
Bummer.
K F o G ----------------------------------------------------------- Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Acceptable Use and Privacy Policies available at https://www.amsat.org/about-amsat/ View archives of this mailing list at https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/amsat-bb@amsat.org To unsubscribe send an email to amsat-bb-leave(a)amsat.org Manage all of your AMSAT-NA mailing list preferences at https://mailman.amsat.org
Nigel A. Gunn, ///shoulders.outwards.resolutions tel +1-937-971-0366 Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF and GMRS WRBV701, e-mail nigel@ngunn.net www http://www.ngunn.net
Sorry Robert, I assumed you had web access. The following is from the IARU frequency coordination page. Note that the earth observation mission is not using amateur frequencies.
Z-sat is a 50kg microsat with two missions:
1) Mission: BBS service Exchanging messages between amateurs all over the world in amateur service. Any amateur can use the space station like a BBS by uploading and downloading messages. The specific steps includes: An amateur radio station transmits messages to the space station for individual/public and these messages are stored in the space station. Another amateur radio station transmits a specific message to the space station and the space station transmits a reply message whether any message to him exists or not. If exists, the amateur radio station can receive the message by transmitting a specific message to the space station. Frequency band: - UPLINK : 435-438 MHz - DOWNLINK : 145-146 MHz (Note:The usage of the BBS is shown in the following URL. (same as ChubuSat-2 except frequencies) https://www.frontier.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp/en/chubusat/chubusat_satellite2.htm...
[Non-Amateur Mission] using frequencies outside the amateur satellite service spectrum (2) Mission: The Earth observation Imaging particular site with the infrared camera. Frequency band: - UPLINK : S-band - DOWNLINK : S-band No launch defined but planning a sun synchronous LEO. **BBS downlink has been coordinated on 145.875 MHz and for the BBS uplink 435.480 MHz**
de KM1P Joe
my internet access fails to access that site due to TLS error it seems the site is not good enough for firefox which is surprising because firefox has trouble getting a scroll bar to work i will try the duck duck go later thanks for the info.
it seems those are HAM frequencies but i am so confused i could be wrong oh boy i turned the oven on and forgot what i was going to cook my brains are already done
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE -H-E-L-P- 73 KFoG cm88pk
________________________________ From: Joseph B. Fitzgerald jfitzgerald@alum.wpi.edu Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2021 8:24 AM To: Robert Coppock robertinorbit@webtv.net; Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF nigel@ngunn.net Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: Re: [AMSAT-BB] Re: 2021.11.9 50kg microsatellite Z-Sat was launched. / 2021年11月9日 超小型衛星 Z-Sat が打ち上げられました
Sorry Robert, I assumed you had web access. The following is from the IARU frequency coordination page. Note that the earth observation mission is not using amateur frequencies.
Z-sat is a 50kg microsat with two missions:
1) Mission: BBS service Exchanging messages between amateurs all over the world in amateur service. Any amateur can use the space station like a BBS by uploading and downloading messages. The specific steps includes: An amateur radio station transmits messages to the space station for individual/public and these messages are stored in the space station. Another amateur radio station transmits a specific message to the space station and the space station transmits a reply message whether any message to him exists or not. If exists, the amateur radio station can receive the message by transmitting a specific message to the space station. Frequency band: - UPLINK : 435-438 MHz - DOWNLINK : 145-146 MHz (Note:The usage of the BBS is shown in the following URL. (same as ChubuSat-2 except frequencies) https://www.frontier.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp/en/chubusat/chubusat_satellite2.htm...
[Non-Amateur Mission] using frequencies outside the amateur satellite service spectrum (2) Mission: The Earth observation Imaging particular site with the infrared camera. Frequency band: - UPLINK : S-band - DOWNLINK : S-band No launch defined but planning a sun synchronous LEO. **BBS downlink has been coordinated on 145.875 MHz and for the BBS uplink 435.480 MHz**
de KM1P Joe
Robert,
No need for concern: twenty seconds of research reveals the IARU frequency coordination page:
http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=580
de KM1P Joe
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Joseph B. Fitzgerald
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Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF
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Robert Coppock