AMSAT-Francophone launches a consultation, open to all, on the amateur satellite radio service. Feel free to participate! Publié le 3 février 2019 par Xtophe
Dear
Satellite / nanosatellite project managers often wish to use amateur radio frequencies for educational and outreach purposes. The amateur radio community thus offers them a tremendous potential for monitoring their fragile conception. They often ask what kind of amateur radio experience would be interesting to board a cubesat or what services they could provide with their communications systems. The answer can be simple: a transponder, but these designers would like to bring novelty and innovation.
In order to provide more factual input, AMSAT-F http://site.amsat-f.org/ has decided to launch an online survey to find out what you do and would like to do as a satellite activity, what you expect from satellite designers and what you can bring to them. *The synthesis of these results will be presented at the second* AMSAT-F meetings « Rencontre spatiale radioamateur » on 9 and 10 March 2019 in Nanterre (France) http://site.amsat-f.org/2019/01/29/deuxieme-rencontre-spatiale-radioamateur-9-et-10-mars-2019-inscriptions-ouvertes/
Do not hesitate, give your opinion by completing the questionnaire via the link : https://framaforms.org/amsat-francophone-survey-1548716436 https://framaforms.org/amsat-francophone-survey-1548716436
The survey is in english but hosted on French server. Few guideline could be in French.
73
Christophe Mercier
AMSAT-F President
Hi,
I completed the survey a couple of days back and in retrospect I had one other comment to make about the survey itself.
In the section asking what bands or frequencies of operation I'd used or was active on the last option was "not interested". I would have liked to have had another option "interested but not equipped" or something.
Lastly I wanted to say that I appreciate the opportunity to take the survey and I am curious about whether the survey results will influence the design team.
Ron VE8RT / FP5EK
On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 15:03:54 +0100 "christophe.mcr" [email protected] wrote:
Dear
Satellite / nanosatellite project managers often wish to use amateur radio frequencies for educational and outreach purposes. The amateur radio community thus offers them a tremendous potential for monitoring their fragile conception. They often ask what kind of amateur radio experience would be interesting to board a cubesat or what services they could provide with their communications systems. The answer can be simple: a transponder, but these designers would like to bring novelty and innovation.
--- snipped the rest to keep it brief ---
Good evening Ron
I'm adding your contribution to the survey data. If you want to add more elements, send me your comments.
To date we have already received more than 177 contributions (see below). The results will be available for all AMSATs.
During the "amateur space meetings" in France (9&10 March) , these results will be shared and used for exchanges between participants, including satellite designers.
73
Christophe
Countrie/Number of response France 70 United Kingdom 17 United States 14 Germany 11 Poland 11 Netherlands 9 Belgium 6 Canada 5 Italy 5 Spain 4 Argentina 2 Australia 2 Austria 2 Brazil 2 Portugal 2 Romania 2 Sweden 2 Switzerland 2 Bulgaria 1 Colombia 1 Croatia 1 Finland 1 Greece 1 Japan 1 New Zealand 1 Venezuela 1 Sénégal 1
Le jeu. 7 févr. 2019 à 02:46, Ron VE8RT [email protected] a écrit :
Hi,
I completed the survey a couple of days back and in retrospect I had one other comment to make about the survey itself.
In the section asking what bands or frequencies of operation I'd used or was active on the last option was "not interested". I would have liked to have had another option "interested but not equipped" or something.
Lastly I wanted to say that I appreciate the opportunity to take the survey and I am curious about whether the survey results will influence the design team.
Ron VE8RT / FP5EK
On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 15:03:54 +0100 "christophe.mcr" [email protected] wrote:
Dear
Satellite / nanosatellite project managers often wish to use amateur
radio
frequencies for educational and outreach purposes. The amateur radio community thus offers them a tremendous potential for monitoring their fragile conception. They often ask what kind of amateur radio experience would be interesting to board a cubesat or what services they could
provide
with their communications systems. The answer can be simple: a
transponder,
but these designers would like to bring novelty and innovation.
--- snipped the rest to keep it brief ---
Ron VE8RT [email protected]
I just took it.
I think it's a good idea to find out what the sat community likes before you design a satellite that will be used/supported by the community.
My only concern is you didn't have a question about whether or not I want a ham transponder on a geostationary sat covering North America. ;-)
73, John Brier KG4AKV
On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 5:30 PM christophe.mcr [email protected] wrote:
Good evening Ron
I'm adding your contribution to the survey data. If you want to add more elements, send me your comments.
To date we have already received more than 177 contributions (see below). The results will be available for all AMSATs.
During the "amateur space meetings" in France (9&10 March) , these results will be shared and used for exchanges between participants, including satellite designers.
73
Christophe
Countrie/Number of response France 70 United Kingdom 17 United States 14 Germany 11 Poland 11 Netherlands 9 Belgium 6 Canada 5 Italy 5 Spain 4 Argentina 2 Australia 2 Austria 2 Brazil 2 Portugal 2 Romania 2 Sweden 2 Switzerland 2 Bulgaria 1 Colombia 1 Croatia 1 Finland 1 Greece 1 Japan 1 New Zealand 1 Venezuela 1 Sénégal 1
Le jeu. 7 févr. 2019 à 02:46, Ron VE8RT [email protected] a écrit :
Hi,
I completed the survey a couple of days back and in retrospect I had one other comment to make about the survey itself.
In the section asking what bands or frequencies of operation I'd used or was active on the last option was "not interested". I would have liked to have had another option "interested but not equipped" or something.
Lastly I wanted to say that I appreciate the opportunity to take the survey and I am curious about whether the survey results will influence the design team.
Ron VE8RT / FP5EK
On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 15:03:54 +0100 "christophe.mcr" [email protected] wrote:
Dear
Satellite / nanosatellite project managers often wish to use amateur
radio
frequencies for educational and outreach purposes. The amateur radio community thus offers them a tremendous potential for monitoring their fragile conception. They often ask what kind of amateur radio experience would be interesting to board a cubesat or what services they could
provide
with their communications systems. The answer can be simple: a
transponder,
but these designers would like to bring novelty and innovation.
--- snipped the rest to keep it brief ---
Ron VE8RT [email protected]
Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
On 2/7/2019 17:22, John Brier wrote:
I think it's a good idea to find out what the sat community likes before you design a satellite that will be used/supported by the community.
It would be exciting to see a satellite with operations "designed by the user". The diverse opinions on favorite uses presents a challenge in meeting many or choosing the right few in order to please the most, of course. Perhaps the bottom line, as John suggested "will be used/supported by the community", would be survey respondents willing to commit to contributions that would pay for the entire project in order to make your favorite operations become a reality.
Jerry Buxton, NØJY
Another way to express that idea: "Put your money where your mouth is!" I'm not sure of the french translation though ;-)
The survey did ask respondents if they would be willing to help with other types of support for a potential satellite.
I said it in the survey but I'll say it here too:
Thanks to all who help get ham sats in orbit!
73, John Brier KG4AKV
On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 10:51 PM Jerry Buxton [email protected] wrote:
On 2/7/2019 17:22, John Brier wrote:
I think it's a good idea to find out what the sat community likes before you design a satellite that will be used/supported by the community.
It would be exciting to see a satellite with operations "designed by the user". The diverse opinions on favorite uses presents a challenge in meeting many or choosing the right few in order to please the most, of course. Perhaps the bottom line, as John suggested "will be used/supported by the community", would be survey respondents willing to commit to contributions that would pay for the entire project in order to make your favorite operations become a reality.
Jerry Buxton, NØJY
Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
Good afternoon Christophe: I am a new (currently designing first satellite system) ham.
For me, working hams in many DXCC entities (countries) is interesting and fun, along with sharing the physics facets of satellite operation to engage my electrical engineering students. I have antennas for V/U purchased in the garage and am struggling to find a ring rotator solution for azimuth and elevation that gets me above adjacent trees. (no solution found yet)
HEO to enable access to most DXCCs is my primary (only) real satellite interest. I would attempt WAS for something to do while awaiting more DXCCs.
I realize other satellite ops have different interests.
Very 73!
David J. Schmocker, KJ9I
On 2/7/19, 4:28 PM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of christophe.mcr" <[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote:
Good evening Ron
I'm adding your contribution to the survey data. If you want to add more elements, send me your comments.
To date we have already received more than 177 contributions (see below). The results will be available for all AMSATs.
During the "amateur space meetings" in France (9&10 March) , these results will be shared and used for exchanges between participants, including satellite designers.
73
Christophe
Countrie/Number of response France 70 United Kingdom 17 United States 14 Germany 11 Poland 11 Netherlands 9 Belgium 6 Canada 5 Italy 5 Spain 4 Argentina 2 Australia 2 Austria 2 Brazil 2 Portugal 2 Romania 2 Sweden 2 Switzerland 2 Bulgaria 1 Colombia 1 Croatia 1 Finland 1 Greece 1 Japan 1 New Zealand 1 Venezuela 1 Sénégal 1
Le jeu. 7 févr. 2019 à 02:46, Ron VE8RT [email protected] a écrit :
Hi,
I completed the survey a couple of days back and in retrospect I had one other comment to make about the survey itself.
In the section asking what bands or frequencies of operation I'd used or was active on the last option was "not interested". I would have liked to have had another option "interested but not equipped" or something.
Lastly I wanted to say that I appreciate the opportunity to take the survey and I am curious about whether the survey results will influence the design team.
Ron VE8RT / FP5EK
On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 15:03:54 +0100 "christophe.mcr" [email protected] wrote:
Dear
Satellite / nanosatellite project managers often wish to use amateur
radio
frequencies for educational and outreach purposes. The amateur radio community thus offers them a tremendous potential for monitoring their fragile conception. They often ask what kind of amateur radio
experience
would be interesting to board a cubesat or what services they could
provide
with their communications systems. The answer can be simple: a
transponder,
but these designers would like to bring novelty and innovation.
--- snipped the rest to keep it brief ---
Ron VE8RT [email protected]
Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
Every one of you has a perfectly good reason to build (or buy) an expensive or inexpensive microwave stations right now, whether it is for the satellite or terrestrial radio services.
It's called, 10000's of MHz of unused and unexplored spectrum above 1 GHz.
The radio spectrum is a finite resource . However, nowdays it is being sold off to the highest bidder which benefits a few companies so they can make billions in annual revenue.
Basically use it or loose it.
There are not many satellites with microwave transponders now, but in the future?
Why wait for a satellite to be designed/launched? Put something on the air for terrestrial use now. Explore and learn the propagation quirks of the bands. Learn to appreciate what it takes to aim an antenna that has less than 3 degrees beamwidth on a fixed target beyond the line of sight. When the time comes and a sat is put into service using microwave/millimeterwave uplinks/downlinks you may be a head of the curve and we may still have band(s) to use.
73 Scott AA5AM
On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 8:42 AM David J. Schmocker [email protected] wrote:
Good afternoon Christophe: I am a new (currently designing first satellite system) ham.
For me, working hams in many DXCC entities (countries) is interesting and fun, along with sharing the physics facets of satellite operation to engage my electrical engineering students. I have antennas for V/U purchased in the garage and am struggling to find a ring rotator solution for azimuth and elevation that gets me above adjacent trees. (no solution found yet)
HEO to enable access to most DXCCs is my primary (only) real satellite interest. I would attempt WAS for something to do while awaiting more DXCCs.
I realize other satellite ops have different interests.
Very 73!
David J. Schmocker, KJ9I
On 2/7/19, 4:28 PM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of christophe.mcr" <[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote:
Good evening Ron
I'm adding your contribution to the survey data. If you want to add more elements, send me your comments.
To date we have already received more than 177 contributions (see below). The results will be available for all AMSATs.
During the "amateur space meetings" in France (9&10 March) , these results will be shared and used for exchanges between participants, including satellite designers.
73
Christophe
Countrie/Number of response France 70 United Kingdom 17 United States 14 Germany 11 Poland 11 Netherlands 9 Belgium 6 Canada 5 Italy 5 Spain 4 Argentina 2 Australia 2 Austria 2 Brazil 2 Portugal 2 Romania 2 Sweden 2 Switzerland 2 Bulgaria 1 Colombia 1 Croatia 1 Finland 1 Greece 1 Japan 1 New Zealand 1 Venezuela 1 Sénégal 1
Le jeu. 7 févr. 2019 à 02:46, Ron VE8RT [email protected] a écrit :
Hi,
I completed the survey a couple of days back and in retrospect I had one other comment to make about the survey itself.
In the section asking what bands or frequencies of operation I'd used or was active on the last option was "not interested". I would have liked to have had another option "interested but not equipped" or something.
Lastly I wanted to say that I appreciate the opportunity to take the survey and I am curious about whether the survey results will influence the design team.
Ron VE8RT / FP5EK
On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 15:03:54 +0100 "christophe.mcr" [email protected] wrote:
Dear
Satellite / nanosatellite project managers often wish to use amateur
radio
frequencies for educational and outreach purposes. The amateur radio community thus offers them a tremendous potential for monitoring their fragile conception. They often ask what kind of amateur radio
experience
would be interesting to board a cubesat or what services they could
provide
with their communications systems. The answer can be simple: a
transponder,
but these designers would like to bring novelty and innovation.
--- snipped the rest to keep it brief ---
Ron VE8RT [email protected]
Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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John Brier -
Ron VE8RT -
Scott Armstrong