Philip -

The Phase 3 satellites: AO-10 and AO-13 used the same "space frame". As noted, historical web sites note physical size as: 600 x 40 x 200 mm

An identical Phase 3 "ground-spare" spaceframe, was in Germany with AMSAT-DL. IF you look closely, at the photos, and use "rough measures" from image --- the stated size is incorrect (NOT a centimeter/millimeter transposition/mislabeling) https://amsat-uk.org/tag/p3e/

I do not know if this spaceframe was ever shipped to Virginia Tech for AMSAT P3E, as noted in this 2015 AMSAT-UK announcement. https://www.p3e-satellite.org/en_EN/mission.html

greg, w9gb AMSAT-UK, AMSAT-NA === I'm displaying a picture of AO-13 (my first sat QSO was on that bird) to contrast it with a picture of the the cubesats of today

The only dimensions I'm finding for AO-13 are 600 x 40 x 200 mm...this seems awfully small for a 92 Kg (plus another 30Kg for fuel) weight. (23.6 inches x 1.6 inches x 7.8 inches).

Were these dimensions actually in centimeters. and not millimeters?

Thanks Philip N4HF ==end==