Why should we support AMSAT. I already have a cell phone. I could give you my number. We could set up a conference call. Everyone can talk and listen ...worldwide....and interrupt each other....for a lot less cost than putting up our own satellite. Better yet... there is the internet...Skype...complete with video. We can talk all over the world. Why should we spend money on our own satellites when somebody else has already paid the bill? No pile-ups,...Problem solved. :-))
KM9U...just a fellow amateur wondering why. ;-))
President Kennedy answered your question better than I can:
"But why, some say, the moon? Why choose this as our goal?...... We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win"
Now replace "We choose to go to the moon" with "We choose to design and build our own satellites" and all the rest of the words apply just as well to us, 50 years later.
If you just want to make phone calls, you don't need to be a ham. Ham radio is for the one kid in 100 who wants to pry the lid off the box and see how the magic works.
The amateur radio satellite community paved the way for all of the small satellites that came later. Amsat alumni founded many of the companies that are now active in the small satellite business, the same industry which has now bid up the price of secondary launches to a point where we can no longer afford to launch satellites by passing the hat and selling software and t-shirts at hamfests.
Why support Fox? Fox will send a message to the CubeSat community that they should set their sights higher than that of building short lived beepsats that are considered successful if they transmit a signal for one day before going silent. The engineering needed to build a satellite for a 5 year or longer mission will be eye-opening to some of these groups. The RF system must be engineered for space flight, not adapted from data sheets and application notes that are better suited for baby monitors or garage door openers, or taking the plastic case off of a store bought handietalkie and hoping that it will perform on orbit. We can use the energy and enthusiasm of the student satellite builders, and they can learn from our 50 years of experience in satellite communications.
FOX is a way for Amsat to show off our engineering prowess to the rest of the satellite world. Providing communications packages ready to drop into a new satellite could be our ticket in the future. If we can find a university or agency that wants to put their experiment into HEO but doesn't want the hassle of designing their communications system, that could be our ticket back to HEO.
Dan Schultz N8FGV
Hi Dan,
You have some good points and your thoughts are appreciated. But why are you diminishing the students efforts by making these statements:
should set their sights higher than that of building short lived beepsats that
are considered successful if they transmit a signal for one day before going silent.
The RF system must be
engineered for space flight, not adapted from data sheets and application notes that are better suited for baby monitors or garage door openers, or taking the plastic case off of a store bought handietalkie and hoping that it
At least they are building, studying, learning and actually many times successfully have an operational satellite.
Thanks for reading.
Stefan, VE4NSA
Dan Schultz N8FGV
Sorry neither the quote from JFK (no matter how stirring it is) nor the notion of AMSAT paring up with the folks at universities who make the bleep sats makes much sense to the debate on Amateur radio satellites.
We did go to the Moon because it was hard, we went we did it and then we stopped very fast...why? Other then it was hard there was no reason to keep on doing it. There is no reason or reasons today other then really made up ones (the Chinese are going, national greatness, etc). Watch how silent the American people were when Constellation was cancelled...no one cared. (unless you worked in the space business)
As for Universities paring with the new digital transponder. Good luck. Ignoring the actual results of Suitsat 2...the reality is that most cubesats dont have the power to do the transponder AND anything else...and second building the entire package "from data sheets" is a lot about what the project is done for.
Debates like this (and its spin offs) occur whenever morale is low. Robert G. Oler WB5MZO life member AMSAT ARRL NARS
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