I see that both the Icom 746PRO and the Icom 910H have been discontinued, and I am assuming that the Icom 9100 is the replacement for both of them. Any word yet on when it will be made available?
73s John AA5JG
I notice the RF control on the front of the rig. I HOPE they allow menu control out RF output for each band. Otherwise you are going to have an Icom 910 with HF/Six. The TS-2000 does a nice job of allowing various power output levels to deal with amps, etc. It would be a shame if they overlooked this important feature, for the second time.
Steve, N4JQQ
John Geiger wrote:
I see that both the Icom 746PRO and the Icom 910H have been discontinued, and I am assuming that the Icom 9100 is the replacement for both of them. Any word yet on when it will be made available?
73s John AA5JG
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But if you put it in a menu then you will, of course, have everyone griping how the power control is in a menu, like they do for the FT950.
73s JOhn AA5JG
--- On Thu, 11/19/09, Crownhaven crownhaven@bellsouth.net wrote:
From: Crownhaven crownhaven@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: [VHF] Icom 9100 release date? To: "John Geiger" aa5jg@yahoo.com Cc: icom@mailman.qth.net, vhf@w6yx.stanford.edu, amsat-bb@amsat.org Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 5:23 PM I notice the RF control on the front of the rig. I HOPE they allow menu control out RF output for each band. Otherwise you are going to have an Icom 910 with HF/Six. The TS-2000 does a nice job of allowing various power output levels to deal with amps, etc. It would be a shame if they overlooked this important feature, for the second time.
Steve, N4JQQ
John Geiger wrote:
I see that both the Icom 746PRO and the Icom 910H have
been discontinued, and I am assuming that the Icom 9100 is the replacement for both of them. Any word yet on when it will be made available?
73s John AA5JG
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Would you rather have it in a menu or risk damaging your various amplifiers when you forget to adjust it for whatever input might be required? This would be a moot point if you were going to run the rig barefoot and rove with it. But, if you are a serious op who desires an amp on each band, having to adjust the control from band to band is a pain in the ass and a recipe for disaster.
John Geiger wrote:
But if you put it in a menu then you will, of course, have everyone griping how the power control is in a menu, like they do for the FT950.
73s JOhn AA5JG
--- On Thu, 11/19/09, Crownhaven crownhaven@bellsouth.net wrote:
From: Crownhaven crownhaven@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: [VHF] Icom 9100 release date? To: "John Geiger" aa5jg@yahoo.com Cc: icom@mailman.qth.net, vhf@w6yx.stanford.edu, amsat-bb@amsat.org Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 5:23 PM I notice the RF control on the front of the rig. I HOPE they allow menu control out RF output for each band. Otherwise you are going to have an Icom 910 with HF/Six. The TS-2000 does a nice job of allowing various power output levels to deal with amps, etc. It would be a shame if they overlooked this important feature, for the second time.
Steve, N4JQQ
John Geiger wrote:
I see that both the Icom 746PRO and the Icom 910H have
been discontinued, and I am assuming that the Icom 9100 is the replacement for both of them. Any word yet on when it will be made available?
73s John AA5JG
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You are assuming that Icom would have the menu allow different settings for each band. It still might need to be reset when changing bands.
I just wish Icom had gotten the USB/CW switching right in the 910h. As is, you have to re-tune the radio to continue listening to the same signal when switching from USB to CW (or the other way). Even with the retuning, the filters are offset, so when going to CW you lose the low tones received.
Icom had this right back in the 271/471, but apparently nobody designing the 910h ever switched to CW to reply to a SSB station. I guess they don't actually *operate* radios.
The annoying part is that it could probably be fixed with a firmware update if they had included that possibility (and actually cared enough to release one).
Alan wa6azp
From: Crownhaven crownhaven@bellsouth.net
Would you rather have it in a menu or risk damaging your various amplifiers when you forget to adjust it for whatever input might be required? This would be a moot point if you were going to run the rig barefoot and rove with it. But, if you are a serious op who desires an amp on each band, having to adjust the control from band to band is a pain in the ass and a recipe for disaster.
Hi Alan......yes, I was assuming that Icom would allow different settings for each band. That might be asking too much. Regarding the USB/CW switching, I am using an array of the "5" series radios here and understand that issue all too well. You are spot on though. Maybe we will get lucky.
Steve, N4JQQ
Alan Larson wrote:
You are assuming that Icom would have the menu allow different settings for each band. It still might need to be reset when changing bands.
I just wish Icom had gotten the USB/CW switching right in the 910h. As is, you have to re-tune the radio to continue listening to the same signal when switching from USB to CW (or the other way). Even with the retuning, the filters are offset, so when going to CW you lose the low tones received.
Icom had this right back in the 271/471, but apparently nobody designing the 910h ever switched to CW to reply to a SSB station. I guess they don't actually *operate* radios.
The annoying part is that it could probably be fixed with a firmware update if they had included that possibility (and actually cared enough to release one).
Alan wa6azp
From: Crownhaven crownhaven@bellsouth.net
Would you rather have it in a menu or risk damaging your various amplifiers when you forget to adjust it for whatever input might be required? This would be a moot point if you were going to run the rig barefoot and rove with it. But, if you are a serious op who desires an amp on each band, having to adjust the control from band to band is a pain in the ass and a recipe for disaster.
Hello I believe it's the IC756 ProIII that has been discontinued not the 746pro and Is the 9100 actually a Satellite transceiver. I havent seen any proof of full duplex operation and doppler control thanks Howard VE4ISP
----- Original Message ----- From: "John Geiger" aa5jg@yahoo.com To: icom@mailman.qth.net; vhf@w6yx.stanford.edu; amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 2:54 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom 9100 release date?
I see that both the Icom 746PRO and the Icom 910H have been discontinued, and I am assuming that the Icom 9100 is the replacement for both of them. Any word yet on when it will be made available?
73s John AA5JG
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Although there has been some talk about various models being discontinued, both the 910 and the756ProII are still very much evident on the Icom America website!
The 9100 is billed as a satellite transceiver (I mean it does has a little button on it marked "satellite", so it must be....yes?) but in essence its a TS2000 clone (a shack in a box) and my fear is that because it has so many features packed in to it, its only going to be as good as its weakest component.
I will wait for those operators with vastly deeper pockets than mine to give it a thorough shakedown before I would consider trading in my trusty 910 - after all, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it!"
Sometimes I think we are a bit guilty of being "rig tarts" (quaint English saying meaning to be enamoured of the next shiny box that comes along to the detriment of our existing gear!)
According to the AES website both the 746PRO and the 910H are listed as closeouts, and Gigaparts doesn't even list the 746PRO for sale any longer.
The 9100 will up the ante on the TS2000 by doing dual receive and allowing for optional roofing filters to be installed for HF/6m.
73s John AA5JG
--- On Thu, 11/19/09, David - KG4ZLB kg4zlb@googlemail.com wrote:
From: David - KG4ZLB kg4zlb@googlemail.com Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Icom 9100 release date? To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 9:20 PM Although there has been some talk about various models being discontinued, both the 910 and the756ProII are still very much evident on the Icom America website!
The 9100 is billed as a satellite transceiver (I mean it does has a little button on it marked "satellite", so it must be....yes?) but in essence its a TS2000 clone (a shack in a box) and my fear is that because it has so many features packed in to it, its only going to be as good as its weakest component.
I will wait for those operators with vastly deeper pockets than mine to give it a thorough shakedown before I would consider trading in my trusty 910 - after all, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it!"
Sometimes I think we are a bit guilty of being "rig tarts" (quaint English saying meaning to be enamoured of the next shiny box that comes along to the detriment of our existing gear!)
-- David KG4ZLB www.kg4zlb.com
Howard Kowall wrote:
Hello I believe it's the IC756 ProIII that has been
discontinued not the 746pro
and Is the 9100 actually a Satellite transceiver. I havent seen any proof of full duplex operation and
doppler control
thanks Howard VE4ISP
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According to IcomAmerica, the IC-9100 is slated for release at the Dayton Hamvention next year. When it actually becomes available on the US market is up to the FCC. It is the replacement for the 746 Pro and 910H, hopefully it won't cost as much as both of them together.
Jeff Moore KE7ACY CN94
----- Original Message ----- From: "John Geiger" aa5jg@yahoo.com Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom 9100 release date?
I see that both the Icom 746PRO and the Icom 910H have been discontinued, and I am assuming that the Icom 9100 is the replacement for both of them. Any word yet on when it will be made available?
73s John AA5JG
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Actually, if it did cost as much as both the Icom 746PRO and the 910H together, that would put it at around $2600. That would be a heck of a deal for a radio that did all those bands, had dual receive, and used roofing filters. I am guessing it will cost more like $3500 or so.
73s John AA5JG
--- On Fri, 11/20/09, Jeff Moore tnetcenter@gmail.com wrote:
From: Jeff Moore tnetcenter@gmail.com Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Icom 9100 release date? To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 12:19 PM According to IcomAmerica, the IC-9100 is slated for release at the Dayton Hamvention next year. When it actually becomes available on the US market is up to the FCC. It is the replacement for the 746 Pro and 910H, hopefully it won't cost as much as both of them together.
Jeff Moore KE7ACY CN94
----- Original Message ----- From: "John Geiger" aa5jg@yahoo.com Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom 9100 release date?
I see that both the Icom 746PRO and the Icom 910H have been discontinued, and I am assuming that the Icom 9100 is the replacement for both of them. Any word yet on when it will be made available?
73s John AA5JG
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