Re: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT
I did a quick Google search on the IARP that Paul mentioned. Here is the info on it: http://www.arrl.org/iarp - pretty easy. I am sure the Symposium webpages will have more and more info added in the coming weeks to cover all necessary aspects of travelling and operating abroad.
There will be published guidance for onboard operations in the months to come. Being a Panama-flagged ship makes /HP operation fairly simple.
My recommendation is to follow the web page that is up and running on the AMSAT website: http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=3667 There's a FAQ page linked at the bottom.
The most important task today is reserving your cabin space. AMSAT cannot hold a large block of cabins indefinitely. The $150 per person deposit is 100% refundable up until September 11.
73 Clayton W5PFG
On 1/10/2016 17:42, W M Willoughby wrote:
I did a quick Google search on the IARP that Paul mentioned. Here is the info on it: http://www.arrl.org/iarp - pretty easy. I am sure the Symposium webpages will have more and more info added in the coming weeks to cover all necessary aspects of travelling and operating abroad.
Hi!
It appears that the process for a non-Panamanian amateur operator to legally operate from a Panamanian-registered ship is simple. For amateur operators in some North and South American countries, including the USA and Canada, the IARP is the way to go. If the foreign operator cannot obtain an IARP, a temporary Panamanian amateur permit is available. For IARP holders, there is also a notification that appears to be required - a notice sent to the Panamanian Department of Communications, part of the Ministry of Government and Justice. This information is listed on the Radio Club de Panama web site:
http://www.qsl.net/hp1rcp/PANAMA%20AMATEUR%20RADIO%20LICENSING%20INFORMATION...
A notification is much simpler than having to apply for a temporary operating permit. Hopefully this step is what it appears to be in that link above - a formality. This page refers to operating from Panamanian territory, and is silent on the topic of maritime mobile operation from a Panamanian-flagged ship. Since a ship can be considered an extension of the country of its registration, this is hopefully not a problem in the eyes of the Panamanian authorities.
On the other hand, I would not expect there is any chance of obtaining permission to operate in Cozumel or Mexican territorial waters. In the past couple of years, the regulator for amateur licensing in Mexico changed. So far, the new regulator (Federal Telecommunications Institute, also known by abbreviations IFT or IFETEL) has not issued new amateur licenses or permits. IFT has been renewing existing amateur licenses, and even in the past the process to get a temporary amateur permit to operate in Mexico was not easy - or cheap.
In US territorial waters, it is simple. If you have a US amateur license, or a foreign license recognized by the FCC, you can operate.
All of this, of course, depends on having permission from the ship's captain to use radio gear onboard. I did not know that Carnival has a ham-friendly reputation, but that was mentioned in a presentation given by Allen Mattis N5AFV at the 2013 AMSAT Symposium in Houston. Allen talked about his experiences operating from cruise ships and getting licensed to operate from the ships (among other topics). A video of that 2013 presentation is available at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMBuGjHSH2U
The slideshow from Allen's 2013 Symposium presentation is available at:
http://mstl.atl.calpoly.edu/~bklofas/Presentations/AMSAT-NA_Symposium2013/Ma...
This is an interesting plan for a Symposium, and being able to operate on the ship would be a nice thing along with the normal Symposium activities and the day in Cozumel. It is good that the Symposium FAQ was updated today with more information on the costs of the cruise, beyond the $150 deposit.
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK
On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 11:57 PM, Clayton W5PFG w5pfg@amsat.org wrote:
There will be published guidance for onboard operations in the months to come. Being a Panama-flagged ship makes /HP operation fairly simple.
FYI 1-800 numbers only seem to work in the USA.
10/Nov is not listed as standard sailing, so details are difficult to find.
73
David -----Original Message----- From: Clayton W5PFG w5pfg@amsat.org To: amsat-bb amsat-bb@amsat.org CC: W M Willoughby redski@bellsouth.net Sent: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 23:58 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT
There will be published guidance for onboard operations in the months to come. Being a Panama-flagged ship makes /HP operation fairly simple.
My recommendation is to follow the web page that is up and running on the AMSAT website: http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=3667 There's a FAQ page linked at the bottom.
The most important task today is reserving your cabin space. AMSAT cannot hold a large block of cabins indefinitely. The $150 per person deposit is 100% refundable up until September 11.
73 Clayton W5PFG
On 1/10/2016 17:42, W M Willoughby wrote:
I did a quick Google search on the IARP that Paul mentioned. Here is the info on it: http://www.arrl.org/iarp - pretty easy. I am sure the Symposium webpages will have more and more info added in the coming weeks to cover all necessary aspects of travelling and operating abroad.
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For callers outside of the USA, please call +1 305-599-2600, extension 70005.
Thank you, Clayton W5PFG
On 1/11/2016 03:33, David G0MRF wrote:
FYI 1-800 numbers only seem to work in the USA. 10/Nov is not listed as standard sailing, so details are difficult to find. 73 David -----Original Message----- From: Clayton W5PFG w5pfg@amsat.org To: amsat-bb amsat-bb@amsat.org CC: W M Willoughby redski@bellsouth.net Sent: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 23:58 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT
There will be published guidance for onboard operations in the months to come. Being a Panama-flagged ship makes /HP operation fairly simple.
My recommendation is to follow the web page that is up and running on the AMSAT website: http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=3667 There's a FAQ page linked at the bottom.
The most important task today is reserving your cabin space. AMSAT cannot hold a large block of cabins indefinitely. The $150 per person deposit is 100% refundable up until September 11.
73 Clayton W5PFG
On 1/10/2016 17:42, W M Willoughby wrote:
I did a quick Google search on the IARP that Paul mentioned. Here is the info on it: http://www.arrl.org/iarp - pretty easy. I am sure the
Symposium
webpages will have more and more info added in the coming weeks to
cover all
necessary aspects of travelling and operating abroad.
Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org mailto:AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
Thanks Clayton (and several others off list)
After spending several minutes online, the Carnival site suddenly realised I was in the UK and offered me a local number.
73
David
-----Original Message----- From: Clayton W5PFG w5pfg@amsat.org To: David G0MRF g0mrf@aol.com; amsat-bb amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 16:37 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT
For callers outside of the USA, please call +1 305-599-2600, extension 70005.
Thank you, Clayton W5PFG
On 1/11/2016 03:33, David G0MRF wrote:
FYI 1-800 numbers only seem to work in the USA. 10/Nov is not listed as standard sailing, so details are difficult to find. 73 David -----Original Message----- From: Clayton W5PFG w5pfg@amsat.org To: amsat-bb amsat-bb@amsat.org CC: W M Willoughby redski@bellsouth.net Sent: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 23:58 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT
There will be published guidance for onboard operations in the months to come. Being a Panama-flagged ship makes /HP operation fairly simple.
My recommendation is to follow the web page that is up and running on the AMSAT website: http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=3667 There's a FAQ page linked at the bottom.
The most important task today is reserving your cabin space. AMSAT cannot hold a large block of cabins indefinitely. The $150 per person deposit is 100% refundable up until September 11.
73 Clayton W5PFG
On 1/10/2016 17:42, W M Willoughby wrote:
I did a quick Google search on the IARP that Paul mentioned. Here is the info on it: http://www.arrl.org/iarp - pretty easy. I am sure the
Symposium
webpages will have more and more info added in the coming weeks to
cover all
necessary aspects of travelling and operating abroad.
Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org mailto:AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Clayton W5PFG -
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Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) -
W M Willoughby