thought for a neat product, anyone seen one?
I just thought of kind of a neat product for those of us that work sats. Has anyone seen anything similar? I have an ft-817 which has a cat interface and will operate both ssb and fm. Has anyone seen a little box that would adjust the radio frequency for both uplink and downlink while displaying azmuth and elevation data? It seems that it would be handy to have the frequency control take care of itself while providing data as to where I should point the arrow. What do those reading this idea think of it? It would seem to me to be quite useful especially for ssb.
Eric AF6EP
Hi Eric!
I just thought of kind of a neat product for those of us that work sats. Has anyone seen anything similar? I have an ft-817 which has a cat interface and will operate both ssb and fm. Has anyone seen a little box that would adjust the radio frequency for both uplink and downlink while displaying azmuth and elevation data? It seems that it would be handy to have the frequency control take care of itself while providing data as to where I should point the arrow. What do those reading this idea think of it? It would seem to me to be quite useful especially for ssb.
I'd like something like that. Barring that, I will use a small laptop with the Yaesu CAT cables (I'm using 2 FT-817NDs) and run SatPC32 or some other software to do the radio control. In the field or at hamfests, it would be a lot easier to have computer control of the frequencies - and show those not familiar with non-FM satellite operation how it can be done.
Back to printing QSL cards...
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Hey Eric,
As far as pointing your antenna in full-manual operation - and until you or someone gets that neat little box built, tested and rnuning - let me offer a couple of ideas.
First and most importantly, start watching visible passes of the International Space Station. Note the azimuth positions for acquisition, maximum elevation and loss of visual. The tracking software I use tells me where the ISS will rise and set at the horizon, but my personal experience is that it often doesn't come into view here until it reaches 10-or-so degrees of elevation. That's important if you try to track from closer to the horizon because the ISS coming into view might be misleading because it's often higher than the horizon before you can see it.
The more passes you watch, the more accustomed you'll become to judging maximum elevation. Before long, you will be able to take the schedules generated by programs like SatPC32 and Orbitron and "visualiize" how a satellite will move across the sky. I use a Brunton Satellite Alignment base plate compass, which I just discovered a few months ago. Sells online for $12. It includes a protractor of sorts on one end of the base plate that will show you elevations up to 60 degrees.
So ... let's say I have a pass of AO-51 coming up with AOS at azimuth 178 degrees; maximum elevation of 55 degrees at azimuth 260 degrees; and LOS at azimuth 341 degrees. I go out a few minutes before the pass and, using the compass, find visible landmarks that correspond with the three azimuth positions. Then, I get an idea of exactly where in the sky it will be at maximum elevation (i.e., i go up 55 degrees from azimuth 260). I'm going to follow it up the sky with my handheld antenna from 178 to 260, then follow it down from 260 to 341. Those "practice" ISS passes help me to visualize that line.
As Patrick mentioned, SatPC32 will automatically track Doppler for you, even with two radios as he (and I) use. I'm still doing everything manually here, but look forward to being able to use computer control if I choose.
I hope ths proves helpful. Best of luck with your satellite work!
73,
Tim - N3TL AMSAT Member No. 36820 QRP-ARCI Member No. 5547 ARRL Member No. 0007027180 Athens, Ga. - EM84ha -------------- Original message from "Eric Fort" eric.fort@gmail.com: --------------
I just thought of kind of a neat product for those of us that work sats. Has anyone seen anything similar? I have an ft-817 which has a cat interface and will operate both ssb and fm. Has anyone seen a little box that would adjust the radio frequency for both uplink and downlink while displaying azmuth and elevation data? It seems that it would be handy to have the frequency control take care of itself while providing data as to where I should point the arrow. What do those reading this idea think of it? It would seem to me to be quite useful especially for ssb.
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Eric Fort wrote:
I just thought of kind of a neat product for those of us that work sats. Has anyone seen anything similar? I have an ft-817 which has a cat interface and will operate both ssb and fm. Has anyone seen a little box that would adjust the radio frequency for both uplink and downlink while displaying azmuth and elevation data? It seems that it would be handy to have the frequency control take care of itself while providing data as to where I should point the arrow. What do those reading this idea think of it? It would seem to me to be quite useful especially for ssb.
I think it was Mark VandeWettering, KF6KYI, who had a similar idea a few months ago. Last I heard I think he was toying around with the idea of using a Gumstix (http://www.gumstix.com/)device to be the "black box." - There was a reason he didn't pursue it, but I forget why.
This is a easily extensible system that can be hacked up to control doppler and handle basic radio functions. One could probably have a simple system banged out in an afternoon. As it gets more complicated (external display to control satellite selection, etc) it gets a touch harder to make, but still within the realm of possibility. The good part about Gumstix is that you don't need to get the hardware first to start working on the software, as it's all based on Linux.
I think this idea has a lot of promise, and if I had a transceiver that could computer control, I'd probably start designing it. :)
What is the substantial buzz or mum I heard on AO-51 during the 12:20UTC pass this morning here in the US?
Dont think was just me..it went away if I got off freq. a bit.
Next pass was fine.
Thanks Curt "the Noob" KU8L
participants (5)
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Ben Jackson
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Curt Nixon
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Eric Fort
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n3tl@bellsouth.net
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Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)