""" We have 5-6 years left of ISS. We need to make the best of what little time we have left. Everyone needs to work harder, better and faster. I would hate to see those remaining 11 unused antennas go to waste when ISS burns up."""
Ok , label me ignorant .. But is it that difficult to boost its orbit? I guess I need a techie explaination .. Heck .. If its going to just burn up .. Then just before it gets to the point off no return, then take those Huge solar panels to the moon .. LOL or take some of the modules to the moon ..
Whats going to replace the space station? The lunar base?
Anyways... Someone explain to me please lol
Cheers
Randy - N2CUA
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Ok , label me ignorant .. But is it that difficult to boost its orbit? I guess I need a techie explaination .. Heck .. If its going to just burn up .. Then just before it gets to the point off no return, then take those Huge solar panels to the moon .. LOL or take some of the modules to the moon ..
Whats going to replace the space station? The lunar base?
Anyways... Someone explain to me please lol
Cheers
Randy - N2CUA
Randy. ISS is not going to just "burn up". ISS is an "engine" and that engine requires federal US dollars to keep running. NASA having just about finished ISS has no idea of what to do with it, and wants to move on to the next grand project. Sadly for them in this time of 1.6 trillion deficts there is no more money for "the next logical step" and so they are forced to find dollars somewhere else...and for them that means shutting down ISS.
NASA isnt going back to the Moon and they are not going to get to shut ISS down. It will be around for a very long time.
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:02:36 +0000 From: [email protected]
NASA's lack of money or commitment doesn't prevent the other countries in the consortium from using the station past NASAs cut off date. It doesn't have to die just because the US say so.
As a practical matter if the US were to pull out of ISS the station would not be viable. Most if not all of the major support hardware (solar arrays etc) are US built and maintained..without US involvement the TDRSS system disappears for instance..The "bucks" required to maintain the station are enormous...
It doesnt matter because anyone who thinks that the political system in the US would allow spending almost 100 billion to build ISS then chunking it after 5 years of "use" doesnt understand US politics...ISS will be around for a very long time.
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NASA's lack of money or commitment doesn't prevent the other countries in the consortium from using the station past NASAs cut off date. It doesn't have to die just because the US say so.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:57:38 +0000 From: [email protected] To: [email protected] CC: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS future?
I think you are somewhat misguided if you believe that the US is the only country with satallite communications systems or solar voltaic panel production facilities.
did not say that...
but ISS stuff is "unique"...and US pockets are (so far) deep...NASA spends more to maintain the space station then Europe and Japans human space budget combined.
it is a money pit
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I think you are somewhat misguided if you believe that the US is the only country with satallite communications systems or solar voltaic panel production facilities.
Rocky Jones wrote: Most if not all of the major support hardware
(solar arrays etc) are US built and maintained..without US involvement the TDRSS system disappears for instance..The "bucks" required to maintain the station are enormous...
Really!
I'd like to see where in the states solar panels are being made? Other than some new technologies that have just started up, 90% or more and I'm thinking 90% is way LOW anyway panels are made in Japan or China right now.
Joe WB9SBD
Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:
I think you are somewhat misguided if you believe that the US is the only country with satallite communications systems or solar voltaic panel production facilities.
Rocky Jones wrote: Most if not all of the major support hardware
(solar arrays etc) are US built and maintained..without US involvement the TDRSS system disappears for instance..The "bucks" required to maintain the station are enormous...
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Joe. very little of ISS is cutting edge in its technology. somewhere at NASA's web sites you can find which state things were made in...the solar arrays are home grown. That of course does not mean that the US is the only country that makes them.
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Ultimately it's all down to politics in Washington DC.
If you think about it if the US cannot afford to sustain a small space station that's as close to the Earth as possible then there is no way they can afford a base on the Moon let alone Mars. ISS requires frequent resupply missions to keep it going, it's nowhere near self sustained. They haven't even got the dirty laundry issue cracked - how do you wash clothes in space ?
Personally I think ISS will still be there in 2025 and even then they'll be looking to extend its mission.
73 Trevor M5AKA
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Trevor .[email protected] wrote:
Ultimately it's all down to politics in Washington DC. Personally I think ISS will still be there in 2025 and even then they'll be looking to extend its mission.
Lost in this conversation is the fact that very soon we (US) will no longer have a way to get to the ISS -- with the retirement of the shuttle fleet... I have no hard data on the structural integrity of a thin steel body that alternates between extreme heat and cold multiples times each day for decades, but it seems highly improbable that the ISS would remain on orbit for so many years and remain a safe place for humans to hang out.
Don't forget that on orbit construction began in 1998 -- meaning the primary structure is older than my car and I drive a seriously tired old clunker! :-)
73 de Jeff, KE9V
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There is going to be commercial lift to ISS...
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