AMSAT adopts Use Policy for AMSAT mail lists
The AMSAT Board of Directors unanamously adopted an Acceptable Use Policy for the AMSAT Public Mailing Lists on January 5, 2010. This policy takes effect immediately and applies to all those using the AMSAT mailing lists.
The policy can be read below in text format or is available via a link on the front page of the amsat.org Web site or directly from this link http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/images/fck_images/AMSAT%20AUP.pdf
Following the October 2009 AMSAT Board meeting Gould Smith, WA4SXM AMSAT VP of User Services appointed a committe to develop a use policy for the mailing lists. The members of the committe did an outstanding job of putting together a document that is acceptable to all the committe members and was passed without change by the BoD. Thank you to the committee members: Stephen Belter, N9IP; Alan Biddle, WA4SCA ; Mark Hammond, N8MH; Samudra Haque, N3RDX ;and Paul Williamson,KB5MU.
The policy will be added to the AMSAT Web site and included as part of the process when applying to join any of the AMSAT mailing lists. ================================================================================ Acceptable Use Policy for the AMSAT Public Mailing Lists
Approved by the AMSAT BoD 5 January 2010
The AMSAT Bulletin Board (AMSAT-BB) public mailing list carries general AMSAT information and discussion. The purpose of this mailing list is to provide a forum for general discussion of any satellite-related topic. The Space Amateur Radio Experiment (SAREX) public mailing list contains information and discussion pertaining to amateur radio operation on manned space missions, including the Space Shuttle, Mir (formerly), and the International Space Station. The name is leftover from the Shuttle Amateur Radio Experiment (SAREX) aboard Space Shuttle flights. It is now mainly concerned with ARISS operations aboard the International Space Station. There are also regional AMSAT public mailing lists (e.g., AMSAT-DC, AMSAT-Florida, and AMSAT-NE) and numerous private mailing lists (e.g., Board of Directors, Officers, AO-51 operations, etc.). Anyone can read the messages posted on any of the public mailing lists, and many people from around the world do so. Our audience includes AMSAT members, board members, and officers. At any given time, the readers may also include amateur radio operators, shortwave listeners, minors, potential financial donors, potential launch providers, officials from other amateur radio and satellite organizations, officials from international space agencies, and equipment suppliers and manufacturers. Since the archives of the public mailing lists are available on the AMSAT website, the contents of individual messages are easily found using common search engines. Because of this wide readership, AMSAT insists that messages posted on its public mailing lists conform to this Acceptable Use Policy (AUP).
Acceptable Content We embrace diversity of opinions and values. In order to preserve a constructive environment, we do insist that messages contain appropriate content and are respectful of the members and readers of the list. All posts should include the author's first name and call sign, or full name if not currently licensed. In general, messages for the AMSAT mailing lists should be related to amateur radio satellites. Examples of on-topic posts include: * Announcements of general interest, including but not limited to AMSAT news, meetings, satellite availability, and DXpeditions. * Technical discussions, including the physics of space flight, modulation techniques, satellite design, RF path loss calculations, noise figure, etc. * Inquiries and suggestions about choosing equipment, learning operating techniques, and troubleshooting problems. * Discussion of AMSAT plans and policies in ways that foster better understanding of the opportunities, trade-offs, and limitations that AMSAT faces, and constructive suggestions for improvement. * Posting of amateur radio satellite-related equipment and software available for sale.
Unacceptable Content Strong disagreements on issues are inevitable, but the AMSAT mailing lists are not the place for exchanges which become spiteful, unproductive exchanges. If you must have a heated exchange, it should be conducted privately and not in public on a mailing list. We define unacceptable content as anything that is: * Illegal * Insulting, abusive, harassing, or threatening * Knowingly false or misrepresentative
Enforcement of this AUP Access to the AMSAT mailing lists is a privilege and not a right. While these rules cover most common situations, they cannot anticipate everything. Consequently AMSAT reserves the right to take any actions it deems appropriate to ensure these forums are not disrupted or abused. Violators of this policy may be subjected to manual moderation or have their ability to post messages suspended. Violators may or may not be warned prior to enforcement.
If you feel that you've been unfairly blocked from the list, you may appeal your situation in writing to: The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation Attention: AMSAT-BB 850 Sligo Avenue, Suite 600 Silver Spring, MD 20910
Your letter of appeal will be forwarded to the VP of User Services and the Director of Electronic Communications for consideration.
This is welcome and it took entirely too long. Its effectiveness will entirely be determined by enforcement: swift and sure.
73's Bob N4HY
On 1/14/2010 12:25 PM, Gould Smith wrote:
AMSAT adopts Use Policy for AMSAT mail lists
The AMSAT Board of Directors unanamously adopted an Acceptable Use Policy for the AMSAT Public Mailing Lists on January 5, 2010. This policy takes effect immediately and applies to all those using the AMSAT mailing lists.
The policy can be read below in text format or is available via a link on the front page of the amsat.org Web site or directly from this link http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/images/fck_images/AMSAT%20AUP.pdf
Following the October 2009 AMSAT Board meeting Gould Smith, WA4SXM AMSAT VP of User Services appointed a committe to develop a use policy for the mailing lists. The members of the committe did an outstanding job of putting together a document that is acceptable to all the committe members and was passed without change by the BoD. Thank you to the committee members: Stephen Belter, N9IP; Alan Biddle, WA4SCA ; Mark Hammond, N8MH; Samudra Haque, N3RDX ;and Paul Williamson,KB5MU.
The policy will be added to the AMSAT Web site and included as part of the process when applying to join any of the AMSAT mailing lists.
This is almost farcical. Unable to launch effective satellites and more or less flailing as an organization the board has now turned to a acceptable use policy which is so broad as to be useless...it boils down to "things we like are good and things we dont like are bad".
entertaining
Robert WB5MZO (All posts should include the author's first name and call sign, or full name if not currently licensed.) I will add "Life member"
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:11:41 -0500 From: rwmcgwier@gmail.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT adopts Acceptable Use Policy for mailing lists
This is welcome and it took entirely too long. Its effectiveness will entirely be determined by enforcement: swift and sure.
73's Bob N4HY
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Well please. Let me jump right in doing everything you tell me to do...
NOT
Signed,
On 1/15/2010 3:43 PM, Rocky Jones wrote:
This is almost farcical. Unable to launch effective satellites and more or less flailing as an organization the board has now turned to a acceptable use policy which is so broad as to be useless...it boils down to "things we like are good and things we dont like are bad".
entertaining
Robert WB5MZO (All posts should include the author's first name and call sign, or full name if not currently licensed.) I will add "Life member"
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:11:41 -0500 From: rwmcgwier@gmail.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT adopts Acceptable Use Policy for
mailing lists
This is welcome and it took entirely too long. Its effectiveness will entirely be determined by enforcement: swift and sure.
73's Bob N4HY
Bbo. so clever.
this is how the "leaders" of Amsat, you know the ones who somewhere in a discussion (and I see you reached this stage as well) start to tell everyone "none of this discussion is launching anything into space"... people blow fuses.
YOU personalized the discussion. Until your post, the discussion was about concepts...but "YOU" went into and made it a personal engagement.
it is along with the "nothing is helping us launch satellites" the last refugee of people trying to defend something that is essentially not defense able Have a great weekend...go out and do something...it will help that blood pressure.
Robert WB5MZO life member AMSAT ARRL
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 07:50:42 -0500 From: rwmcgwier@gmail.com To: orbitjet@hotmail.com CC: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT adopts Acceptable Use Policy for mailing lists
Well please. Let me jump right in doing everything you tell me to do...
NOT
Signed,
On 1/15/2010 3:43 PM, Rocky Jones wrote:
This is almost farcical. Unable to launch effective satellites and more or less flailing as an organization the board has now turned to a acceptable use policy which is so broad as to be useless...it boils down to "things we like are good and things we dont like are bad".
entertaining
Robert WB5MZO (All posts should include the author's first name and call sign, or full name if not currently licensed.) I will add "Life member"
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:11:41 -0500 From: rwmcgwier@gmail.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT adopts Acceptable Use Policy for
mailing lists
This is welcome and it took entirely too long. Its effectiveness will entirely be determined by enforcement: swift and sure.
73's Bob N4HY
_________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/
Because of life members like you, I can assure you I am not now and will not be in the future, a leader of AMSAT. I out of the game. I have not taken a call from an AMSAT leader in nearly two years. The only notifications I get are on the advisors list. So as a leader, I am next to useless since I have no role and am not actively seeking one. I want to do engineering should the need arise (but I am not holding my breath to tell you the truth). I have personally had all of the crap here I can tolerate as a volunteer leader. As for you, I would have long ago taken the pitiful excuse of a life membership donation you gave to AMSAT and returned it to you, with interest, and returned it to you.
Please list for us the positive contributions you have made to the organization since you gave it your dues ages ago.
Bob McGwier, N4HY Life Member AMSAT and ARRL
P.S. And by the way. I have done a few other minor things along the way in addition to giving these organizations less money than I spend on coffee in a year.
On 1/16/2010 8:35 AM, Rocky Jones wrote:
Bbo. so clever.
this is how the "leaders" of Amsat, you know the ones who somewhere in a discussion (and I see you reached this stage as well) start to tell everyone "none of this discussion is launching anything into space"... people blow fuses.
YOU personalized the discussion. Until your post, the discussion was about concepts...but "YOU" went into and made it a personal engagement.
it is along with the "nothing is helping us launch satellites" the last refugee of people trying to defend something that is essentially not defense able Have a great weekend...go out and do something...it will help that blood pressure.
Robert WB5MZO life member AMSAT ARRL
Bob
when it gets personal ("because of life members like you") that is when I get out of the discussion...and urge other people to as well. Go out enjoy the weekend, solder something do anything to blow down. I will. I will help...last pass for me. take the closing shot if you want it.
have a great Saturday...since coming home I try and I have embraced the line from the song "I am so glad I am standing here today".
take care make it a great day.
Robert WB5MZO life member AMSAT ARRL
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 08:44:45 -0500 From: rwmcgwier@gmail.com To: orbitjet@hotmail.com CC: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT adopts Acceptable Use Policy for mailing lists
Because of life members like you, I can assure you I am not now and will not be in the future, a leader of AMSAT. I out of the game. I have not taken a call from an AMSAT leader in nearly two years. The only notifications I get are on the advisors list. So as a leader, I am next to useless since I have no role and am not actively seeking one. I want to do engineering should the need arise (but I am not holding my breath to tell you the truth). I have personally had all of the crap here I can tolerate as a volunteer leader. As for you, I would have long ago taken the pitiful excuse of a life membership donation you gave to AMSAT and returned it to you, with interest, and returned it to you.
Please list for us the positive contributions you have made to the organization since you gave it your dues ages ago.
Bob McGwier, N4HY Life Member AMSAT and ARRL
P.S. And by the way. I have done a few other minor things along the way in addition to giving these organizations less money than I spend on coffee in a year.
On 1/16/2010 8:35 AM, Rocky Jones wrote:
Bbo. so clever.
this is how the "leaders" of Amsat, you know the ones who somewhere in a discussion (and I see you reached this stage as well) start to tell everyone "none of this discussion is launching anything into space"... people blow fuses.
YOU personalized the discussion. Until your post, the discussion was about concepts...but "YOU" went into and made it a personal engagement.
it is along with the "nothing is helping us launch satellites" the last refugee of people trying to defend something that is essentially not defense able Have a great weekend...go out and do something...it will help that blood pressure.
Robert WB5MZO life member AMSAT ARRL
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I have been the member of many E-Mail groups like this that start to censor, and it does have it's place. But then sometime a fully uncensored place is also needed to discuss things where stepping on someones toes you don't have to worry about being threatened about being removed from the list. So many of these other groups made a secondary list where these non PC or not approved discussions can take place.
I just made one for here is anyone feels like they want or need to use it.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Amsat-Uncensored/ ************* Idle-Tyme Visit Our Web Page To Learn All About This Incredible Timepiece! *The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com*
Rocky Jones wrote:
Bbo. so clever.
this is how the "leaders" of Amsat, you know the ones who somewhere in a discussion (and I see you reached this stage as well) start to tell everyone "none of this discussion is launching anything into space"... people blow fuses.
YOU personalized the discussion. Until your post, the discussion was about concepts...but "YOU" went into and made it a personal engagement.
it is along with the "nothing is helping us launch satellites" the last refugee of people trying to defend something that is essentially not defense able Have a great weekend...go out and do something...it will help that blood pressure.
Robert WB5MZO life member AMSAT ARRL
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 07:50:42 -0500 From: rwmcgwier@gmail.com To: orbitjet@hotmail.com CC: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT adopts Acceptable Use Policy for mailing lists
Well please. Let me jump right in doing everything you tell me to do...
NOT
Signed,
On 1/15/2010 3:43 PM, Rocky Jones wrote:
This is almost farcical. Unable to launch effective satellites and more or less flailing as an organization the board has now turned to a acceptable use policy which is so broad as to be useless...it boils down to "things we like are good and things we dont like are bad".
entertaining
Robert WB5MZO (All posts should include the author's first name and call sign, or full name if not currently licensed.) I will add "Life member"
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:11:41 -0500 From: rwmcgwier@gmail.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT adopts Acceptable Use Policy for
mailing lists
This is welcome and it took entirely too long. Its effectiveness will entirely be determined by enforcement: swift and sure.
73's Bob N4HY
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Dear Idle-Tyme (um...)
It seems I have to join the Yahoo group and agree to the terms of Yahoo in order to post and be a member. Furthermore, I imagine that the group also has a "owner" or "moderator" or "leader" with the authority and privis to remove members or moderate posts.
The term "irony" comes to mind.
73,
Mark N8MH
At 09:49 AM 1/16/2010 -0600, Idle-Tyme wrote:
I have been the member of many E-Mail groups like this that start to censor, and it does have it's place. But then sometime a fully uncensored place is also needed to discuss things where stepping on someones toes you don't have to worry about being threatened about being removed from the list. So many of these other groups made a secondary list where these non PC or not approved discussions can take place.
I just made one for here is anyone feels like they want or need to use it.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Amsat-Uncensored/
Idle-Tyme Visit Our Web Page To Learn All About This Incredible Timepiece! *The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com*
Rocky Jones wrote:
Bbo. so clever.
this is how the "leaders" of Amsat, you know the ones who somewhere in a discussion (and I see you reached this stage as well) start to tell everyone "none of this discussion is launching anything into space"... people blow fuses.
YOU personalized the discussion. Until your post, the discussion was about concepts...but "YOU" went into and made it a personal engagement.
it is along with the "nothing is helping us launch satellites" the last refugee of people trying to defend something that is essentially not defense able Have a great weekend...go out and do something...it will help that blood pressure.
Robert WB5MZO life member AMSAT ARRL
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 07:50:42 -0500 From: rwmcgwier@gmail.com To: orbitjet@hotmail.com CC: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT adopts Acceptable Use Policy for mailing lists
Well please. Let me jump right in doing everything you tell me to do...
NOT
Signed,
On 1/15/2010 3:43 PM, Rocky Jones wrote:
This is almost farcical. Unable to launch effective satellites and more or less flailing as an organization the board has now turned to a acceptable use policy which is so broad as to be useless...it boils down to "things we like are good and things we dont like are bad".
entertaining
Robert WB5MZO (All posts should include the author's first name and call sign, or full name if not currently licensed.) I will add "Life member"
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:11:41 -0500 From: rwmcgwier@gmail.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT adopts Acceptable Use Policy for
mailing lists
This is welcome and it took entirely too long. Its effectiveness will entirely be determined by enforcement: swift and sure.
73's Bob N4HY
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Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
Yes all that is true. Just like any other e mail list it has the possibilities of all that happening, but the intended use of it is so it DOES NOT HAPPEN. That is the whole and only reason for it's existence. That nothing will be censored.
Well maybe somethings,,, but that will be up to the members too if they want to read about get rich quick offers, or come and look at my porn video, or pills that make a certain part bigger. if the group wants them too so be it. ************* Idle-Tyme Visit Our Web Page To Learn All About This Incredible Timepiece! *The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com*
Mark L. Hammond wrote:
Dear Idle-Tyme (um...)
It seems I have to join the Yahoo group and agree to the terms of Yahoo in order to post and be a member. Furthermore, I imagine that the group also has a "owner" or "moderator" or "leader" with the authority and privis to remove members or moderate posts.
The term "irony" comes to mind.
73,
Mark N8MH
At 09:49 AM 1/16/2010 -0600, Idle-Tyme wrote:
I have been the member of many E-Mail groups like this that start to censor, and it does have it's place. But then sometime a fully uncensored place is also needed to discuss things where stepping on someones toes you don't have to worry about being threatened about being removed from the list. So many of these other groups made a secondary list where these non PC or not approved discussions can take place.
I just made one for here is anyone feels like they want or need to use it.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Amsat-Uncensored/
Idle-Tyme Visit Our Web Page To Learn All About This Incredible Timepiece! *The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com*
Rocky Jones wrote:
Bbo. so clever.
this is how the "leaders" of Amsat, you know the ones who somewhere in a discussion (and I see you reached this stage as well) start to tell everyone "none of this discussion is launching anything into space"... people blow fuses.
YOU personalized the discussion. Until your post, the discussion was about concepts...but "YOU" went into and made it a personal engagement.
it is along with the "nothing is helping us launch satellites" the last refugee of people trying to defend something that is essentially not defense able Have a great weekend...go out and do something...it will help that blood pressure.
Robert WB5MZO life member AMSAT ARRL
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 07:50:42 -0500 From: rwmcgwier@gmail.com To: orbitjet@hotmail.com CC: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT adopts Acceptable Use Policy for mailing lists
Well please. Let me jump right in doing everything you tell me to do...
NOT
Signed,
On 1/15/2010 3:43 PM, Rocky Jones wrote:
This is almost farcical. Unable to launch effective satellites and more or less flailing as an organization the board has now turned to a acceptable use policy which is so broad as to be useless...it boils down to "things we like are good and things we dont like are bad".
entertaining
Robert WB5MZO (All posts should include the author's first name and call sign, or full name if not currently licensed.) I will add "Life member"
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:11:41 -0500 From: rwmcgwier@gmail.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT adopts Acceptable Use Policy for
mailing lists
This is welcome and it took entirely too long. Its effectiveness will entirely be determined by enforcement: swift and sure.
73's Bob N4HY
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Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
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I-T
There were extensive discussions over the issues and possible resolutions of issues leading up the AUP. As part of the process of looking at alternatives, I made the point that inevitably an alternate venue would appear for those who are not comfortable with a degree of moderation. (I called it, mostly tongue-cheek, AMSAT-BS.) There are several Yahoo groups which formed this way. Thanks for stepping up and doing this for those who need it.
73s es TNX,
Alan WA4SCA
-----Original Message----- From: amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Idle-Tyme Sent: 16 January, 2010 09:50 To: Rocky Jones Cc: Amsat BB Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT adopts Acceptable Use Policy for mailing lists
I have been the member of many E-Mail groups like this that start to censor, and it does have it's place. But then sometime a fully uncensored place is also needed to discuss things where stepping on someones toes you don't have to worry about being threatened about being removed from the list. So many of these other groups made a secondary list where these non PC or not approved discussions can take place.
I just made one for here is anyone feels like they want or need to use it.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Amsat-Uncensored/ ************* Idle-Tyme Visit Our Web Page To Learn All About This Incredible Timepiece! *The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com*
Rocky Jones wrote:
Bbo. so clever.
this is how the "leaders" of Amsat, you know the ones who somewhere in a
discussion (and I see you reached this stage as well) start to tell everyone "none of this discussion is launching anything into space"... people blow fuses.
YOU personalized the discussion. Until your post, the discussion was
about concepts...but "YOU" went into and made it a personal engagement.
it is along with the "nothing is helping us launch satellites" the last
refugee of people trying to defend something that is essentially not defense able Have a great weekend...go out and do something...it will help that blood pressure.
Robert WB5MZO life member AMSAT ARRL
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 07:50:42 -0500 From: rwmcgwier@gmail.com To: orbitjet@hotmail.com CC: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT adopts Acceptable Use Policy for
mailing lists
Well please. Let me jump right in doing everything you tell me to do...
NOT
Signed,
On 1/15/2010 3:43 PM, Rocky Jones wrote:
This is almost farcical. Unable to launch effective satellites and more or less flailing as an organization the board has now turned to a acceptable use policy which is so broad as to be useless...it boils down to "things we like are good and things we dont like are bad".
entertaining
Robert WB5MZO (All posts should include the author's first name and call sign, or full name if not currently licensed.) I will add "Life member"
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:11:41 -0500 From: rwmcgwier@gmail.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT adopts Acceptable Use Policy for
mailing lists
This is welcome and it took entirely too long. Its effectiveness will entirely be determined by enforcement: swift and sure.
73's Bob N4HY
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Idle-Tyme wrote:
I have been the member of many E-Mail groups like this that start to censor, and it does have it's place. But then sometime a fully uncensored place is also needed to discuss things where stepping on someones toes you don't have to worry about being threatened about being removed from the list. So many of these other groups made a secondary list where these non PC or not approved discussions can take place.
I just made one for here is anyone feels like they want or need to use it.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Amsat-Uncensored/
Idle-Tyme Visit Our Web Page To Learn All About This Incredible Timepiece! *The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com*
By the way, The new AUP states the following:
All posts should include the author's first name and call sign, or full name if not currently licensed.
What's your name and callsign?
73, Drew KO4MA
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Rocky Jones