You're right: running the program under my Admin profile is not the same as "Run as Admin", and I'd forgotten to try that. Intermittent problems can be annoyingly slow to show themselves, but I'll go down that rabbit hole and start over. 73, Jim, ND9M
-----Original Message----- From: Roger Heindl [email protected] To: Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC [email protected] Sent: Tue, Dec 28, 2021 4:54 pm Subject: Re: [AMSAT-BB] Re: SatPC32 problem- Access is denied
In case it isn't the cable, have you tried running SatPC32 as administrator also? 73,AC9BT On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 12:55 AM Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC via AMSAT-BB [email protected] wrote:
I feel your pain, Larry. I have seen the very same thing happen on my end a bunch of times; it doesn't happen regularly, but it happens enough that I have to keep a close watch on SatPC32. I'm a full time RVer, so all of my operating is portable. When I operate from what I consider my home grid (EM70), it's generally not that big of a deal, but it's happened during roving trips too. If the truck is disconnected from the fifth wheel, I'll set up on the tail gate; otherwise, I'll use a small folding table from Wally World and set up on that. My IC-9700 is controlled usually by an Asus netbook but sometimes by an HP laptop; both are Windows 10. I've used a variety of cables, but for the last couple months have been using a Tripp Lite cable with ferrite chokes on both end. My thinking was that the problem is RFI related, so I've taken to keeping the laptop separated from the rig by as much distance as possible and in the opposite direction from the current satellite pass' general azimuth. After I started spacing the rig and laptop farther apart, I don't see the problem occur as much, but it still does occasionally. Most times, I discover SatPC32 has crashed because I hear my downlink signal "take off" and I start sounding like Donald Duck. A quick glance at the Tracking menu invariably shows that the Cat control has become disabled, i.e. "C+" has become "C-". My eyesight isn't what it used to be, so spotting that change gets a little tricky since the laptop is farther away from the rig. I get the "Access Denied" message when clicking the "X" too. Closing the program with Alt F -> Q and then restarting it usually does the trick, but sometimes I have to do a full laptop reboot as well as disconnect and reconnect the USB cable. One laptop has two USB ports and the other has three, and I've seen the same thing happen on all ports. (Thankfully, the port assignment doesn't change when I move the USB cable around, but I keep a watch on that too just in case.) So far, I've noticed these symptoms happen only on U/V birds, not V/U. Also, I've seen this happen regardless of when I'm using my User account or Admin account. I'm interested to see what you find out. I'll let you know if I figure something out. 73, Jim, ND9M
-----Original Message----- From: Larry Ryan [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, Dec 27, 2021 7:28 pm Subject: [AMSAT-BB] SatPC32 problem- Access is denied
This problem has occurred a few times during a pass. SatPC32 stops working (I can see its not updating the frequencies) and whenever I click the tone control (T0, T1) I get the message "Access is denied" and the Countdown window dissappears. If I click OK on the message popup, the window reappears. It gets worse;In order to restore operation meaning to get doppler control so I can make a sat QSO, I need to restart SatPC32 but when I click the X, I get the error message. I must click File, Quit. By this time, the pass is over. Restarting SatPC32 does restore normal operation. This problem is intermittent. Most of the time, SatPC32 works well with my IC-9700. The PC is running Win10. Do these symptoms point to a known issue or do I just reinstall everything?
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That is a really annoying problem. I have a 9700 and use it with both an HP laptop and an Asus notebook, both Windows 10. I’ve never (as of this writing, at least!) had the problem you’re both experiencing with SatPC32. The Tripp Lite cable is a really good idea, by the way. But here are two thoughts: 1) Grounding: is the 9700 grounded? It’s a really good idea to run a ground off the connector on the back of the rig. The problem that’s occurring looks like RFI. So grounding the 9700 could help and it’s a good idea anyway. :-)) 2) If the problem still occurs, consider having SatPC32 control the rig through the 9700’s Remote port using a CT-17 cable with the FTDI chipset. That’s what I use, and like I said, have not had the annoyance you’re experiencing. I have the foregoing arrangement purely by accident. It’s because I set up the SatPC32 scope function and had to move SatPC32’s rig control to the Remote port. I soon quit using the scope function but left SatPC32 to talk to the 9700 over the Remote port. Hope this might help. 73 and Happy New Year, RayKN2K
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On Tuesday, December 28, 2021, 3:31 PM, Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC via AMSAT-BB [email protected] wrote:
You're right: running the program under my Admin profile is not the same as "Run as Admin", and I'd forgotten to try that. Intermittent problems can be annoyingly slow to show themselves, but I'll go down that rabbit hole and start over. 73, Jim, ND9M
-----Original Message----- From: Roger Heindl [email protected] To: Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC [email protected] Sent: Tue, Dec 28, 2021 4:54 pm Subject: Re: [AMSAT-BB] Re: SatPC32 problem- Access is denied
In case it isn't the cable, have you tried running SatPC32 as administrator also? 73,AC9BT On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 12:55 AM Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC via AMSAT-BB [email protected] wrote:
I feel your pain, Larry. I have seen the very same thing happen on my end a bunch of times; it doesn't happen regularly, but it happens enough that I have to keep a close watch on SatPC32. I'm a full time RVer, so all of my operating is portable. When I operate from what I consider my home grid (EM70), it's generally not that big of a deal, but it's happened during roving trips too. If the truck is disconnected from the fifth wheel, I'll set up on the tail gate; otherwise, I'll use a small folding table from Wally World and set up on that. My IC-9700 is controlled usually by an Asus netbook but sometimes by an HP laptop; both are Windows 10. I've used a variety of cables, but for the last couple months have been using a Tripp Lite cable with ferrite chokes on both end. My thinking was that the problem is RFI related, so I've taken to keeping the laptop separated from the rig by as much distance as possible and in the opposite direction from the current satellite pass' general azimuth. After I started spacing the rig and laptop farther apart, I don't see the problem occur as much, but it still does occasionally. Most times, I discover SatPC32 has crashed because I hear my downlink signal "take off" and I start sounding like Donald Duck. A quick glance at the Tracking menu invariably shows that the Cat control has become disabled, i.e. "C+" has become "C-". My eyesight isn't what it used to be, so spotting that change gets a little tricky since the laptop is farther away from the rig. I get the "Access Denied" message when clicking the "X" too. Closing the program with Alt F -> Q and then restarting it usually does the trick, but sometimes I have to do a full laptop reboot as well as disconnect and reconnect the USB cable. One laptop has two USB ports and the other has three, and I've seen the same thing happen on all ports. (Thankfully, the port assignment doesn't change when I move the USB cable around, but I keep a watch on that too just in case.) So far, I've noticed these symptoms happen only on U/V birds, not V/U. Also, I've seen this happen regardless of when I'm using my User account or Admin account. I'm interested to see what you find out. I'll let you know if I figure something out. 73, Jim, ND9M
-----Original Message----- From: Larry Ryan [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, Dec 27, 2021 7:28 pm Subject: [AMSAT-BB] SatPC32 problem- Access is denied
This problem has occurred a few times during a pass. SatPC32 stops working (I can see its not updating the frequencies) and whenever I click the tone control (T0, T1) I get the message "Access is denied" and the Countdown window dissappears. If I click OK on the message popup, the window reappears. It gets worse;In order to restore operation meaning to get doppler control so I can make a sat QSO, I need to restart SatPC32 but when I click the X, I get the error message. I must click File, Quit. By this time, the pass is over. Restarting SatPC32 does restore normal operation. This problem is intermittent. Most of the time, SatPC32 works well with my IC-9700. The PC is running Win10. Do these symptoms point to a known issue or do I just reinstall everything?
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I have a similar problem with my 9700. I have a 9100 along with the 9700. The problem is only with the 9700. It also only happens here at my Florida home. The 9700 works flawlessly at my QTH in NJ It also works 100% when I use my 9700 for FD, and portable operations from the tailgate of my vehicle. The only time I experience SatPC32 drop out issues with my 9700 is just here at my winter home.
What happens is I notice I'm not doppler correcting, so I have to close SatPC32 and power cycle the 9700. This happens about 50% of the time and only while operating on linear sats. It's been an issue for about a year, I've owned the 9700 for about 2 years.It worked fine here for about a year. I even reloaded the PC's operating system when I upgraded to solid state drives. Problem remains. I swapped USB cables between the 9700 and 9100 and the problem follows the 9700. I do use a different rotor system here, and AlfaSpid controlled by a Green Heron RT-21, and PstRotator. Up north I'm using a Yaesu 5500 with a LVG box. I'm convinced it's something to do with the 9700 itself. This is sorta driving me crazy as I can't figure out what the problem is. I'm very interested in trying any suggestions from this thread...
73 Jeff kb2m
On 12/28/2021 3:31 PM, Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC via AMSAT-BB wrote:
You're right: running the program under my Admin profile is not the same as "Run as Admin", and I'd forgotten to try that. Intermittent problems can be annoyingly slow to show themselves, but I'll go down that rabbit hole and start over.
73,
Jim, ND9M
-----Original Message----- From: Roger Heindl [email protected] To: Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC [email protected] Sent: Tue, Dec 28, 2021 4:54 pm Subject: Re: [AMSAT-BB] Re: SatPC32 problem- Access is denied
In case it isn't the cable, have you tried running SatPC32 as administrator also?
73, AC9BT
On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 12:55 AM Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC via AMSAT-BB [email protected] wrote:
I feel your pain, Larry. I have seen the very same thing happen on my end a bunch of times; it doesn't happen regularly, but it happens enough that I have to keep a close watch on SatPC32. I'm a full time RVer, so all of my operating is portable.When I operate from what I consider my home grid (EM70), it's generally not that big of a deal, but it's happened during roving trips too. If the truck is disconnected from the fifth wheel, I'll set up on the tail gate; otherwise, I'll use a small folding table from Wally Worldand set up on that. My IC-9700 is controlled usually by an Asus netbook but sometimes by an HP laptop; both are Windows 10. I've used a variety of cables, but for the last couple months have been using a Tripp Lite cable with ferrite chokes on both end. My thinking was that the problem is RFI related, so I've taken to keeping the laptop separated from the rig by as much distance as possible and in the opposite direction from the current satellite pass' general azimuth. After I started spacing the rig and laptop farther apart, I don't see the problem occur as much, but it still does occasionally. Most times, I discover SatPC32 has crashed because I hear my downlink signal "take off" and I start sounding like Donald Duck. A quick glance at the Tracking menu invariably shows that the Cat control has become disabled, i.e. "C+" has become "C-". My eyesight isn't what it used to be, so spotting that change gets a little tricky since the laptop is farther away from the rig. I get the "Access Denied" message when clicking the "X" too. Closing the program with Alt F -> Q and then restarting it usually does the trick, but sometimes I have to do a full laptop reboot as well as disconnect and reconnect the USB cable. One laptop has two USB ports and the other has three, and I've seen the same thing happen on all ports. (Thankfully, the port assignment doesn't change when I move the USB cable around, but I keep a watch on that too just in case.) So far, I've noticed these symptoms happen only on U/V birds, not V/U. Also, I've seen this happen regardless of when I'm using my User account or Admin account. I'm interested to see what you find out. I'll let you know if I figure something out. 73, Jim, ND9M -----Original Message----- From: Larry Ryan <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, Dec 27, 2021 7:28 pm Subject: [AMSAT-BB] SatPC32 problem- Access is denied This problem has occurred a few times during a pass. SatPC32 stops working (I can see its not updating the frequencies) and whenever I click the tone control (T0, T1) I get the message "Access is denied" and the Countdown window dissappears. If I click OK on the message popup, the window reappears. It gets worse; In order to restore operation meaning to get doppler control so I can make a sat QSO, I need to restart SatPC32 but when I click the X, I get the error message. I must click File, Quit. By this time, the pass is over. Restarting SatPC32 does restore normal operation. This problem is intermittent. Most of the time, SatPC32 works well with my IC-9700. The PC is running Win10. Do these symptoms point to a known issue or do I just reinstall everything? ----------------------------------------------------------- Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org <http://amsat.org/>. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Acceptable Use and Privacy Policies available at https://www.amsat.org/about-amsat/ View archives of this mailing list at https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to amsat-bb-leave(a)amsat.org <http://amsat.org/> Manage all of your AMSAT-NA mailing list preferences at https://mailman.amsat.org ----------------------------------------------------------- Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org <http://amsat.org/>. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Acceptable Use and Privacy Policies available at https://www.amsat.org/about-amsat/ View archives of this mailing list at https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to amsat-bb-leave(a)amsat.org <http://amsat.org/> Manage all of your AMSAT-NA mailing list preferences at https://mailman.amsat.org
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Hi Jeff, How does the CAT control of the IC-9700 work on your two stations, via the CI-V port of the IC-9700 and an ICOM CAT cable or via the USB port of the iC-9700? 73s and Happy New Year
Erich, DK1TB
Am 28.12.2021 um 23:10 schrieb jeff griffin:
I have a similar problem with my 9700. I have a 9100 along with the 9700. The problem is only with the 9700. It also only happens here at my Florida home. The 9700 works flawlessly at my QTH in NJ It also works 100% when I use my 9700 for FD, and portable operations from the tailgate of my vehicle. The only time I experience SatPC32 drop out issues with my 9700 is just here at my winter home.
What happens is I notice I'm not doppler correcting, so I have to close SatPC32 and power cycle the 9700. This happens about 50% of the time and only while operating on linear sats. It's been an issue for about a year, I've owned the 9700 for about 2 years.It worked fine here for about a year. I even reloaded the PC's operating system when I upgraded to solid state drives. Problem remains. I swapped USB cables between the 9700 and 9100 and the problem follows the 9700. I do use a different rotor system here, and AlfaSpid controlled by a Green Heron RT-21, and PstRotator. Up north I'm using a Yaesu 5500 with a LVG box. I'm convinced it's something to do with the 9700 itself. This is sorta driving me crazy as I can't figure out what the problem is. I'm very interested in trying any suggestions from this thread...
73 Jeff kb2m
On 12/28/2021 3:31 PM, Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC via AMSAT-BB wrote:
You're right: running the program under my Admin profile is not the same as "Run as Admin", and I'd forgotten to try that. Intermittent problems can be annoyingly slow to show themselves, but I'll go down that rabbit hole and start over.
73,
Jim, ND9M
-----Original Message----- From: Roger Heindl [email protected] To: Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC [email protected] Sent: Tue, Dec 28, 2021 4:54 pm Subject: Re: [AMSAT-BB] Re: SatPC32 problem- Access is denied
In case it isn't the cable, have you tried running SatPC32 as administrator also?
73, AC9BT
On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 12:55 AM Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC via AMSAT-BB [email protected] wrote:
I feel your pain, Larry. I have seen the very same thing happen on my end a bunch of times; it doesn't happen regularly, but it happens enough that I have to keep a close watch on SatPC32. I'm a full time RVer, so all of my operating is portable.When I operate from what I consider my home grid (EM70), it's generally not that big of a deal, but it's happened during roving trips too. If the truck is disconnected from the fifth wheel, I'll set up on the tail gate; otherwise, I'll use a small folding table from Wally Worldand set up on that. My IC-9700 is controlled usually by an Asus netbook but sometimes by an HP laptop; both are Windows 10. I've used a variety of cables, but for the last couple months have been using a Tripp Lite cable with ferrite chokes on both end. My thinking was that the problem is RFI related, so I've taken to keeping the laptop separated from the rig by as much distance as possible and in the opposite direction from the current satellite pass' general azimuth. After I started spacing the rig and laptop farther apart, I don't see the problem occur as much, but it still does occasionally. Most times, I discover SatPC32 has crashed because I hear my downlink signal "take off" and I start sounding like Donald Duck. A quick glance at the Tracking menu invariably shows that the Cat control has become disabled, i.e. "C+" has become "C-". My eyesight isn't what it used to be, so spotting that change gets a little tricky since the laptop is farther away from the rig. I get the "Access Denied" message when clicking the "X" too. Closing the program with Alt F -> Q and then restarting it usually does the trick, but sometimes I have to do a full laptop reboot as well as disconnect and reconnect the USB cable. One laptop has two USB ports and the other has three, and I've seen the same thing happen on all ports. (Thankfully, the port assignment doesn't change when I move the USB cable around, but I keep a watch on that too just in case.) So far, I've noticed these symptoms happen only on U/V birds, not V/U. Also, I've seen this happen regardless of when I'm using my User account or Admin account. I'm interested to see what you find out. I'll let you know if I figure something out. 73, Jim, ND9M -----Original Message----- From: Larry Ryan <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, Dec 27, 2021 7:28 pm Subject: [AMSAT-BB] SatPC32 problem- Access is denied This problem has occurred a few times during a pass. SatPC32 stops working (I can see its not updating the frequencies) and whenever I click the tone control (T0, T1) I get the message "Access is denied" and the Countdown window dissappears. If I click OK on the message popup, the window reappears. It gets worse; In order to restore operation meaning to get doppler control so I can make a sat QSO, I need to restart SatPC32 but when I click the X, I get the error message. I must click File, Quit. By this time, the pass is over. Restarting SatPC32 does restore normal operation. This problem is intermittent. Most of the time, SatPC32 works well with my IC-9700. The PC is running Win10. Do these symptoms point to a known issue or do I just reinstall everything? ----------------------------------------------------------- Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org <http://amsat.org/>. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Acceptable Use and Privacy Policies available at https://www.amsat.org/about-amsat/ View archives of this mailing list at https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to amsat-bb-leave(a)amsat.org <http://amsat.org/> Manage all of your AMSAT-NA mailing list preferences at https://mailman.amsat.org ----------------------------------------------------------- Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org <http://amsat.org/>. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Acceptable Use and Privacy Policies available at https://www.amsat.org/about-amsat/ View archives of this mailing list at https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to amsat-bb-leave(a)amsat.org <http://amsat.org/> Manage all of your AMSAT-NA mailing list preferences at https://mailman.amsat.org
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Hi Jeff and Eric,I have experienced a similar problem. Perhaps not as frequently as you Jeff. I control the 9700 via the CI-V port.73Lynn Palmer
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On Wednesday, December 29, 2021, 1:20 AM, Erich Eichmann [email protected] wrote:
Hi Jeff, How does the CAT control of the IC-9700 work on your two stations, via the CI-V port of the IC-9700 and an ICOM CAT cable or via the USB port of the iC-9700? 73s and Happy New Year
Erich, DK1TB
Am 28.12.2021 um 23:10 schrieb jeff griffin:
I have a similar problem with my 9700. I have a 9100 along with the 9700. The problem is only with the 9700. It also only happens here at my Florida home. The 9700 works flawlessly at my QTH in NJ It also works 100% when I use my 9700 for FD, and portable operations from the tailgate of my vehicle. The only time I experience SatPC32 drop out issues with my 9700 is just here at my winter home.
What happens is I notice I'm not doppler correcting, so I have to close SatPC32 and power cycle the 9700. This happens about 50% of the time and only while operating on linear sats. It's been an issue for about a year, I've owned the 9700 for about 2 years.It worked fine here for about a year. I even reloaded the PC's operating system when I upgraded to solid state drives. Problem remains. I swapped USB cables between the 9700 and 9100 and the problem follows the 9700. I do use a different rotor system here, and AlfaSpid controlled by a Green Heron RT-21, and PstRotator. Up north I'm using a Yaesu 5500 with a LVG box. I'm convinced it's something to do with the 9700 itself. This is sorta driving me crazy as I can't figure out what the problem is. I'm very interested in trying any suggestions from this thread...
73 Jeff kb2m
On 12/28/2021 3:31 PM, Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC via AMSAT-BB wrote:
You're right: running the program under my Admin profile is not the same as "Run as Admin", and I'd forgotten to try that. Intermittent problems can be annoyingly slow to show themselves, but I'll go down that rabbit hole and start over. 73, Jim, ND9M
-----Original Message----- From: Roger Heindl [email protected] To: Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC [email protected] Sent: Tue, Dec 28, 2021 4:54 pm Subject: Re: [AMSAT-BB] Re: SatPC32 problem- Access is denied
In case it isn't the cable, have you tried running SatPC32 as administrator also? 73, AC9BT On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 12:55 AM Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC via AMSAT-BB [email protected] wrote:
I feel your pain, Larry. I have seen the very same thing happen on my end a bunch of times; it doesn't happen regularly, but it happens enough that I have to keep a close watch on SatPC32. I'm a full time RVer, so all of my operating is portable. When I operate from what I consider my home grid (EM70), it's generally not that big of a deal, but it's happened during roving trips too. If the truck is disconnected from the fifth wheel, I'll set up on the tail gate; otherwise, I'll use a small folding table from Wally World and set up on that. My IC-9700 is controlled usually by an Asus netbook but sometimes by an HP laptop; both are Windows 10. I've used a variety of cables, but for the last couple months have been using a Tripp Lite cable with ferrite chokes on both end. My thinking was that the problem is RFI related, so I've taken to keeping the laptop separated from the rig by as much distance as possible and in the opposite direction from the current satellite pass' general azimuth. After I started spacing the rig and laptop farther apart, I don't see the problem occur as much, but it still does occasionally. Most times, I discover SatPC32 has crashed because I hear my downlink signal "take off" and I start sounding like Donald Duck. A quick glance at the Tracking menu invariably shows that the Cat control has become disabled, i.e. "C+" has become "C-". My eyesight isn't what it used to be, so spotting that change gets a little tricky since the laptop is farther away from the rig. I get the "Access Denied" message when clicking the "X" too. Closing the program with Alt F -> Q and then restarting it usually does the trick, but sometimes I have to do a full laptop reboot as well as disconnect and reconnect the USB cable. One laptop has two USB ports and the other has three, and I've seen the same thing happen on all ports. (Thankfully, the port assignment doesn't change when I move the USB cable around, but I keep a watch on that too just in case.) So far, I've noticed these symptoms happen only on U/V birds, not V/U. Also, I've seen this happen regardless of when I'm using my User account or Admin account. I'm interested to see what you find out. I'll let you know if I figure something out. 73, Jim, ND9M
-----Original Message----- From: Larry Ryan ll[email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, Dec 27, 2021 7:28 pm Subject: [AMSAT-BB] SatPC32 problem- Access is denied
This problem has occurred a few times during a pass. SatPC32 stops working (I can see its not updating the frequencies) and whenever I click the tone control (T0, T1) I get the message "Access is denied" and the Countdown window dissappears. If I click OK on the message popup, the window reappears. It gets worse; In order to restore operation meaning to get doppler control so I can make a sat QSO, I need to restart SatPC32 but when I click the X, I get the error message. I must click File, Quit. By this time, the pass is over. Restarting SatPC32 does restore normal operation. This problem is intermittent. Most of the time, SatPC32 works well with my IC-9700. The PC is running Win10. Do these symptoms point to a known issue or do I just reinstall everything?
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Hi Erich, I'm using just the USB port on both the 9100 and the 9700.
73 and HNY
Jeff kb2m
On 12/29/2021 2:19 AM, Erich Eichmann wrote:
Hi Jeff, How does the CAT control of the IC-9700 work on your two stations, via the CI-V port of the IC-9700 and an ICOM CAT cable or via the USB port of the iC-9700? 73s and Happy New Year
Erich, DK1TB
Am 28.12.2021 um 23:10 schrieb jeff griffin:
I have a similar problem with my 9700. I have a 9100 along with the 9700. The problem is only with the 9700. It also only happens here at my Florida home. The 9700 works flawlessly at my QTH in NJ It also works 100% when I use my 9700 for FD, and portable operations from the tailgate of my vehicle. The only time I experience SatPC32 drop out issues with my 9700 is just here at my winter home.
What happens is I notice I'm not doppler correcting, so I have to close SatPC32 and power cycle the 9700. This happens about 50% of the time and only while operating on linear sats. It's been an issue for about a year, I've owned the 9700 for about 2 years.It worked fine here for about a year. I even reloaded the PC's operating system when I upgraded to solid state drives. Problem remains. I swapped USB cables between the 9700 and 9100 and the problem follows the 9700. I do use a different rotor system here, and AlfaSpid controlled by a Green Heron RT-21, and PstRotator. Up north I'm using a Yaesu 5500 with a LVG box. I'm convinced it's something to do with the 9700 itself. This is sorta driving me crazy as I can't figure out what the problem is. I'm very interested in trying any suggestions from this thread...
73 Jeff kb2m
On 12/28/2021 3:31 PM, Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC via AMSAT-BB wrote:
You're right: running the program under my Admin profile is not the same as "Run as Admin", and I'd forgotten to try that. Intermittent problems can be annoyingly slow to show themselves, but I'll go down that rabbit hole and start over.
73,
Jim, ND9M
-----Original Message----- From: Roger Heindl [email protected] To: Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC [email protected] Sent: Tue, Dec 28, 2021 4:54 pm Subject: Re: [AMSAT-BB] Re: SatPC32 problem- Access is denied
In case it isn't the cable, have you tried running SatPC32 as administrator also?
73, AC9BT
On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 12:55 AM Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC via AMSAT-BB [email protected] wrote:
I feel your pain, Larry. I have seen the very same thing happen on my end a bunch of times; it doesn't happen regularly, but it happens enough that I have to keep a close watch on SatPC32. I'm a full time RVer, so all of my operating is portable.When I operate from what I consider my home grid (EM70), it's generally not that big of a deal, but it's happened during roving trips too. If the truck is disconnected from the fifth wheel, I'll set up on the tail gate; otherwise, I'll use a small folding table from Wally Worldand set up on that. My IC-9700 is controlled usually by an Asus netbook but sometimes by an HP laptop; both are Windows 10. I've used a variety of cables, but for the last couple months have been using a Tripp Lite cable with ferrite chokes on both end. My thinking was that the problem is RFI related, so I've taken to keeping the laptop separated from the rig by as much distance as possible and in the opposite direction from the current satellite pass' general azimuth. After I started spacing the rig and laptop farther apart, I don't see the problem occur as much, but it still does occasionally. Most times, I discover SatPC32 has crashed because I hear my downlink signal "take off" and I start sounding like Donald Duck. A quick glance at the Tracking menu invariably shows that the Cat control has become disabled, i.e. "C+" has become "C-". My eyesight isn't what it used to be, so spotting that change gets a little tricky since the laptop is farther away from the rig. I get the "Access Denied" message when clicking the "X" too. Closing the program with Alt F -> Q and then restarting it usually does the trick, but sometimes I have to do a full laptop reboot as well as disconnect and reconnect the USB cable. One laptop has two USB ports and the other has three, and I've seen the same thing happen on all ports. (Thankfully, the port assignment doesn't change when I move the USB cable around, but I keep a watch on that too just in case.) So far, I've noticed these symptoms happen only on U/V birds, not V/U. Also, I've seen this happen regardless of when I'm using my User account or Admin account. I'm interested to see what you find out. I'll let you know if I figure something out. 73, Jim, ND9M -----Original Message----- From: Larry Ryan <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, Dec 27, 2021 7:28 pm Subject: [AMSAT-BB] SatPC32 problem- Access is denied This problem has occurred a few times during a pass. SatPC32 stops working (I can see its not updating the frequencies) and whenever I click the tone control (T0, T1) I get the message "Access is denied" and the Countdown window dissappears. If I click OK on the message popup, the window reappears. It gets worse; In order to restore operation meaning to get doppler control so I can make a sat QSO, I need to restart SatPC32 but when I click the X, I get the error message. I must click File, Quit. By this time, the pass is over. Restarting SatPC32 does restore normal operation. This problem is intermittent. Most of the time, SatPC32 works well with my IC-9700. The PC is running Win10. Do these symptoms point to a known issue or do I just reinstall everything? ----------------------------------------------------------- Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org <http://amsat.org/>. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Acceptable Use and Privacy Policies available at https://www.amsat.org/about-amsat/ View archives of this mailing list at https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to amsat-bb-leave(a)amsat.org <http://amsat.org/> Manage all of your AMSAT-NA mailing list preferences at https://mailman.amsat.org ----------------------------------------------------------- Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org <http://amsat.org/>. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Acceptable Use and Privacy Policies available at https://www.amsat.org/about-amsat/ View archives of this mailing list at https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to amsat-bb-leave(a)amsat.org <http://amsat.org/> Manage all of your AMSAT-NA mailing list preferences at https://mailman.amsat.org
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It happened occasionally for me. I tried adding more RFI chokes on the data cables but didn’t seem to make a difference. It seemed to happen most often when I updated Keps. I found that if I exited the program and restarted it would perform Doppler control correctly. Also if I left the radio and program running for a few hours, it would loose Doppler control when I went back to use the radio. Restarting SatPC32 always cleared the problem.
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On Wednesday, December 29, 2021, 6:07 AM, jeff griffin [email protected] wrote:
Hi Erich, I'm using just the USB port on both the 9100 and the 9700.
73 and HNY
Jeff kb2m
On 12/29/2021 2:19 AM, Erich Eichmann wrote:
Hi Jeff, How does the CAT control of the IC-9700 work on your two stations, via the CI-V port of the IC-9700 and an ICOM CAT cable or via the USB port of the iC-9700? 73s and Happy New Year
Erich, DK1TB
Am 28.12.2021 um 23:10 schrieb jeff griffin:
I have a similar problem with my 9700. I have a 9100 along with the 9700. The problem is only with the 9700. It also only happens here at my Florida home. The 9700 works flawlessly at my QTH in NJ It also works 100% when I use my 9700 for FD, and portable operations from the tailgate of my vehicle. The only time I experience SatPC32 drop out issues with my 9700 is just here at my winter home.
What happens is I notice I'm not doppler correcting, so I have to close SatPC32 and power cycle the 9700. This happens about 50% of the time and only while operating on linear sats. It's been an issue for about a year, I've owned the 9700 for about 2 years.It worked fine here for about a year. I even reloaded the PC's operating system when I upgraded to solid state drives. Problem remains. I swapped USB cables between the 9700 and 9100 and the problem follows the 9700. I do use a different rotor system here, and AlfaSpid controlled by a Green Heron RT-21, and PstRotator. Up north I'm using a Yaesu 5500 with a LVG box. I'm convinced it's something to do with the 9700 itself. This is sorta driving me crazy as I can't figure out what the problem is. I'm very interested in trying any suggestions from this thread...
73 Jeff kb2m
On 12/28/2021 3:31 PM, Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC via AMSAT-BB wrote:
You're right: running the program under my Admin profile is not the same as "Run as Admin", and I'd forgotten to try that. Intermittent problems can be annoyingly slow to show themselves, but I'll go down that rabbit hole and start over. 73, Jim, ND9M
-----Original Message----- From: Roger Heindl [email protected] To: Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC [email protected] Sent: Tue, Dec 28, 2021 4:54 pm Subject: Re: [AMSAT-BB] Re: SatPC32 problem- Access is denied
In case it isn't the cable, have you tried running SatPC32 as administrator also? 73, AC9BT On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 12:55 AM Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC via AMSAT-BB [email protected] wrote:
I feel your pain, Larry. I have seen the very same thing happen on my end a bunch of times; it doesn't happen regularly, but it happens enough that I have to keep a close watch on SatPC32. I'm a full time RVer, so all of my operating is portable. When I operate from what I consider my home grid (EM70), it's generally not that big of a deal, but it's happened during roving trips too. If the truck is disconnected from the fifth wheel, I'll set up on the tail gate; otherwise, I'll use a small folding table from Wally World and set up on that. My IC-9700 is controlled usually by an Asus netbook but sometimes by an HP laptop; both are Windows 10. I've used a variety of cables, but for the last couple months have been using a Tripp Lite cable with ferrite chokes on both end. My thinking was that the problem is RFI related, so I've taken to keeping the laptop separated from the rig by as much distance as possible and in the opposite direction from the current satellite pass' general azimuth. After I started spacing the rig and laptop farther apart, I don't see the problem occur as much, but it still does occasionally. Most times, I discover SatPC32 has crashed because I hear my downlink signal "take off" and I start sounding like Donald Duck. A quick glance at the Tracking menu invariably shows that the Cat control has become disabled, i.e. "C+" has become "C-". My eyesight isn't what it used to be, so spotting that change gets a little tricky since the laptop is farther away from the rig. I get the "Access Denied" message when clicking the "X" too. Closing the program with Alt F -> Q and then restarting it usually does the trick, but sometimes I have to do a full laptop reboot as well as disconnect and reconnect the USB cable. One laptop has two USB ports and the other has three, and I've seen the same thing happen on all ports. (Thankfully, the port assignment doesn't change when I move the USB cable around, but I keep a watch on that too just in case.) So far, I've noticed these symptoms happen only on U/V birds, not V/U. Also, I've seen this happen regardless of when I'm using my User account or Admin account. I'm interested to see what you find out. I'll let you know if I figure something out. 73, Jim, ND9M
-----Original Message----- From: Larry Ryan [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, Dec 27, 2021 7:28 pm Subject: [AMSAT-BB] SatPC32 problem- Access is denied
This problem has occurred a few times during a pass. SatPC32 stops working (I can see its not updating the frequencies) and whenever I click the tone control (T0, T1) I get the message "Access is denied" and the Countdown window dissappears. If I click OK on the message popup, the window reappears. It gets worse; In order to restore operation meaning to get doppler control so I can make a sat QSO, I need to restart SatPC32 but when I click the X, I get the error message. I must click File, Quit. By this time, the pass is over. Restarting SatPC32 does restore normal operation. This problem is intermittent. Most of the time, SatPC32 works well with my IC-9700. The PC is running Win10. Do these symptoms point to a known issue or do I just reinstall everything?
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By chance have you all turned off the USB Power Management features on the computer to see if that resolves the issue?
How to can be found at https://www.hamoperator.com/Fusion/FusionFiles/K9EQ-Fusion-PDF-0023.pdf
Peter, 2M0SQL
On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 at 16:22, Lynn Palmer via AMSAT-BB [email protected] wrote:
It happened occasionally for me. I tried adding more RFI chokes on the data cables but didn’t seem to make a difference. It seemed to happen most often when I updated Keps. I found that if I exited the program and restarted it would perform Doppler control correctly. Also if I left the radio and program running for a few hours, it would loose Doppler control when I went back to use the radio. Restarting SatPC32 always cleared the problem.
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On Wednesday, December 29, 2021, 6:07 AM, jeff griffin [email protected] wrote:
Hi Erich, I'm using just the USB port on both the 9100 and the 9700.
73 and HNY
Jeff kb2m
On 12/29/2021 2:19 AM, Erich Eichmann wrote:
Hi Jeff, How does the CAT control of the IC-9700 work on your two stations, via the CI-V port of the IC-9700 and an ICOM CAT cable or via the USB port of the iC-9700? 73s and Happy New Year
Erich, DK1TB
Am 28.12.2021 um 23:10 schrieb jeff griffin:
I have a similar problem with my 9700. I have a 9100 along with the 9700. The problem is only with the 9700. It also only happens here at my Florida home. The 9700 works flawlessly at my QTH in NJ It also works 100% when I use my 9700 for FD, and portable operations from the tailgate of my vehicle. The only time I experience SatPC32 drop out issues with my 9700 is just here at my winter home.
What happens is I notice I'm not doppler correcting, so I have to close SatPC32 and power cycle the 9700. This happens about 50% of the time and only while operating on linear sats. It's been an issue for about a year, I've owned the 9700 for about 2 years.It worked fine here for about a year. I even reloaded the PC's operating system when I upgraded to solid state drives. Problem remains. I swapped USB cables between the 9700 and 9100 and the problem follows the 9700. I do use a different rotor system here, and AlfaSpid controlled by a Green Heron RT-21, and PstRotator. Up north I'm using a Yaesu 5500 with a LVG box. I'm convinced it's something to do with the 9700 itself. This is sorta driving me crazy as I can't figure out what the problem is. I'm very interested in trying any suggestions from this thread...
73 Jeff kb2m
On 12/28/2021 3:31 PM, Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC via AMSAT-BB wrote:
You're right: running the program under my Admin profile is not the same as "Run as Admin", and I'd forgotten to try that. Intermittent problems can be annoyingly slow to show themselves, but I'll go down that rabbit hole and start over.
73,
Jim, ND9M
-----Original Message----- From: Roger Heindl [email protected] To: Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC [email protected] Sent: Tue, Dec 28, 2021 4:54 pm Subject: Re: [AMSAT-BB] Re: SatPC32 problem- Access is denied
In case it isn't the cable, have you tried running SatPC32 as administrator also?
73, AC9BT
On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 12:55 AM Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC via AMSAT-BB [email protected] wrote:
I feel your pain, Larry. I have seen the very same thing happen on my end a bunch of times; it doesn't happen regularly, but it happens enough that I have to keep a close watch on SatPC32. I'm a full time RVer, so all of my operating is portable. When I operate from what I consider my home grid (EM70), it's generally not that big of a deal, but it's happened during roving trips too.
If the truck is disconnected from the fifth wheel, I'll set up on the tail gate; otherwise, I'll use a small folding table from Wally World and set up on that. My IC-9700 is controlled usually by an Asus netbook but sometimes by an HP laptop; both are Windows 10. I've used a variety of cables, but for the last couple months have been using a Tripp Lite cable with ferrite chokes on both end.
My thinking was that the problem is RFI related, so I've taken to keeping the laptop separated from the rig by as much distance as possible and in the opposite direction from the current satellite pass' general azimuth. After I started spacing the rig and laptop farther apart, I don't see the problem occur as much, but it still does occasionally.
Most times, I discover SatPC32 has crashed because I hear my downlink signal "take off" and I start sounding like Donald Duck. A quick glance at the Tracking menu invariably shows that the Cat control has become disabled, i.e. "C+" has become "C-". My eyesight isn't what it used to be, so spotting that change gets a little tricky since the laptop is farther away from the rig. I get the "Access Denied" message when clicking the "X" too. Closing the program with Alt F -> Q and then restarting it usually does the trick, but sometimes I have to do a full laptop reboot as well as disconnect and reconnect the USB cable. One laptop has two USB ports and the other has three, and I've seen the same thing happen on all ports. (Thankfully, the port assignment doesn't change when I move the USB cable around, but I keep a watch on that too just in case.)
So far, I've noticed these symptoms happen only on U/V birds, not V/U. Also, I've seen this happen regardless of when I'm using my User account or Admin account.
I'm interested to see what you find out. I'll let you know if I figure something out.
73,
Jim, ND9M
-----Original Message----- From: Larry Ryan [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, Dec 27, 2021 7:28 pm Subject: [AMSAT-BB] SatPC32 problem- Access is denied
This problem has occurred a few times during a pass. SatPC32 stops working (I can see its not updating the frequencies) and whenever I click the tone control (T0, T1) I get the message "Access is denied" and the Countdown window dissappears. If I click OK on the message popup, the window reappears. It gets worse; In order to restore operation meaning to get doppler control so I can make a sat QSO, I need to restart SatPC32 but when I click the X, I get the error message. I must click File, Quit. By this time, the pass is over. Restarting SatPC32 does restore normal operation. This problem is intermittent. Most of the time, SatPC32 works well with my IC-9700. The PC is running Win10. Do these symptoms point to a known issue or do I just reinstall everything?
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No I haven’t. It’ll be quite awhile until I can try anything. We’ve sold our home and moving to Florida. I’m in radio blackout mode for the duration.
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On Wednesday, December 29, 2021, 10:28 AM, Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL) [email protected] wrote:
By chance have you all turned off the USB Power Management features on the computer to see if that resolves the issue?
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On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 at 16:22, Lynn Palmer via AMSAT-BB [email protected] wrote:
It happened occasionally for me. I tried adding more RFI chokes on the data cables but didn’t seem to make a difference. It seemed to happen most often when I updated Keps. I found that if I exited the program and restarted it would perform Doppler control correctly. Also if I left the radio and program running for a few hours, it would loose Doppler control when I went back to use the radio. Restarting SatPC32 always cleared the problem.
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On Wednesday, December 29, 2021, 6:07 AM, jeff griffin [email protected] wrote:
Hi Erich, I'm using just the USB port on both the 9100 and the 9700.
73 and HNY
Jeff kb2m
On 12/29/2021 2:19 AM, Erich Eichmann wrote:
Hi Jeff, How does the CAT control of the IC-9700 work on your two stations, via the CI-V port of the IC-9700 and an ICOM CAT cable or via the USB port of the iC-9700? 73s and Happy New Year
Erich, DK1TB
Am 28.12.2021 um 23:10 schrieb jeff griffin:
I have a similar problem with my 9700. I have a 9100 along with the 9700. The problem is only with the 9700. It also only happens here at my Florida home. The 9700 works flawlessly at my QTH in NJ It also works 100% when I use my 9700 for FD, and portable operations from the tailgate of my vehicle. The only time I experience SatPC32 drop out issues with my 9700 is just here at my winter home.
What happens is I notice I'm not doppler correcting, so I have to close SatPC32 and power cycle the 9700. This happens about 50% of the time and only while operating on linear sats. It's been an issue for about a year, I've owned the 9700 for about 2 years.It worked fine here for about a year. I even reloaded the PC's operating system when I upgraded to solid state drives. Problem remains. I swapped USB cables between the 9700 and 9100 and the problem follows the 9700. I do use a different rotor system here, and AlfaSpid controlled by a Green Heron RT-21, and PstRotator. Up north I'm using a Yaesu 5500 with a LVG box. I'm convinced it's something to do with the 9700 itself. This is sorta driving me crazy as I can't figure out what the problem is. I'm very interested in trying any suggestions from this thread...
73 Jeff kb2m
On 12/28/2021 3:31 PM, Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC via AMSAT-BB wrote:
You're right: running the program under my Admin profile is not the same as "Run as Admin", and I'd forgotten to try that. Intermittent problems can be annoyingly slow to show themselves, but I'll go down that rabbit hole and start over.
73,
Jim, ND9M
-----Original Message----- From: Roger Heindl [email protected] To: Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC [email protected] Sent: Tue, Dec 28, 2021 4:54 pm Subject: Re: [AMSAT-BB] Re: SatPC32 problem- Access is denied
In case it isn't the cable, have you tried running SatPC32 as administrator also?
73, AC9BT
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I feel your pain, Larry. I have seen the very same thing happen on my end a bunch of times; it doesn't happen regularly, but it happens enough that I have to keep a close watch on SatPC32. I'm a full time RVer, so all of my operating is portable. When I operate from what I consider my home grid (EM70), it's generally not that big of a deal, but it's happened during roving trips too.
If the truck is disconnected from the fifth wheel, I'll set up on the tail gate; otherwise, I'll use a small folding table from Wally World and set up on that. My IC-9700 is controlled usually by an Asus netbook but sometimes by an HP laptop; both are Windows 10. I've used a variety of cables, but for the last couple months have been using a Tripp Lite cable with ferrite chokes on both end.
My thinking was that the problem is RFI related, so I've taken to keeping the laptop separated from the rig by as much distance as possible and in the opposite direction from the current satellite pass' general azimuth. After I started spacing the rig and laptop farther apart, I don't see the problem occur as much, but it still does occasionally.
Most times, I discover SatPC32 has crashed because I hear my downlink signal "take off" and I start sounding like Donald Duck. A quick glance at the Tracking menu invariably shows that the Cat control has become disabled, i.e. "C+" has become "C-". My eyesight isn't what it used to be, so spotting that change gets a little tricky since the laptop is farther away from the rig. I get the "Access Denied" message when clicking the "X" too. Closing the program with Alt F -> Q and then restarting it usually does the trick, but sometimes I have to do a full laptop reboot as well as disconnect and reconnect the USB cable. One laptop has two USB ports and the other has three, and I've seen the same thing happen on all ports. (Thankfully, the port assignment doesn't change when I move the USB cable around, but I keep a watch on that too just in case.)
So far, I've noticed these symptoms happen only on U/V birds, not V/U. Also, I've seen this happen regardless of when I'm using my User account or Admin account.
I'm interested to see what you find out. I'll let you know if I figure something out.
73,
Jim, ND9M
-----Original Message----- From: Larry Ryan [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, Dec 27, 2021 7:28 pm Subject: [AMSAT-BB] SatPC32 problem- Access is denied
This problem has occurred a few times during a pass. SatPC32 stops working (I can see its not updating the frequencies) and whenever I click the tone control (T0, T1) I get the message "Access is denied" and the Countdown window dissappears. If I click OK on the message popup, the window reappears. It gets worse; In order to restore operation meaning to get doppler control so I can make a sat QSO, I need to restart SatPC32 but when I click the X, I get the error message. I must click File, Quit. By this time, the pass is over. Restarting SatPC32 does restore normal operation. This problem is intermittent. Most of the time, SatPC32 works well with my IC-9700. The PC is running Win10. Do these symptoms point to a known issue or do I just reinstall everything?
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Hi Peter. Yes I have the USB power saver feature turned off. I just checked to make sure. Also in my case anyway it doesn't happen with the 9100, just the 9700, and when I swap USB cables the problem follows the 9700.
73 Jeff kb2m
On 12/29/2021 11:27 AM, Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL) wrote:
By chance have you all turned off the USB Power Management features on the computer to see if that resolves the issue?
How to can be found at https://www.hamoperator.com/Fusion/FusionFiles/K9EQ-Fusion-PDF-0023.pdf
Peter, 2M0SQL
On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 at 16:22, Lynn Palmer via AMSAT-BB [email protected] wrote:
It happened occasionally for me. I tried adding more RFI chokes on the data cables but didn’t seem to make a difference. It seemed to happen most often when I updated Keps. I found that if I exited the program and restarted it would perform Doppler control correctly. Also if I left the radio and program running for a few hours, it would loose Doppler control when I went back to use the radio. Restarting SatPC32 always cleared the problem.
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On Wednesday, December 29, 2021, 6:07 AM, jeff griffin [email protected] wrote:
Hi Erich, I'm using just the USB port on both the 9100 and the 9700.
73 and HNY
Jeff kb2m
On 12/29/2021 2:19 AM, Erich Eichmann wrote:
Hi Jeff, How does the CAT control of the IC-9700 work on your two stations, via the CI-V port of the IC-9700 and an ICOM CAT cable or via the USB port of the iC-9700? 73s and Happy New Year
Erich, DK1TB
Am 28.12.2021 um 23:10 schrieb jeff griffin:
I have a similar problem with my 9700. I have a 9100 along with the 9700. The problem is only with the 9700. It also only happens here at my Florida home. The 9700 works flawlessly at my QTH in NJ It also works 100% when I use my 9700 for FD, and portable operations from the tailgate of my vehicle. The only time I experience SatPC32 drop out issues with my 9700 is just here at my winter home.
What happens is I notice I'm not doppler correcting, so I have to close SatPC32 and power cycle the 9700. This happens about 50% of the time and only while operating on linear sats. It's been an issue for about a year, I've owned the 9700 for about 2 years.It worked fine here for about a year. I even reloaded the PC's operating system when I upgraded to solid state drives. Problem remains. I swapped USB cables between the 9700 and 9100 and the problem follows the 9700. I do use a different rotor system here, and AlfaSpid controlled by a Green Heron RT-21, and PstRotator. Up north I'm using a Yaesu 5500 with a LVG box. I'm convinced it's something to do with the 9700 itself. This is sorta driving me crazy as I can't figure out what the problem is. I'm very interested in trying any suggestions from this thread...
73 Jeff kb2m
On 12/28/2021 3:31 PM, Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC via AMSAT-BB wrote:
You're right: running the program under my Admin profile is not the same as "Run as Admin", and I'd forgotten to try that. Intermittent problems can be annoyingly slow to show themselves, but I'll go down that rabbit hole and start over.
73,
Jim, ND9M
-----Original Message----- From: Roger Heindl [email protected] To: Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC [email protected] Sent: Tue, Dec 28, 2021 4:54 pm Subject: Re: [AMSAT-BB] Re: SatPC32 problem- Access is denied
In case it isn't the cable, have you tried running SatPC32 as administrator also?
73, AC9BT
On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 12:55 AM Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC via AMSAT-BB [email protected] wrote:
I feel your pain, Larry. I have seen the very same thing happen on my end a bunch of times; it doesn't happen regularly, but it happens enough that I have to keep a close watch on SatPC32. I'm a full time RVer, so all of my operating is portable. When I operate from what I consider my home grid (EM70), it's generally not that big of a deal, but it's happened during roving trips too.
If the truck is disconnected from the fifth wheel, I'll set up on the tail gate; otherwise, I'll use a small folding table from Wally World and set up on that. My IC-9700 is controlled usually by an Asus netbook but sometimes by an HP laptop; both are Windows 10. I've used a variety of cables, but for the last couple months have been using a Tripp Lite cable with ferrite chokes on both end.
My thinking was that the problem is RFI related, so I've taken to keeping the laptop separated from the rig by as much distance as possible and in the opposite direction from the current satellite pass' general azimuth. After I started spacing the rig and laptop farther apart, I don't see the problem occur as much, but it still does occasionally.
Most times, I discover SatPC32 has crashed because I hear my downlink signal "take off" and I start sounding like Donald Duck. A quick glance at the Tracking menu invariably shows that the Cat control has become disabled, i.e. "C+" has become "C-". My eyesight isn't what it used to be, so spotting that change gets a little tricky since the laptop is farther away from the rig. I get the "Access Denied" message when clicking the "X" too. Closing the program with Alt F -> Q and then restarting it usually does the trick, but sometimes I have to do a full laptop reboot as well as disconnect and reconnect the USB cable. One laptop has two USB ports and the other has three, and I've seen the same thing happen on all ports. (Thankfully, the port assignment doesn't change when I move the USB cable around, but I keep a watch on that too just in case.)
So far, I've noticed these symptoms happen only on U/V birds, not V/U. Also, I've seen this happen regardless of when I'm using my User account or Admin account.
I'm interested to see what you find out. I'll let you know if I figure something out.
73,
Jim, ND9M
-----Original Message----- From: Larry Ryan [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, Dec 27, 2021 7:28 pm Subject: [AMSAT-BB] SatPC32 problem- Access is denied
This problem has occurred a few times during a pass. SatPC32 stops working (I can see its not updating the frequencies) and whenever I click the tone control (T0, T1) I get the message "Access is denied" and the Countdown window dissappears. If I click OK on the message popup, the window reappears. It gets worse; In order to restore operation meaning to get doppler control so I can make a sat QSO, I need to restart SatPC32 but when I click the X, I get the error message. I must click File, Quit. By this time, the pass is over. Restarting SatPC32 does restore normal operation. This problem is intermittent. Most of the time, SatPC32 works well with my IC-9700. The PC is running Win10. Do these symptoms point to a known issue or do I just reinstall everything?
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I fixed my doppler frequency issues with my 9700. What I had to do is run PstRotator as a standalone APP to control the rotor, and use SatPC32 to control just the radio. What is strange is that the tracker , sat, SatPC32, function used to work flawlessly in PstRotator until about a year ago. So somewhere during the time I was up north for the summer the PstRotator program was changed and the function doesn't work reliably anymore. But it does work with my 9100. Anyway I'm going to run both radio's with the separate rotor and radio APP's. It's a little inconvenient, but not a big deal to do so. I also posted this issue to the PstRotator site and received no reply's.
73 Jeff kb2m
On 12/28/2021 5:10 PM, jeff griffin wrote:
I have a similar problem with my 9700. I have a 9100 along with the 9700. The problem is only with the 9700. It also only happens here at my Florida home. The 9700 works flawlessly at my QTH in NJ It also works 100% when I use my 9700 for FD, and portable operations from the tailgate of my vehicle. The only time I experience SatPC32 drop out issues with my 9700 is just here at my winter home.
What happens is I notice I'm not doppler correcting, so I have to close SatPC32 and power cycle the 9700. This happens about 50% of the time and only while operating on linear sats. It's been an issue for about a year, I've owned the 9700 for about 2 years.It worked fine here for about a year. I even reloaded the PC's operating system when I upgraded to solid state drives. Problem remains. I swapped USB cables between the 9700 and 9100 and the problem follows the 9700. I do use a different rotor system here, and AlfaSpid controlled by a Green Heron RT-21, and PstRotator. Up north I'm using a Yaesu 5500 with a LVG box. I'm convinced it's something to do with the 9700 itself. This is sorta driving me crazy as I can't figure out what the problem is. I'm very interested in trying any suggestions from this thread...
73 Jeff kb2m
On 12/28/2021 3:31 PM, Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC via AMSAT-BB wrote:
You're right: running the program under my Admin profile is not the same as "Run as Admin", and I'd forgotten to try that. Intermittent problems can be annoyingly slow to show themselves, but I'll go down that rabbit hole and start over.
73,
Jim, ND9M
-----Original Message----- From: Roger Heindl [email protected] To: Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC [email protected] Sent: Tue, Dec 28, 2021 4:54 pm Subject: Re: [AMSAT-BB] Re: SatPC32 problem- Access is denied
In case it isn't the cable, have you tried running SatPC32 as administrator also?
73, AC9BT
On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 12:55 AM Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC via AMSAT-BB [email protected] wrote:
I feel your pain, Larry. I have seen the very same thing happen on my end a bunch of times; it doesn't happen regularly, but it happens enough that I have to keep a close watch on SatPC32. I'm a full time RVer, so all of my operating is portable.When I operate from what I consider my home grid (EM70), it's generally not that big of a deal, but it's happened during roving trips too. If the truck is disconnected from the fifth wheel, I'll set up on the tail gate; otherwise, I'll use a small folding table from Wally Worldand set up on that. My IC-9700 is controlled usually by an Asus netbook but sometimes by an HP laptop; both are Windows 10. I've used a variety of cables, but for the last couple months have been using a Tripp Lite cable with ferrite chokes on both end. My thinking was that the problem is RFI related, so I've taken to keeping the laptop separated from the rig by as much distance as possible and in the opposite direction from the current satellite pass' general azimuth. After I started spacing the rig and laptop farther apart, I don't see the problem occur as much, but it still does occasionally. Most times, I discover SatPC32 has crashed because I hear my downlink signal "take off" and I start sounding like Donald Duck. A quick glance at the Tracking menu invariably shows that the Cat control has become disabled, i.e. "C+" has become "C-". My eyesight isn't what it used to be, so spotting that change gets a little tricky since the laptop is farther away from the rig. I get the "Access Denied" message when clicking the "X" too. Closing the program with Alt F -> Q and then restarting it usually does the trick, but sometimes I have to do a full laptop reboot as well as disconnect and reconnect the USB cable. One laptop has two USB ports and the other has three, and I've seen the same thing happen on all ports. (Thankfully, the port assignment doesn't change when I move the USB cable around, but I keep a watch on that too just in case.) So far, I've noticed these symptoms happen only on U/V birds, not V/U. Also, I've seen this happen regardless of when I'm using my User account or Admin account. I'm interested to see what you find out. I'll let you know if I figure something out. 73, Jim, ND9M -----Original Message----- From: Larry Ryan <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, Dec 27, 2021 7:28 pm Subject: [AMSAT-BB] SatPC32 problem- Access is denied This problem has occurred a few times during a pass. SatPC32 stops working (I can see its not updating the frequencies) and whenever I click the tone control (T0, T1) I get the message "Access is denied" and the Countdown window dissappears. If I click OK on the message popup, the window reappears. It gets worse; In order to restore operation meaning to get doppler control so I can make a sat QSO, I need to restart SatPC32 but when I click the X, I get the error message. I must click File, Quit. By this time, the pass is over. Restarting SatPC32 does restore normal operation. This problem is intermittent. Most of the time, SatPC32 works well with my IC-9700. The PC is running Win10. Do these symptoms point to a known issue or do I just reinstall everything? ----------------------------------------------------------- Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org <http://amsat.org/>. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Acceptable Use and Privacy Policies available at https://www.amsat.org/about-amsat/ View archives of this mailing list at https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to amsat-bb-leave(a)amsat.org <http://amsat.org/> Manage all of your AMSAT-NA mailing list preferences at https://mailman.amsat.org ----------------------------------------------------------- Sent via AMSAT-BB(a)amsat.org <http://amsat.org/>. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Acceptable Use and Privacy Policies available at https://www.amsat.org/about-amsat/ View archives of this mailing list at https://mailman.amsat.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to amsat-bb-leave(a)amsat.org <http://amsat.org/> Manage all of your AMSAT-NA mailing list preferences at https://mailman.amsat.org
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