Hi Joel and all
-This is a timely question for me. Yesterday I organized and ran (with the help of Wayne-W9AE) a AMSAT table at a local hamfest. I had the opportunity to meet many local hams both satellite ops and the curious. I extolled the virtues of AMSAT and the satellite community in general. A few points I noticed as an undercurrent in some of the conversations. We hams are generally a frugal bunch and in some cases just plain cheap. I had several antennas on display as well as several pictures, one was of an astronaut on a EVA installing one of our antennas on the outside of the space station. Some of the questions went like this, one guy asked, "do you have to belong to AMSAT to operate satellites?", can I get this software (Satpc32) free on line?" "are these books available any where else?" My response to these and similar queries was, "see this picture?" what do you think the shipping cost is?" "What we do, is rocket science, and rocket science is not cheap". How many active satellite operators do not belong to AMSAT? How many use pirated tracking programs. How many do not contribute "something" to AMSAT. Maybe some aspect of of AMSAT ticks you off, so you cut the cord. I'm sure some part of the government ticks you off, you don't move to Canada. In order for AMSAT and our efforts to succeed it takes money, and yes probably lots of it. This event was a learning process for me and in the future I hope to hone my abilities and create more dues paying and contributing members. Finally- "this is rocket science and rocket science is not cheap.
73 Bob W7LRD Washington State AMSAT area coordinator
----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Black" [email protected] To: "AMSAT" [email protected] Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2010 6:40:33 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [amsat-bb] Membership Benefits
AMSAT-BB,
I realize what I'm going to get by asking this... If you were giving a presentation to amateur radio operators who know little or nothing of AMSAT, what would you list as some of the benefits of being a member of AMSAT? What would be the single most important reason?
73, Joel, W4JBB _______________________________________________ Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
Let's try it off the cuff...
AMSAT is the central collection point for current satellite status, future technological development, international lobbying efforts, informational resources, contact coordination, information dissemination, etc.... (forgot "debate")
Without AMSAT and its BB reflector, a potential or existing Satellite operator would spend, days, weeks, months or maybe years Googleing resources to ease their introduction to the multiple aspects of the hobby.
Has anyone seen an up to date hard/softcover book that answers the majority of the questions that we see go by the BB every day? Would 2.4 or 1.2 GHz have any activity if not for the AMSAT BB? How about automatic frequency control and tracking?
What's the information worth to the individual?...that's a personal decision. But without communication, interest declines resulting in a who cares attitude...after all most of us have cellphones that can probably accomplish many of the tasks we perform through satellites less expensively.
Roger WA1KAT
Bob- W7LRD wrote:
Hi Joel and all
-This is a timely question for me. Yesterday I organized and ran (with the help of Wayne-W9AE) a AMSAT table at a local hamfest. I had the opportunity to meet many local hams both satellite ops and the curious. I extolled the virtues of AMSAT and the satellite community in general. A few points I noticed as an undercurrent in some of the conversations. We hams are generally a frugal bunch and in some cases just plain cheap. I had several antennas on display as well as several pictures, one was of an astronaut on a EVA installing one of our antennas on the outside of the space station. Some of the questions went like this, one guy asked, "do you have to belong to AMSAT to operate satellites?", can I get this software (Satpc32) free on line?" "are these books available any where else?" My response to these and similar queries was, "see this picture?" what do you think the shipping cost is?" "What we do, is rocket science, and rocket science is not cheap". How man
y active satellite operators do not belong to AMSAT? How many use pirated tracking programs. How many do not contribute "something" to AMSAT. Maybe some aspect of of AMSAT ticks you off, so you cut the cord. I'm sure some part of the government ticks you off, you don't move to Canada. In order for AMSAT and our efforts to succeed it takes money, and yes probably lots of it. This event was a learning process for me and in the future I hope to hone my abilities and create more dues paying and contributing members. Finally- "this is rocket science and rocket science is not cheap.
73 Bob W7LRD Washington State AMSAT area coordinator
----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Black" [email protected] To: "AMSAT" [email protected] Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2010 6:40:33 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [amsat-bb] Membership Benefits
AMSAT-BB,
I realize what I'm going to get by asking this... If you were giving a presentation to amateur radio operators who know little or nothing of AMSAT, what would you list as some of the benefits of being a member of AMSAT? What would be the single most important reason?
73, Joel, W4JBB _______________________________________________ Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
Bob, There are always a few that refuse to pay for anything and spend most of their time trying to get something for free. If you spend a little on AMSAT then you can use the time that would be spent on finding something for free, learning how to operate Satellites or build some of the antennas published in the Journal and save real $
Most important is not to give any encouragement to the constant complainers that never contribute anything to anything.
Art, KC6QUH
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bob- W7LRD Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 9:02 AM To: Joel Black Cc: AMSAT Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Membership Benefits
Hi Joel and all
-This is a timely question for me. Yesterday I organized and ran (with the help of Wayne-W9AE) a AMSAT table at a local hamfest. I had the opportunity to meet many local hams both satellite ops and the curious. I extolled the virtues of AMSAT and the satellite community in general. A few points I noticed as an undercurrent in some of the conversations. We hams are generally a frugal bunch and in some cases just plain cheap. I had several antennas on display as well as several pictures, one was of an astronaut on a EVA installing one of our antennas on the outside of the space station. Some of the questions went like this, one guy asked, "do you have to belong to AMSAT to operate satellites?", can I get this software (Satpc32) free on line?" "are these books available any where else?" My response to these and similar queries was, "see this picture?" what do you think the shipping cost is?" "What we do, is rocket science, and rocket science is not cheap". How many active satellite operators do not belong to AMSAT? How many use pirated tracking programs. How many do not contribute "something" to AMSAT. Maybe some aspect of of AMSAT ticks you off, so you cut the cord. I'm sure some part of the government ticks you off, you don't move to Canada. In order for AMSAT and our efforts to succeed it takes money, and yes probably lots of it. This event was a learning process for me and in the future I hope to hone my abilities and create more dues paying and contributing members. Finally- "this is rocket science and rocket science is not cheap.
73 Bob W7LRD Washington State AMSAT area coordinator
----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Black" [email protected] To: "AMSAT" [email protected] Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2010 6:40:33 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [amsat-bb] Membership Benefits
AMSAT-BB,
I realize what I'm going to get by asking this... If you were giving a presentation to amateur radio operators who know little or nothing of AMSAT, what would you list as some of the benefits of being a member of AMSAT? What would be the single most important reason?
73, Joel, W4JBB _______________________________________________ Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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