Tim I agree with you.

On 27/01/2025 3:37 p.m., Tim Campbell via AMSAT-BB wrote:

I understand your desire here.  But just to show the flip side....

I have seen limits and "demands" in groups like this cause splintering of the group.  The result is a splitting of the people and knowledge.  Folks in the middle tend to then have to join multiple groups in order to still have access to ALL of the knowledge.  Sounds like a split in the local ham club(s).

I agree politics doesn't belong generally in ham radio and many Hams are not interested in politics of the USA.

However, I do know how to filter my emails and use the delete key.  This seems the best route to me in order to accommodate everyone.

Just my .02 cents. 73, Tim KB2MFS

On Mon, Jan 27, 2025, 16:05 Bruce Perens via AMSAT-BB [email protected] wrote:

As I explain in the section about "what about my free speech
right?". There were a couple of things that went into this it
might not be immediately obvious.

First of all there were some serious personal contact issues in
open source conferences, and in businesses I've been associated
with. Things that messed up careers, and had a serious effect on
business and investments.

One of the assumptions is that there would be government
relations, and we're working with a pharmaceutical foundation
right now - because software is a big part of genetic research -
that also has some serious regulations on it. And it seemed that
the very best way to handle the issues was to take a number of
subjects and firmly place them out of bounds, while leaving a
carve out for free speech that is somewhat distanced from the rest
of the organization.

And yeah, you definitely got roped in. But that's because we all
have really strong feelings and it is hard to just look the other
way sometimes. I was hoping that a really crisp structure would
help some people deal with that.

Thanks

Bruce

On Mon, Jan 27, 2025, 12:40 Clint Bradford <[email protected]>
wrote:

    Quite interesting.

    But non-government-run entities can be much more blatant about
    alleged “free speech rights” - There are NO guarantees of
    “free speech” in groups like these.

    People like to cite the First Amendment to the Constitution as
    their permission to spout. But what are the first words of
    that Amendment?

    “Congress shall make no law … “

    Clint K6LCS

...

    On Jan 27, 2025, at 11:28 AM, Bruce Perens via AMSAT-BB
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Please see the code of conduct I designed for the Post Open
    project ...

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