As someone myself not into the FM Birds, I really have not paid any attention to what is out there FM bird wise.
But this past Field Day we had this 14 year old kid stop in at our Field Day site. He's newly licensed Tech, ( January got his ticket ), He sat down in front of the HF radio and listened for ohh ten minutes or so, we then offered him a chance to run the logger.
And he did Great! We were running a Freq on 15 meters at the moment, and then asked him if he would want to try getting on the radio, and he said sure.
We explained the exchange and QSO pattern of what to say and when and all that.
And said go for it!
He was Incredible! Almost from the start he was Running the Freq like a veteran pro! The off freq SSB sigs never even fazed him at all. Even pileups he handled perfectly. I was very impressed. For someone that has never been on HF or even heard it before, it was like he was doing this for decades!
He would "QRZed Field Day" And he'd grab a call out of the pile, never write it down or anything and go back to them with the exchange and all that. Monitoring the QSO rate meter, he for the two hours he played, he was running an average 90 QSO's a hour rate! Incredible for someone that has never ever been on HF ever before!
After he got off I talked to him a bunch and learned that he got his license because he read someplace about Amateur Radio and how we can talk through Satellites all our own.
Right now all he has is a Baeofeng BF-F8HP, so not much of a Sat radio there,, BUT.... I want to give him a list of FM birds to at least listen for, and Elmer him into some of the prediction software's and or web pages.
But I need a list of active FM birds that I can suggest to him to listen for.
Anyone?
Joe WB9SBD
Joe.... See below. 73, Bob K8BL FM Satellite Frequency Summary – AMSAT-NA
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From: Joe [email protected] To: amsat-bb [email protected] Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2017 10:48 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] FM Birds
As someone myself not into the FM Birds, I really have not paid any attention to what is out there FM bird wise.
But this past Field Day we had this 14 year old kid stop in at our Field Day site. He's newly licensed Tech, ( January got his ticket ), He sat down in front of the HF radio and listened for ohh ten minutes or so, we then offered him a chance to run the logger.
And he did Great! We were running a Freq on 15 meters at the moment, and then asked him if he would want to try getting on the radio, and he said sure.
We explained the exchange and QSO pattern of what to say and when and all that.
And said go for it!
He was Incredible! Almost from the start he was Running the Freq like a veteran pro! The off freq SSB sigs never even fazed him at all. Even pileups he handled perfectly. I was very impressed. For someone that has never been on HF or even heard it before, it was like he was doing this for decades!
He would "QRZed Field Day" And he'd grab a call out of the pile, never write it down or anything and go back to them with the exchange and all that. Monitoring the QSO rate meter, he for the two hours he played, he was running an average 90 QSO's a hour rate! Incredible for someone that has never ever been on HF ever before!
After he got off I talked to him a bunch and learned that he got his license because he read someplace about Amateur Radio and how we can talk through Satellites all our own.
Right now all he has is a Baeofeng BF-F8HP, so not much of a Sat radio there,, BUT.... I want to give him a list of FM birds to at least listen for, and Elmer him into some of the prediction software's and or web pages.
But I need a list of active FM birds that I can suggest to him to listen for.
Anyone?
Joe WB9SBD
Dang "Plain Text"!
Try this:
https://www.amsat.org/fm-satellite-frequency-summary/
-BL
________________________________ From: R.T.Liddy [email protected] To: Joe [email protected]; amsat-bb [email protected] Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2017 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FM Birds
Joe.... See below. 73, Bob K8BL FM Satellite Frequency Summary – AMSAT-NA
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From: Joe [email protected] To: amsat-bb [email protected] Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2017 10:48 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] FM Birds
As someone myself not into the FM Birds, I really have not paid any attention to what is out there FM bird wise.
But this past Field Day we had this 14 year old kid stop in at our Field Day site. He's newly licensed Tech, ( January got his ticket ), He sat down in front of the HF radio and listened for ohh ten minutes or so, we then offered him a chance to run the logger.
And he did Great! We were running a Freq on 15 meters at the moment, and then asked him if he would want to try getting on the radio, and he said sure.
We explained the exchange and QSO pattern of what to say and when and all that.
And said go for it!
He was Incredible! Almost from the start he was Running the Freq like a veteran pro! The off freq SSB sigs never even fazed him at all. Even pileups he handled perfectly. I was very impressed. For someone that has never been on HF or even heard it before, it was like he was doing this for decades!
He would "QRZed Field Day" And he'd grab a call out of the pile, never write it down or anything and go back to them with the exchange and all that. Monitoring the QSO rate meter, he for the two hours he played, he was running an average 90 QSO's a hour rate! Incredible for someone that has never ever been on HF ever before!
After he got off I talked to him a bunch and learned that he got his license because he read someplace about Amateur Radio and how we can talk through Satellites all our own.
Right now all he has is a Baeofeng BF-F8HP, so not much of a Sat radio there,, BUT.... I want to give him a list of FM birds to at least listen for, and Elmer him into some of the prediction software's and or web pages.
But I need a list of active FM birds that I can suggest to him to listen for.
Anyone?
Joe WB9SBD
Really? there is only 3 of them? I had the impression there were a LOT more than that.
Joe WB9SBD Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 7/2/2017 10:46 AM, R.T.Liddy wrote:
Joe.... See below. 73, Bob K8BL
FM Satellite Frequency Summary – AMSAT-NA https://www.amsat.org/fm-satellite-frequency-summary/
FM Satellite Frequency Summary – AMSAT-NAhttps://www.amsat.org/fm-satellite-frequency-summary/
*From:* Joe [email protected] *To:* amsat-bb [email protected] *Sent:* Sunday, July 2, 2017 10:48 AM *Subject:* [amsat-bb] FM Birds
As someone myself not into the FM Birds, I really have not paid any attention to what is out there FM bird wise.
But this past Field Day we had this 14 year old kid stop in at our Field Day site. He's newly licensed Tech, ( January got his ticket ), He sat down in front of the HF radio and listened for ohh ten minutes or so, we then offered him a chance to run the logger.
And he did Great! We were running a Freq on 15 meters at the moment, and then asked him if he would want to try getting on the radio, and he said sure.
We explained the exchange and QSO pattern of what to say and when and all that.
And said go for it!
He was Incredible! Almost from the start he was Running the Freq like a veteran pro! The off freq SSB sigs never even fazed him at all. Even pileups he handled perfectly. I was very impressed. For someone that has never been on HF or even heard it before, it was like he was doing this for decades!
He would "QRZed Field Day" And he'd grab a call out of the pile, never write it down or anything and go back to them with the exchange and all that. Monitoring the QSO rate meter, he for the two hours he played, he was running an average 90 QSO's a hour rate! Incredible for someone that has never ever been on HF ever before!
After he got off I talked to him a bunch and learned that he got his license because he read someplace about Amateur Radio and how we can talk through Satellites all our own.
Right now all he has is a Baeofeng BF-F8HP, so not much of a Sat radio there,, BUT.... I want to give him a list of FM birds to at least listen for, and Elmer him into some of the prediction software's and or web pages.
But I need a list of active FM birds that I can suggest to him to listen for.
Anyone?
Joe WB9SBD
Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com/ _______________________________________________ Sent via [email protected]. mailto:[email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
I count 6 on the page referenced above?
There were several more that are inoperable now.
Ryan, NF0T
On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 2:13 PM, Joe [email protected] wrote:
Really? there is only 3 of them? I had the impression there were a LOT more than that.
Joe WB9SBD Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 7/2/2017 10:46 AM, R.T.Liddy wrote:
Joe.... See below. 73, Bob K8BL
FM Satellite Frequency Summary – AMSAT-NA https://www.amsat.org/fm-sate llite-frequency-summary/
FM Satellite Frequency Summary – AMSAT-NAhttps://www.amsat.org/fm-satellite-frequency-summary/
*From:* Joe [email protected] *To:* amsat-bb [email protected] *Sent:* Sunday, July 2, 2017 10:48 AM *Subject:* [amsat-bb] FM Birds
As someone myself not into the FM Birds, I really have not paid any attention to what is out there FM bird wise.
But this past Field Day we had this 14 year old kid stop in at our Field Day site. He's newly licensed Tech, ( January got his ticket ), He sat down in front of the HF radio and listened for ohh ten minutes or so, we then offered him a chance to run the logger.
And he did Great! We were running a Freq on 15 meters at the moment, and then asked him if he would want to try getting on the radio, and he said sure.
We explained the exchange and QSO pattern of what to say and when and all that.
And said go for it!
He was Incredible! Almost from the start he was Running the Freq like a veteran pro! The off freq SSB sigs never even fazed him at all. Even pileups he handled perfectly. I was very impressed. For someone that has never been on HF or even heard it before, it was like he was doing this for decades!
He would "QRZed Field Day" And he'd grab a call out of the pile, never write it down or anything and go back to them with the exchange and all that. Monitoring the QSO rate meter, he for the two hours he played, he was running an average 90 QSO's a hour rate! Incredible for someone that has never ever been on HF ever before!
After he got off I talked to him a bunch and learned that he got his license because he read someplace about Amateur Radio and how we can talk through Satellites all our own.
Right now all he has is a Baeofeng BF-F8HP, so not much of a Sat radio there,, BUT.... I want to give him a list of FM birds to at least listen for, and Elmer him into some of the prediction software's and or web pages.
But I need a list of active FM birds that I can suggest to him to listen for.
Anyone?
Joe WB9SBD
Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com/ _______________________________________________ Sent via [email protected]. mailto:[email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
There are several links at the top of that page where you can get additional info on numerous SATs. All you have to do is click on them. This one, below, gives the status of operable & otherwise. -BL
________________________________ From: Ryan Butler [email protected] To: Joe [email protected] Cc: R.T.Liddy [email protected]; amsat-bb [email protected] Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2017 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FM Birds
I count 6 on the page referenced above?
There were several more that are inoperable now.
Ryan, NF0T
On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 2:13 PM, Joe [email protected] wrote:
Really? there is only 3 of them?
I had the impression there were a LOT more than that.
Joe WB9SBD Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 7/2/2017 10:46 AM, R.T.Liddy wrote:
Joe.... See below. 73, Bob K8BL
FM Satellite Frequency Summary – AMSAT-NA <https://www.amsat.org/fm-sate llite-frequency-summary/>
FM Satellite Frequency Summary – AMSAT-NA
<https://www.amsat.org/fm-sate llite-frequency-summary/>
*From:* Joe [email protected] *To:* amsat-bb [email protected] *Sent:* Sunday, July 2, 2017 10:48 AM *Subject:* [amsat-bb] FM Birds
As someone myself not into the FM Birds, I really have not paid any attention to what is out there FM bird wise.
But this past Field Day we had this 14 year old kid stop in at our Field Day site. He's newly licensed Tech, ( January got his ticket ), He sat down in front of the HF radio and listened for ohh ten minutes or so, we then offered him a chance to run the logger.
And he did Great! We were running a Freq on 15 meters at the moment, and then asked him if he would want to try getting on the radio, and he said sure.
We explained the exchange and QSO pattern of what to say and when and all that.
And said go for it!
He was Incredible! Almost from the start he was Running the Freq like a veteran pro! The off freq SSB sigs never even fazed him at all. Even pileups he handled perfectly. I was very impressed. For someone that has never been on HF or even heard it before, it was like he was doing this for decades!
He would "QRZed Field Day" And he'd grab a call out of the pile, never write it down or anything and go back to them with the exchange and all that. Monitoring the QSO rate meter, he for the two hours he played, he was running an average 90 QSO's a hour rate! Incredible for someone that has never ever been on HF ever before!
After he got off I talked to him a bunch and learned that he got his license because he read someplace about Amateur Radio and how we can talk through Satellites all our own.
Right now all he has is a Baeofeng BF-F8HP, so not much of a Sat radio there,, BUT.... I want to give him a list of FM birds to at least listen for, and Elmer him into some of the prediction software's and or web pages.
But I need a list of active FM birds that I can suggest to him to listen for.
Anyone?
Joe WB9SBD
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Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/l istinfo/amsat-bb
according to that 3 of the 6 are not even launched yet.
Joe WB9SBD Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 7/2/2017 3:50 PM, Ryan Butler wrote:
I count 6 on the page referenced above?
There were several more that are inoperable now.
Ryan, NF0T
On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 2:13 PM, Joe <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
Really? there is only 3 of them? I had the impression there were a LOT more than that. Joe WB9SBD Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 7/2/2017 10:46 AM, R.T.Liddy wrote: Joe.... See below. 73, Bob K8BL FM Satellite Frequency Summary – AMSAT-NA <https://www.amsat.org/fm-satellite-frequency-summary/ <https://www.amsat.org/fm-satellite-frequency-summary/>> FM Satellite Frequency Summary – AMSAT-NA <https://www.amsat.org/fm-satellite-frequency-summary/ <https://www.amsat.org/fm-satellite-frequency-summary/>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* Joe <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> *To:* amsat-bb <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> *Sent:* Sunday, July 2, 2017 10:48 AM *Subject:* [amsat-bb] FM Birds As someone myself not into the FM Birds, I really have not paid any attention to what is out there FM bird wise. But this past Field Day we had this 14 year old kid stop in at our Field Day site. He's newly licensed Tech, ( January got his ticket ), He sat down in front of the HF radio and listened for ohh ten minutes or so, we then offered him a chance to run the logger. And he did Great! We were running a Freq on 15 meters at the moment, and then asked him if he would want to try getting on the radio, and he said sure. We explained the exchange and QSO pattern of what to say and when and all that. And said go for it! He was Incredible! Almost from the start he was Running the Freq like a veteran pro! The off freq SSB sigs never even fazed him at all. Even pileups he handled perfectly. I was very impressed. For someone that has never been on HF or even heard it before, it was like he was doing this for decades! He would "QRZed Field Day" And he'd grab a call out of the pile, never write it down or anything and go back to them with the exchange and all that. Monitoring the QSO rate meter, he for the two hours he played, he was running an average 90 QSO's a hour rate! Incredible for someone that has never ever been on HF ever before! After he got off I talked to him a bunch and learned that he got his license because he read someplace about Amateur Radio and how we can talk through Satellites all our own. Right now all he has is a Baeofeng BF-F8HP, so not much of a Sat radio there,, BUT.... I want to give him a list of FM birds to at least listen for, and Elmer him into some of the prediction software's and or web pages. But I need a list of active FM birds that I can suggest to him to listen for. Anyone? Joe WB9SBD -- Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com <http://www.idle-tyme.com/> _______________________________________________ Sent via [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>. <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>.> AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb> _______________________________________________ Sent via [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
"Really? there is only 3 of them? I had the impression there were a LOT more than that."
Hi Joe! There will be a few more soon. FM satellites are useful because the ground equipment is fairly minimal (a duplex radio like a TH-D72, or a pair of HTs). BUT the big drawback is they support only one user at a time. The "linear" birds, of which there are many, support dozens of simultaneous users. The drawback is it requires more sophisticated radio gear because you need to use CW or SSB.
SO-50 is VERY easy to work. AO-85 (Fox1) is more challenging. The other FM bird is rarely turned on.
FM satellites on Field Day are a real challenge -- too many folks trying to work at one time.
Glad you had such a good time with the young ham. That's our future, and your time investment will pay off dividends down the road.
73, Bob, WB4SON
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On Sun, 2 Jul 2017 09:48:23 -0500 Joe [email protected] wrote:
But I need a list of active FM birds that I can suggest to him to listen for.
I regularly work SO-50 and AO-85 with my HT. It's a Yaesu FT-60R but I've done it with a Baofeng UV5R as well. I use GPredict on Linux to track the birds.
I think that some folks use heavens-above.com for this purpose. Along with the entire AMSAT site, work-sat.com is relatively useful if you can sift through the design. Their tutorial helps one get set up for working SO-50: http://www.work-sat.com/Home_files/satbr-120616.pdf
It's tricky but he should be able to work SO-50 with a whip like those from Nagoya, Comet, or Diamond. I'm not sure it'd be possible with the ducky but maybe he could monitor one.
Good luck!
73 DE KD5RYO - -- Happy Hacking!
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