okay, here is what bill moore, nc1l, the head guy for the arrl awards has to say about the new structure for the awards. note at the bottom, if you are submitting your first ever award with 50 lotw and 50 cards, you must submit two separate applications and two separate fees.
this is self explanatory (don't shoot the messenger).
73...bruce
----- Forwarded Message ---- From: "Moore, Bill, NC1L (ARRL Awards Branch)" nc1l@arrl.org To: bruce paige kk5do@arrl.net Sent: Mon, January 24, 2011 6:14:19 PM Subject: RE: National Association for Amateur Radio Website Form
Hi Bruce: Here is how the new fees work: First, for VUCC there is no Hybrid application like there is for DXCC and WAS. For paper applications: $7.00 application fee Each QSO is $0.20 $1.00 postage $12.00 for each certificate LoTW Applications: $5.00 application fee Each QSO in LoTW is $0.16 $1.00 for paperwork postage $12.00 for each certificate Eg: If someone has a first time ever Satellite VUCC with 250 QSOs the fees would be: $7.00 for the application $50.00 for 250 QSOs @ $0.20 each $12.00 for the certificate $1.00 for paperwork/sticker return His total would be $70.00 If he has LoTW and Paper both categories would apply above since we do not have hybrids anymore. Basically, the application fee went down and other fees were adjusted. Regards If someone needs 100 for a first time ever and they have 50 LoTW and 50 paper, they would do each application, separately, and the fees for each application apply as noted above. Bill Moore NC1L Awards Branch Manager ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio™ 225 Main Street Newington, CT 06111 Telephone: (860) 594 0234 Fax: (860) 594-0346 email: dxcc@arrl.org DXCC Web Site: www.arrl.org/awards/dxcc Blog: http://www.arrl.org/awards-blog
I am still learning LoTW. I uploaded my whole log from ACLog by n3fjp. I downloaded LoTW into it and it shows 60 confirmed QSOs on LoTW.
Yet, for my VUCC award it only says 29 confirmed.
I removed all the /p, /h, /#, /m etc's from the callsigns and tried again. I got 1 additional confirmed.
That leaves 30 that my log program says LoTW has confirmed, but that are not showing up for VUCC.
Any ideas?
mike kb8zgl
Mike,
I have no idea of how many other QSOs you have uploaded. You can log in to the LOTW web page and look through all of your confirmed QSOs. It maybe a fair amount of work, but it will probably let you know what is going on.
73, Joe
-----Original Message----- From: amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Michael J. Wolthuis Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 8:17 PM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] VUCC - n3fjp - what am I doing wrong?
I am still learning LoTW. I uploaded my whole log from ACLog by n3fjp. I downloaded LoTW into it and it shows 60 confirmed QSOs on LoTW.
Yet, for my VUCC award it only says 29 confirmed.
I removed all the /p, /h, /#, /m etc's from the callsigns and tried again. I got 1 additional confirmed.
That leaves 30 that my log program says LoTW has confirmed, but that are not showing up for VUCC.
Any ideas?
mike kb8zgl
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DOn't have to create a difference location under TQSL for each of the portable callsign grids you operated from. I was under that impression you had to do that if you were operating from a different grid. Not sure if that is the problem or not.
joe KI4TZ
Gary "Joe" Mayfield wrote:
Mike,
I have no idea of how many other QSOs you have uploaded. You can login to the LOTW web page and look through all of your confirmed QSOs. It maybe a fair amount of work, but it will probably let you know what is going on.
73, Joe
-----Original Message----- From: amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Michael J. Wolthuis Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 8:17 PM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] VUCC - n3fjp - what am I doing wrong?
I am still learning LoTW. I uploaded my whole log from ACLog by n3fjp. I downloaded LoTW into it and it shows 60 confirmed QSOs on LoTW.
Yet, for my VUCC award it only says 29 confirmed.
I removed all the /p, /h, /#, /m etc's from the callsigns and tried again. I got 1 additional confirmed.
That leaves 30 that my log program says LoTW has confirmed, but that are not showing up for VUCC.
Any ideas?
mike kb8zgl
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The application fee didn't really go down, it also went up, except for VUCCs on 2.3ghz and above. The application fee used to be $12, and that included how many QSLs you sent to get the VUCC. Now if I want to get a brand new VUCC on 6m using LOTW, it is $7 for the intial fee, plus $16.00 for the QSL fee, so it is $23, as opposed to the previous $12, so it has doubled in price.
73s John AA5JG
---- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce" kk5do@arrl.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 12:25 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] reply from arrl on new vucc fees
okay, here is what bill moore, nc1l, the head guy for the arrl awards has to say about the new structure for the awards. note at the bottom, if you are submitting your first ever award with 50 lotw and 50 cards, you must submit two separate applications and two separate fees.
this is self explanatory (don't shoot the messenger).
73...bruce
----- Forwarded Message ---- From: "Moore, Bill, NC1L (ARRL Awards Branch)" nc1l@arrl.org To: bruce paige kk5do@arrl.net Sent: Mon, January 24, 2011 6:14:19 PM Subject: RE: National Association for Amateur Radio Website Form
Hi Bruce:
Here is how the new fees work:
First, for VUCC there is no Hybrid application like there is for DXCC and WAS.
For paper applications:
$7.00 application fee Each QSO is $0.20 $1.00 postage $12.00 for each certificate
LoTW Applications:
$5.00 application fee Each QSO in LoTW is $0.16 $1.00 for paperwork postage $12.00 for each certificate
Eg: If someone has a first time ever Satellite VUCC with 250 QSOs the fees would be:
$7.00 for the application $50.00 for 250 QSOs @ $0.20 each $12.00 for the certificate $1.00 for paperwork/sticker return
His total would be $70.00
If he has LoTW and Paper both categories would apply above since we do not have hybrids anymore.
Basically, the application fee went down and other fees were adjusted.
Regards
If someone needs 100 for a first time ever and they have 50 LoTW and 50 paper, they would do each application, separately, and the fees for each application apply as noted above.
Bill Moore NC1L Awards Branch Manager ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio™ 225 Main Street Newington, CT 06111 Telephone: (860) 594 0234 Fax: (860) 594-0346 email: dxcc@arrl.org DXCC Web Site: www.arrl.org/awards/dxcc Blog: http://www.arrl.org/awards-blog _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
Don't forget to include what it cost to obtain a minimum of 100 QSLs in the pre VUCC-LOTW world. Assuming (worst case) SASEs were sent @44 cents each and assuming 100% response rate (lots of assuming here)plus the $12 for the award fee, it would have cost a minimum of $100. So that $23 for a LOTW only application looks great.
The two things that really burns me is the fact that a hybrid application is not supported like it is on DXCC or WAS. Realistically, you will not have 100% of the grids confirmed on LOTW. This is true of DXCC and WAS even after 8 years of operation. So your basically going to be charged double fees to have all the confirmed LOTW and paper grids credited. The other thing is the 20 cent per QSO charge for paper applications. It is totally out of line considering what was charged for a VUCC application and what is currently charged for DXCC applications.
Don't think I'm slamming LOTW or opposed to it. I love it and think it is a great idea considering postage costs these days but it can be better. I also love paper QSLs. I'm just a little ticked by the greed in Newington these days. I sure hope this isn't the Leagues idea of how to attract to new blood to the hobby and revitalize its current membership. Things must be pretty rosy in Newington these days considering the rest of the country is in a recession.
Scott AA5AM
From: aa5jg@fidmail.com To: kk5do@arrl.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 02:24:20 +0000 Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: reply from arrl on new vucc fees
The application fee didn't really go down, it also went up, except for VUCCs on 2.3ghz and above. The application fee used to be $12, and that included how many QSLs you sent to get the VUCC. Now if I want to get a brand new VUCC on 6m using LOTW, it is $7 for the intial fee, plus $16.00 for the QSL fee, so it is $23, as opposed to the previous $12, so it has doubled in price.
73s John AA5JG
---- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce" kk5do@arrl.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 12:25 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] reply from arrl on new vucc fees
okay, here is what bill moore, nc1l, the head guy for the arrl awards has to say about the new structure for the awards. note at the bottom, if you are submitting your first ever award with 50 lotw and 50 cards, you must submit two separate applications and two separate fees.
this is self explanatory (don't shoot the messenger).
73...bruce
----- Forwarded Message ---- From: "Moore, Bill, NC1L (ARRL Awards Branch)" nc1l@arrl.org To: bruce paige kk5do@arrl.net Sent: Mon, January 24, 2011 6:14:19 PM Subject: RE: National Association for Amateur Radio Website Form
Hi Bruce:
Here is how the new fees work:
First, for VUCC there is no Hybrid application like there is for DXCC and WAS.
For paper applications:
$7.00 application fee Each QSO is $0.20 $1.00 postage $12.00 for each certificate
LoTW Applications:
$5.00 application fee Each QSO in LoTW is $0.16 $1.00 for paperwork postage $12.00 for each certificate
Eg: If someone has a first time ever Satellite VUCC with 250 QSOs the fees would be:
$7.00 for the application $50.00 for 250 QSOs @ $0.20 each $12.00 for the certificate $1.00 for paperwork/sticker return
His total would be $70.00
If he has LoTW and Paper both categories would apply above since we do not have hybrids anymore.
Basically, the application fee went down and other fees were adjusted.
Regards
If someone needs 100 for a first time ever and they have 50 LoTW and 50 paper, they would do each application, separately, and the fees for each application apply as noted above.
Bill Moore NC1L Awards Branch Manager ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio™ 225 Main Street Newington, CT 06111 Telephone: (860) 594 0234 Fax: (860) 594-0346 email: dxcc@arrl.org DXCC Web Site: www.arrl.org/awards/dxcc Blog: http://www.arrl.org/awards-blog _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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