Re: Considerate satellite operations behavior.
At 10:45 AM 2/21/2011 -0500, "Mark L. Hammond" marklhammond@gmail.com wrote:
Okay, this one perplexes me--what in the world can the "powers to be at amsat" do to fix this?
Turn Off all the FM birds. ;-)
No, we told them a dozen times already. Stop building FM crap, and do a HEO or at least as minimums, LEO's with linear transponders and Vuala! Problem solved. But no, they are committed to Fox now, which mean more whining.
Anyone remember this degree of whining back when there was a HEO?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" vlfiscus@mcn.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 7:56 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Considerate satellite operations behavior.
Turn Off all the FM birds. ;-)
No, we told them a dozen times already. Stop building FM crap, and do a HEO or at least as minimums, LEO's with linear transponders and Vuala! Problem solved. But no, they are committed to Fox now, which mean more whining.
Anyone remember this degree of whining back when there was a HEO?
Hi Vince, KB7ADL
To get an idea of the high technical quality QSO's on HEO satellites with not this degree of "whining" like novadays on the FM LEO birds I suggest to read the old AMSAT-BB messages available in the archive beginning from the early 2000 to 2004 when AO40 was alive and well. Here is the address:
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/archive/amsat-bb/index.html
Pulling for P3-E ! !
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
If you don't like the FM satellites, instead of complaining that we need more linear satellites (like I have seen suggested), HOW ABOUT USING THE ONES WE HAVE?? VO52 is an excellent satellite and it is hardly overcrowded, at least in the US. Many times there is only one or two stations on it.
73s John AA5JG
----- Original Message ----- From: "i8cvs" domenico.i8cvs@tin.it To: "Amsat - BBs" amsat-bb@amsat.org; "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" vlfiscus@mcn.net Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 11:23 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Considerate satellite operations behavior.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" vlfiscus@mcn.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 7:56 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Considerate satellite operations behavior.
Turn Off all the FM birds. ;-)
No, we told them a dozen times already. Stop building FM crap, and do a HEO or at least as minimums, LEO's with linear transponders and Vuala! Problem solved. But no, they are committed to Fox now, which mean more whining.
Anyone remember this degree of whining back when there was a HEO?
Hi Vince, KB7ADL
To get an idea of the high technical quality QSO's on HEO satellites with not this degree of "whining" like novadays on the FM LEO birds I suggest to read the old AMSAT-BB messages available in the archive beginning from the early 2000 to 2004 when AO40 was alive and well. Here is the address:
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/archive/amsat-bb/index.html
Pulling for P3-E ! !
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
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Just worked a pass of VO-52, only two signals heard calling CQ and I was calling on CW. Plenty of room for more activity.
73 Bill K3SV
----- Original Message ----- From: "John Geiger" aa5jg@fidmail.com To: "i8cvs" domenico.i8cvs@tin.it; "Amsat - BBs" amsat-bb@amsat.org; "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" vlfiscus@mcn.net Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 8:28 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Considerate satellite operations behavior.
If you don't like the FM satellites, instead of complaining that we need more linear satellites (like I have seen suggested), HOW ABOUT USING THE ONES WE HAVE?? VO52 is an excellent satellite and it is hardly overcrowded, at least in the US. Many times there is only one or two stations on it.
73s John AA5JG
----- Original Message ----- From: "i8cvs" domenico.i8cvs@tin.it To: "Amsat - BBs" amsat-bb@amsat.org; "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" vlfiscus@mcn.net Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 11:23 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Considerate satellite operations behavior.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" vlfiscus@mcn.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 7:56 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Considerate satellite operations behavior.
Turn Off all the FM birds. ;-)
No, we told them a dozen times already. Stop building FM crap, and do a HEO or at least as minimums, LEO's with linear transponders and Vuala! Problem solved. But no, they are committed to Fox now, which mean more whining.
Anyone remember this degree of whining back when there was a HEO?
Hi Vince, KB7ADL
To get an idea of the high technical quality QSO's on HEO satellites with not this degree of "whining" like novadays on the FM LEO birds I suggest to read the old AMSAT-BB messages available in the archive beginning from the early 2000 to 2004 when AO40 was alive and well. Here is the address:
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/archive/amsat-bb/index.html
Pulling for P3-E ! !
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
Hi John, AA5JG
You missed the point my friend because many of us extensively uses the linear satellites like VO-52 ,FO-29 and OSCAR-7
By the way they are LEO satellites but the serious satellite community need and pull for almost one HEO satellite to communicate for hours with amateurs in all continents like we did before years ago using OSCAR-10 OSCAR-13 and AO10 wich performance you cannot imagine and that you probably never tested before.
I suggest you to read the old AMSAT-BB messages available in the AMSAT archive beginning from the early 2000 to 2004 when AO40 was alive and well.Here is the address:
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/archive/amsat-bb/index.html
Many of us remember AO-10, AO-13, and AO-40 and we missed those days.
In addition many of those old satellite users and microwave experimenters are now disappointed and abandoned both AMSAT and the satellite activity.
No projects for HEO satellites in the future ? No brilliant prospects for the Amateur Satellite Service if AMSAT-DL will be not able to find in short time a launch opportunity for P3-E !
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
----- Original Message ----- From: "John Geiger" aa5jg@fidmail.com To: "i8cvs" domenico.i8cvs@tin.it; "Amsat - BBs" amsat-bb@amsat.org; "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" vlfiscus@mcn.net Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 2:28 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Considerate satellite operations behavior.
If you don't like the FM satellites, instead of complaining that we need more linear satellites (like I have seen suggested), HOW ABOUT USING THE ONES WE HAVE?? VO52 is an excellent satellite and it is hardly overcrowded, at least in the US. Many times there is only one or two stations on it.
73s John AA5JG
----- Original Message ----- From: "i8cvs" domenico.i8cvs@tin.it To: "Amsat - BBs" amsat-bb@amsat.org; "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" vlfiscus@mcn.net Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 11:23 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Considerate satellite operations behavior.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" vlfiscus@mcn.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 7:56 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Considerate satellite operations behavior.
Turn Off all the FM birds. ;-)
No, we told them a dozen times already. Stop building FM crap, and do
a
HEO or at least as minimums, LEO's with linear transponders and Vuala! Problem solved. But no, they are committed to Fox now, which mean more whining.
Anyone remember this degree of whining back when there was a HEO?
Hi Vince, KB7ADL
To get an idea of the high technical quality QSO's on HEO satellites with not this degree of "whining" like novadays on the FM LEO birds I suggest to read the old AMSAT-BB messages available in the archive beginning from the early 2000 to 2004 when AO40 was alive and well. Here is the address:
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/archive/amsat-bb/index.html
Pulling for P3-E ! !
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
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