Re: [amsat-bb] Tiangong Re-entry (0000 UTC +/- 2.5 hrs)
You have to manually refresh, F5.
73, Roger W7TZ CN83ia Grid Busters w7tz.webs.com
On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 5:15 PM, Greg D ko6th.greg@gmail.com wrote:
Ah, interesting site. Wouldn't it be fitting if it returned to the launch site. Looks like it might pass just under...
For a change, Australia isn't a target this time :).
Greg KO6TH
Roger wrote:
http://www.aerospace.org/CORDSuploads/TiangongStoryboard.png
Shows it on what's expected to be it's last orbit.
73, Roger W7TZ CN83ia Grid Busters w7tz.webs.com
On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 5:03 PM, Greg D ko6th.greg@gmail.com wrote:
I just updated the keps on gPredict, and Tiangong-1 disappeared from the list. Where'd it come down, or are rumors of its demise ever so slightly exaggerated? Heavens-above still thinks it's up there.
Greg KO6TH
Robert Bruninga wrote:
Since this is journalism, I think you and some others are right. If one simply looks at latitude as a number, then the latitude near the inclination will have a higher probability of appearing. But the best feedback came from Ralph W0RPK who pointed out this page which is
tracking
the orbit with updated predictions: http://www.aerospace.org/CORDSuploads/TiangongStoryboard.png
And the USA is about as far as you can get from the predicted impact.
The
USA is 12 hours out of cycle with the orbit.
The prediction there is currently showing about 0000 UTC which is 8 PM
EDT
plus or minus 2.5 hours. (which is about 3 orbits worth). And although those orbits cover a vast Pacific and Atlantic oceans, a good portion of them cross the middle east through Russia and china.
Bob, WB4APR
On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 11:26 AM, Gary Bender, WS5N ws5n@wildblue.net wrote:
I was thinking the favoring of higher latitudes for reentry was because the apparent sine wave of the ground track naturally slows down in "latitude velocity" as it peaks at 43 degrees and reverses. Add in the rotation of the earth under it and you end up with a bit more dwell
time
above 38 degrees. It is changing latitude much faster between the extremes. (Or maybe I am over thinking it.) -- Gary, WS5N
----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Bruninga" bruninga@usna.edu To: "amsat bb" amsat-bb@amsat.org Cc: "TAPR APRS Mailing List" aprssig@tapr.org Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 5:55:17 PM Subject: Re: [aprssig] [amsat-bb] Tiangong Re-entry on Heavens bove
Hi Bob, do you know the object number by chance?
No, but this link shows that the higher probabilities or re-entry are between about 38 to 43 degree latitudes north and south.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/mar/30/chinas-tiang
ong-1-space-st
ation-will-crash-to-earth-this-weekend <https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/mar/30/chinas-tian
gong-1-space-st%0Aation-will-crash-to-earth-this-weekend>
Im not sure why those would be slightly higher. 43 degrees is its
maximum
excursion (matches its inclination)... Maybe its because as it passes over the equatorial bulge, it sees the higher drag and that will start
the
demise which will occur then 20 minutes later?
Bob -----Original Message----- From: Robert Bruninga Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 9:16 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Tiangong Re-enetry on Heavens bove
You can see the live track of Taengong to re-enter in the next 24
hours on
Just remember, as it suffers increased drag, it will speed up and be
ahead
of classic predictions.
But at least you can see when you are under the orbit as to whether it
is
worth going outside. I 'd go out several minutes before the prediction since we dont know how quickly they are updating the elements as it
speeds
up.
and even if it is daytime, you will see it if it comes in in your
area...
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