Hi,
A problem that I've had for many years is how to track when the satellite's azimuth crosses across the rotator's end-stop, ie. when the azimuth changes from 0 to 359 degrees.
My rotator turns between 0 and 450 degrees, so it should be possible to use angles between 360 and 450 to overcome a sudden transition from 0 to 360 degrees.
As the pass data is available within the tracking program, it should be feasible to deal with the problem in the program. Do any tracking programs include this feature?
A possible solution would be to use a small PIC between the computer and tracker, which could modify the commanded azimuth.
I'm using a Yaseu 5500, LVB tracker, Sat_Explorer tracking program and WinXP.
Any help, suggestions or comments would be most welcome.
73 Clive G3CWV
Hitchin, North Hertfordshire, UK
Clive:
If you're running Windows, this won't help you, but MacDoppler does this easily, and without operator intervention. I'm using the same equipment you are, but with a MacBook Pro laptop, and it works beautifully.
73,
Dave - K7DAA
On Feb 8, 2010, at 2:17 AM, Clive Wallis wrote:
Hi,
A problem that I've had for many years is how to track when the satellite's azimuth crosses across the rotator's end-stop, ie. when the azimuth changes from 0 to 359 degrees.
My rotator turns between 0 and 450 degrees, so it should be possible to use angles between 360 and 450 to overcome a sudden transition from 0 to 360 degrees.
As the pass data is available within the tracking program, it should be feasible to deal with the problem in the program. Do any tracking programs include this feature?
A possible solution would be to use a small PIC between the computer and tracker, which could modify the commanded azimuth.
I'm using a Yaseu 5500, LVB tracker, Sat_Explorer tracking program and WinXP.
Any help, suggestions or comments would be most welcome.
73 Clive G3CWV
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Hi Clive,
Dave is correct about MacDoppler, it works a treat.
What Don (the writer on MD) and I do for GENSO is set a rotator dead spot and indicate to the software that it should allow the elevation to flip the rotators 180 degrees before the pass. The prediction algorithm then knows that if the azimuth passes through the dead spot during the predition, it should flip the rotators beforehand and output the adjusted azimuth position.
I'm sure that some of the windows trackers do this.
AFAIK none of the existing programs allow for the 450 degree rotation.
733
Dave, G4DPZ
On 08/02/2010 10:59, Dave-K7DAA wrote:
Clive:
If you're running Windows, this won't help you, but MacDoppler does this easily, and without operator intervention. I'm using the same equipment you are, but with a MacBook Pro laptop, and it works beautifully.
73,
Dave - K7DAA
On Feb 8, 2010, at 2:17 AM, Clive Wallis wrote:
Hi,
A problem that I've had for many years is how to track when the satellite's azimuth crosses across the rotator's end-stop, ie. when the azimuth changes from 0 to 359 degrees.
My rotator turns between 0 and 450 degrees, so it should be possible to use angles between 360 and 450 to overcome a sudden transition from 0 to 360 degrees.
As the pass data is available within the tracking program, it should be feasible to deal with the problem in the program. Do any tracking programs include this feature?
A possible solution would be to use a small PIC between the computer and tracker, which could modify the commanded azimuth.
I'm using a Yaseu 5500, LVB tracker, Sat_Explorer tracking program and WinXP.
Any help, suggestions or comments would be most welcome.
73 Clive G3CWV
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Hi Dave,
A user of the LVB Tracker, SatPC32, and a Yaseu G-5500 *can* do 450 AZ and 180 EL if they choose to. It's all configurable. The LVB Tracker must be calibrated with either 360 or 450 for azimuth , and either 90 or 180 for elevation. From there, the operator just has to make sure the SatPC32 rotor setup "matches." Users can pick and choose whatever combination matches their station needs or desires (450/90, 360/180, 450/180, 360/90).
I tend to use 90 deg because it's simpler from a "coax hanging" perspective. And I also use 360; in my hands, the 450 seems to "lack linearity" if that makes sense. By that I mean, if I calibrate to 450, it's like 360 isn't quite really 360.... So, I just use 360 and it's fine.
73,
Mark N8MH
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 7:14 AM, David Johnson dave@g4dpz.me.uk wrote:
Hi Clive,
Dave is correct about MacDoppler, it works a treat.
What Don (the writer on MD) and I do for GENSO is set a rotator dead spot and indicate to the software that it should allow the elevation to flip the rotators 180 degrees before the pass. The prediction algorithm then knows that if the azimuth passes through the dead spot during the predition, it should flip the rotators beforehand and output the adjusted azimuth position.
I'm sure that some of the windows trackers do this.
AFAIK none of the existing programs allow for the 450 degree rotation.
733
Dave, G4DPZ
On 08/02/2010 10:59, Dave-K7DAA wrote:
Clive:
If you're running Windows, this won't help you, but MacDoppler does this easily, and without operator intervention. I'm using the same equipment you are, but with a MacBook Pro laptop, and it works beautifully.
73,
Dave - K7DAA
On Feb 8, 2010, at 2:17 AM, Clive Wallis wrote:
Hi,
A problem that I've had for many years is how to track when the satellite's azimuth crosses across the rotator's end-stop, ie. when the azimuth changes from 0 to 359 degrees.
My rotator turns between 0 and 450 degrees, so it should be possible to use angles between 360 and 450 to overcome a sudden transition from 0 to 360 degrees.
As the pass data is available within the tracking program, it should be feasible to deal with the problem in the program. Do any tracking programs include this feature?
A possible solution would be to use a small PIC between the computer and tracker, which could modify the commanded azimuth.
I'm using a Yaseu 5500, LVB tracker, Sat_Explorer tracking program and WinXP.
Any help, suggestions or comments would be most welcome.
73 Clive G3CWV
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Hi Clive, I sent you the following message off the list but my mail was returned by the mail delivery system.
SatPC32 supports the 450° range of the G-5500 (to avoid a full turn of the azimut rotor when the satellite passes your location in the North). You can choose the 450° in the menu "Rotor Setup". To make the option available the max. elevation must be set to 90° and the rotor turning point must be set to "N" (for North).
73s, Erich, DK1TB
----- Original Message ----- From: "Clive Wallis" amsat-bb@g3cwv.co.uk To: "amsat" amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 11:17 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Tracking - End-stop Problem
Hi,
A problem that I've had for many years is how to track when the satellite's azimuth crosses across the rotator's end-stop, ie. when the azimuth changes from 0 to 359 degrees.
My rotator turns between 0 and 450 degrees, so it should be possible to use angles between 360 and 450 to overcome a sudden transition from 0 to 360 degrees.
As the pass data is available within the tracking program, it should be feasible to deal with the problem in the program. Do any tracking programs include this feature?
A possible solution would be to use a small PIC between the computer and tracker, which could modify the commanded azimuth.
I'm using a Yaseu 5500, LVB tracker, Sat_Explorer tracking program and WinXP.
Any help, suggestions or comments would be most welcome.
73 Clive G3CWV
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Hi,
Many thanks to everyone who replied to my request for information.
I thought that SatPC32 might offer a solution with the rotator set up for 450/90 operation.
AFAIK my tracking program (SatExplorer) offers an option to flip the elevation, to avoid traversing round the end-stop, but I didn't really want to do that.
I will contact the author of SatExplorer to see whether 90/450 operation is possible.
Sorry Erich about the bounce problem, should be better now :-)
73 Clive G3CWV
Hitchin, North Hertfordshire, UK
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