And again... No reply....
Statistically spoken, I didn't expect one...
Funny organization!
Rick Hambly (W2GPS) schreef:
Luc,
You and Dave are very creative. Wouldn't it be wonderful if you used your creativity for something useful and positive? I'm sure there must be something you can do that would help the Ham community you obviously care so much about.
Rick W2GPS AMSAT LM2232
Rick,
Interesting point!! What if I wanted to volunteer?
On 3 occasions over the last 3-4 years I have filled out the volunteer questionnaire on the amsat website because I was motivated to volunteer, have many of the skills that are requested, a lot of free time and money to spend. I followed up with email also. I have NEVER received any feedback; not on the questionnaire, not on the follow up emails. Never got an answer when I asked why...
BR,
Wouldn't it be wonderful if you used your creativity for something useful and positive?
On 3 occasions over the last 3-4 years I have filled out the volunteer questionnaire on the amsat website because I was motivated to volunteer, have many of the skills that are requested, a lot of free time and money to spend.
My apologies in advance, I am not following this one too closely, and nothing at all personal to anyone involved... but the above sentence out of context triggers my current summer frustration, <GRIN>
It reminds me of my high-school just graduated son and his job search. His approach was going around, collecting applications, filling them all out and eventually getting around to submitting them. THen spending the rest of the summer playing video games...
When I further pressure him to go out an find a job, he just goes out, collects more applications... And comes back to play video games... When pressured, he responds with the number of applications he has filled out. Nothing about going out and "working" to find a job...
Again, nothing pointed at the current email thread, but a comment anyway...
Bob, WB4APR
Robert Bruninga wrote:
When I further pressure him to go out an find a job, he just goes out, collects more applications... And comes back to play video games... When pressured, he responds with the number of applications he has filled out. Nothing about going out and "working" to find a job...
Humm, I think this is an interesting situation. It points out how amazingly lazy we all are about making something happen. The more fortunate of us have things landing in our laps, and we pick and choose. Those of us without such opportunities have to go out and work to find something we can get a hold of, so that we can have something to do, and if we are lucky, we get payed enough to eat today and have a roof over our head.
One of the things that a well known TV therapist says is "you have to know their currency." I.e. you have to know what they value the most, and make sure you are trading in that currency. Otherwise, the motivation is just not there for them.
Some of the more popular video games, which are Multiuser online games, have whole ecosystems in them. I've watched various people become very infatuated with those echosystems and their challenges and rewards. They are easy to recover from disaster in. You can't go negative, although you can misspend monies and mistrade items to lose on the balance sheet.
The kids are easily drawn in by the chance to be better than someone else, with the convenience of anonymity.
Somewhat like this list...
Gregg Wonderly
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregg Wonderly" w5ggw@cox.net To: bruninga@usna.edu Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 4:14 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Volunteering
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Some of the more popular video games, which are Multiuser online games, have whole ecosystems in them. I've watched various people become very infatuated with those echosystems and their challenges and rewards. They are easy to
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Was that a Freudian slip, Gregg?
At 09:23 AM 7/21/2008, Robert Bruninga wrote:
My apologies in advance, I am not following this one too closely, and nothing at all personal to anyone involved... but the above sentence out of context triggers my current summer frustration, <GRIN>
It reminds me of my high-school just graduated son and his job search. His approach was going around, collecting applications, filling them all out and eventually getting around to submitting them. THen spending the rest of the summer playing video games...
When I further pressure him to go out an find a job, he just goes out, collects more applications... And comes back to play video games... When pressured, he responds with the number of applications he has filled out. Nothing about going out and "working" to find a job...
And I thought I was the only one with this problem. Bob, I'm tired of taking care of your son. He is in my house and I am sending him back to you. He may not appear as you remember him, but from the sounds of this message, he IS your son.
<grin>
Dave
Marc Vermeersch (ON4AMV),
I understand your experience with the volunteer form on the Web site. That data has been going into a database managed by Perry W3PK. Then people in AMSAT who need help are supposed to go to Perry to get excerpts from this database and contact the people on the list for help. Clearly that process is not working.
I have ideas on how to make the volunteer database more useful but it will take a volunteer to write an application to make this data available on-line and let the owner of the data change it as their situation changes.
I apologize if I am not responsive enough on amsat-bb. I have a real job that must be attended to as well and there are only so many hours in a day.
Rick W2GPS AMSAT LM2232
-----Original Message----- From: mvm [mailto:amvm@skynet.be] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 5:20 AM To: Rick Hambly (W2GPS); amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: Volunteering
And again... No reply....
Statistically spoken, I didn't expect one...
Funny organization!
Rick Hambly (W2GPS) schreef:
Luc,
You and Dave are very creative. Wouldn't it be wonderful if you used your creativity for something useful and positive? I'm sure there must be something you can do that would help the Ham community you obviously care so much about.
Rick W2GPS AMSAT LM2232
Rick,
Interesting point!! What if I wanted to volunteer?
On 3 occasions over the last 3-4 years I have filled out the volunteer questionnaire on the amsat website because I was motivated to volunteer, have many of the skills that are requested, a lot of free time and money to spend. I followed up with email also. I have NEVER received any feedback; not on the questionnaire, not on the follow up emails. Never got an answer when I asked why...
BR,
Rick,
I'm volunteering to work on that.
BR, -- //\arc LM2304
Rick Hambly (W2GPS) schreef:
Marc Vermeersch (ON4AMV),
I understand your experience with the volunteer form on the Web site. That data has been going into a database managed by Perry W3PK. Then people in AMSAT who need help are supposed to go to Perry to get excerpts from this database and contact the people on the list for help. Clearly that process is not working.
I have ideas on how to make the volunteer database more useful but it will take a volunteer to write an application to make this data available on-line and let the owner of the data change it as their situation changes.
I apologize if I am not responsive enough on amsat-bb. I have a real job that must be attended to as well and there are only so many hours in a day.
Rick W2GPS AMSAT LM2232
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Gregg Wonderly -
mvm -
Rick Hambly (W2GPS) -
Robert Bruninga