Re: [amsat-bb] Help with SatPC32 Labjack Yaesu 5500 rotator control
Same here, beginning a week or so back. Investigating, but so far nothing determined. Using WIN7 64-bit, and wondering if there was something in the recent updates.
73,
Alan WA4SCA
<-----Original Message----- <From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Nick <Pugh <Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 08:54 AM <To: 'Amsat BB' AMSAT-BB@amsat.org <Subject: [amsat-bb] help with yaesu 5500 rotator < <Hello Amsat-ers < < < <I am using an Yaesu 5500 rotator controlled by a Lab jack under Satpc32 <v8.1. Intermittently the rotator stall under computer control. The LED on <the lab jack indicate a signal to control the rotator to move but no <movement. Terminating Satpc32 the rotator works normal. Suggestions?? < < < < < < < <Nick k6qxj < <_______________________________________________ <Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available <to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions <expressed <are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT- <NA. <Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite <program! <Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
Alan and Nick,
If you think it may be update related try the "Run as Administrator" option (right click on the desk top icon then <Run as Administrator>. This has been solving a number of issues for me lately, all related to Windows security changes to be in compliance with the new EU privacy laws. It is a long shot but it costs you nothing and if it doesn't fix the problem at least you have discovered one easy thing to do that didn't work.
John K4SQC
On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 10:18 AM, Alan wa4sca@gmail.com wrote:
Same here, beginning a week or so back. Investigating, but so far nothing determined. Using WIN7 64-bit, and wondering if there was something in the recent updates.
73,
Alan WA4SCA
<-----Original Message----- <From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Nick <Pugh <Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 08:54 AM <To: 'Amsat BB' AMSAT-BB@amsat.org <Subject: [amsat-bb] help with yaesu 5500 rotator < <Hello Amsat-ers < < < <I am using an Yaesu 5500 rotator controlled by a Lab jack under Satpc32 <v8.1. Intermittently the rotator stall under computer control. The LED on <the lab jack indicate a signal to control the rotator to move but no <movement. Terminating Satpc32 the rotator works normal. Suggestions?? < < < < < < < <Nick k6qxj < <_______________________________________________ <Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available <to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions <expressed <are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT- <NA. <Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite <program! <Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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John,
Good suggestion, but "unfortunately" I already run it as an administrator. Bad security practice, but as you say, it can eliminate odd problems.
The Meltdown/Spectre patch has caused a noticeable performance hit on my machine, even though it is very capable. I am wondering if it may be causing a timing problem? Fortunately the problem only occurs every 2-3 days, but is annoying for unattended operation. SatPC32/Labjack have been running flawlessly for literally years.
73,
Alan WA4SCA
<-----Original Message----- <From: John Kludt [mailto:johnnykludt@gmail.com] <Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 09:28 AM <To: Alan (AMSAT) APBIDDLE@mailaps.org <Cc: AMSAT BB amsat-bb@amsat.org <Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Help with SatPC32 Labjack Yaesu 5500 rotator control < <Alan and Nick, < <If you think it may be update related try the "Run as Administrator" option <(right click on the desk top icon then <Run as Administrator>. This has been <solving a number of issues for me lately, all related to Windows security <changes to be in compliance with the new EU privacy laws. It is a long shot but <it costs you nothing and if it doesn't fix the problem at least you have <discovered one easy thing to do that didn't work. < <John K4SQC < <On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 10:18 AM, Alan <wa4sca@gmail.com <mailto:wa4sca@gmail.com > wrote: < < < Same here, beginning a week or so back. Investigating, but so far <nothing < determined. Using WIN7 64-bit, and wondering if there was <something in the < recent updates. < < 73, < < Alan < WA4SCA < < < <-----Original Message----- < <From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org ] On Behalf Of Nick < <Pugh < <Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 08:54 AM < <To: 'Amsat BB' <AMSAT-BB@amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT- BB@amsat.org > < <Subject: [amsat-bb] help with yaesu 5500 rotator < < < <Hello Amsat-ers < < < < < < < <I am using an Yaesu 5500 rotator controlled by a Lab jack under <Satpc32 < <v8.1. Intermittently the rotator stall under computer control. The LED <on < <the lab jack indicate a signal to control the rotator to move but no < <movement. Terminating Satpc32 the rotator works normal. <Suggestions?? < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < <Nick k6qxj < < < <_______________________________________________ < <Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org mailto:AMSAT-BB@amsat.org . <AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available < <to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. <Opinions < <expressed < <are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of < AMSAT- < <NA. < <Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur <satellite < <program! < <Subscription settings: <http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb < < _______________________________________________ < Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org mailto:AMSAT-BB@amsat.org . <AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available < to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. <Opinions expressed < are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of <AMSAT-NA. < Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur <satellite program! < Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat- <bb http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb < <
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John,
Good suggestion, but "unfortunately" I already run it as an administrator. Bad security practice, but as you say, it can eliminate odd problems.
The Meltdown/Spectre patch has caused a noticeable performance hit on my machine, even though it is very capable. I am wondering if it may be causing a timing problem? Fortunately the problem only occurs every 2-3 days, but is annoying for unattended operation. SatPC32/Labjack have been running flawlessly for literally years.
73,
Alan WA4SCA
<-----Original Message----- <From: John Kludt [mailto:johnnykludt@gmail.com] <Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 09:28 AM <To: Alan (AMSAT) APBIDDLE@mailaps.org <Cc: AMSAT BB amsat-bb@amsat.org <Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Help with SatPC32 Labjack Yaesu 5500 rotator control < <Alan and Nick, < <If you think it may be update related try the "Run as Administrator" option <(right click on the desk top icon then <Run as Administrator>. This has been <solving a number of issues for me lately, all related to Windows security <changes to be in compliance with the new EU privacy laws. It is a long shot but <it costs you nothing and if it doesn't fix the problem at least you have <discovered one easy thing to do that didn't work. < <John K4SQC < <On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 10:18 AM, Alan <wa4sca@gmail.com <mailto:wa4sca@gmail.com > wrote: < < < Same here, beginning a week or so back. Investigating, but so far <nothing < determined. Using WIN7 64-bit, and wondering if there was <something in the < recent updates. < < 73, < < Alan < WA4SCA < < < <-----Original Message----- < <From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org ] On Behalf Of Nick < <Pugh < <Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 08:54 AM < <To: 'Amsat BB' <AMSAT-BB@amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT- BB@amsat.org > < <Subject: [amsat-bb] help with yaesu 5500 rotator < < < <Hello Amsat-ers < < < < < < < <I am using an Yaesu 5500 rotator controlled by a Lab jack under <Satpc32 < <v8.1. Intermittently the rotator stall under computer control. The LED <on < <the lab jack indicate a signal to control the rotator to move but no < <movement. Terminating Satpc32 the rotator works normal. <Suggestions?? < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < <Nick k6qxj < < < <_______________________________________________ < <Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org mailto:AMSAT-BB@amsat.org . <AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available < <to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. <Opinions < <expressed < <are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of < AMSAT- < <NA. < <Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur <satellite < <program! < <Subscription settings: <http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb < < _______________________________________________ < Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org mailto:AMSAT-BB@amsat.org . <AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available < to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. <Opinions expressed < are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of <AMSAT-NA. < Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur <satellite program! < Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat- <bb http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb < <
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Hello Alan, Nick and others, I didn't make any changes with ServerLabjack. The file is unchanged since Dec. 12. 2012. SatPC32 itself only outputs the target positions to ServerLabjack. Only this file then checks whether the rotors have reached the target positions. Is there any correlation between updating the target positions by SatPC32 and stalling of the rotor?
I also use Windows 7, 64-bit and the Labjack U-12 with a KR-5600. Lately I used it for multiple satellite passes and I just tested full 360° turns of the az. rotor/ 90° turns of the el. rotor in both direction (entered target postions in menu "Rotor"). No issues so far. 73s, Erich, DK1TB
Am 30.05.2018 um 16:18 schrieb Alan:
Same here, beginning a week or so back. Investigating, but so far nothing determined. Using WIN7 64-bit, and wondering if there was something in the recent updates.
73,
Alan WA4SCA
<-----Original Message----- <From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Nick <Pugh <Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 08:54 AM <To: 'Amsat BB' AMSAT-BB@amsat.org <Subject: [amsat-bb] help with yaesu 5500 rotator < <Hello Amsat-ers < < < <I am using an Yaesu 5500 rotator controlled by a Lab jack under Satpc32 <v8.1. Intermittently the rotator stall under computer control. The LED on <the lab jack indicate a signal to control the rotator to move but no <movement. Terminating Satpc32 the rotator works normal. Suggestions?? < < < < < < < <Nick k6qxj < <_______________________________________________ <Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available <to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions <expressed <are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT- <NA. <Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite <program! <Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Erich,
So far the stalls have occurred in the middle of the night. One was showing the elevation at 4 degrees, with the target at 0. The Labjack server was indicating a down command. I closed and restarted SatPC32 and when I selected Park, it dropped to 0 and the desired azimuth. The second time was an azimuth problem, with a large difference between the commanded and actual position. The Labjack server was indicating a turn. Closing and restarting cleared the problem.
There are two changes that I know of. I recently changed the rotor position change window from 3 degrees to 10 degree to reduce wear, as that is close enough for LEOs. I have reset that to 3 degrees to remove the variable.
Mark, G0MGX suggested that I look at KB4103718, which has been reported to be causing some USB issues. I have removed it, and will see what happens. If it happens again, I will get more details. It certainly looks like something in the OS rather than SatPC32.
73,
Alan WA4SCA
<-----Original Message----- <From: Erich Eichmann [mailto:erich.eichmann@t-online.de] <Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 11:06 AM <To: APBIDDLE@MAILAPS.ORG; AMSAT-BB@amsat.org <Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Help with SatPC32 Labjack Yaesu 5500 rotator control < <Hello Alan, Nick and others, <I didn't make any changes with ServerLabjack. The file is unchanged <since Dec. 12. 2012. SatPC32 itself only outputs the target positions <to ServerLabjack. Only this file then checks whether the rotors have <reached the target positions. <Is there any correlation between updating the target positions by <SatPC32 and stalling of the rotor? < <I also use Windows 7, 64-bit and the Labjack U-12 with a KR-5600. <Lately I used it for multiple satellite passes and I just tested full <360° turns of the az. rotor/ 90° turns of the el. rotor in both <direction (entered target postions in menu "Rotor"). No issues so far. <73s, Erich, DK1TB < <Am 30.05.2018 um 16:18 schrieb Alan: <> Same here, beginning a week or so back. Investigating, but so far nothing <> determined. Using WIN7 64-bit, and wondering if there was something in <the <> recent updates. <> <> 73, <> <> Alan <> WA4SCA <> <> <> <-----Original Message----- <> <From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On Behalf Of <Nick <> <Pugh <> <Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 08:54 AM <> <To: 'Amsat BB' AMSAT-BB@amsat.org <> <Subject: [amsat-bb] help with yaesu 5500 rotator <> < <> <Hello Amsat-ers <> < <> < <> < <> <I am using an Yaesu 5500 rotator controlled by a Lab jack under Satpc32 <> <v8.1. Intermittently the rotator stall under computer control. The LED on <> <the lab jack indicate a signal to control the rotator to move but no <> <movement. Terminating Satpc32 the rotator works normal. Suggestions?? <> < <> < <> < <> < <> < <> < <> < <> <Nick k6qxj <> < <> <_______________________________________________ <> <Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum <available <> <to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. <Opinions <> <expressed <> <are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of <> AMSAT- <> <NA. <> <Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite <> <program! <> <Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <> <> _______________________________________________ <> Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum <available <> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. <Opinions expressed <> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of <AMSAT-NA. <> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite <program! <> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
Quick progress report.
After deleting KB4103718 and resetting the rotor position change to 3 degrees, I have not seen a stall in a week. I will open that out a degree at a time, and see what if anything happens.
73,
Alan WA4SCA
<-----Original Message----- <From: Alan [mailto:wa4sca@gmail.com] <Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 11:44 AM <To: 'Erich Eichmann' erich.eichmann@t-online.de; <'APBIDDLE@MAILAPS.ORG' APBIDDLE@MAILAPS.ORG; 'AMSAT- <BB@amsat.org' AMSAT-BB@amsat.org <Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Help with SatPC32 Labjack Yaesu 5500 rotator control < <Erich, < <So far the stalls have occurred in the middle of the night. One was showing <the elevation at 4 degrees, with the target at 0. The Labjack server was <indicating a down command. I closed and restarted SatPC32 and when I <selected Park, it dropped to 0 and the desired azimuth. The second time was <an azimuth problem, with a large difference between the commanded and <actual position. The Labjack server was indicating a turn. Closing and <restarting cleared the problem. < <There are two changes that I know of. I recently changed the rotor position <change window from 3 degrees to 10 degree to reduce wear, as that is close <enough for LEOs. I have reset that to 3 degrees to remove the variable. < <Mark, G0MGX suggested that I look at KB4103718, which has been reported to <be causing some USB issues. I have removed it, and will see what happens. If <it happens again, I will get more details. It certainly looks like something in the <OS rather than SatPC32. < <73, < <Alan <WA4SCA < < < <<-----Original Message----- <<From: Erich Eichmann [mailto:erich.eichmann@t-online.de] <<Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 11:06 AM <<To: APBIDDLE@MAILAPS.ORG; AMSAT-BB@amsat.org <<Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Help with SatPC32 Labjack Yaesu 5500 rotator control << <<Hello Alan, Nick and others, <<I didn't make any changes with ServerLabjack. The file is unchanged <<since Dec. 12. 2012. SatPC32 itself only outputs the target positions <<to ServerLabjack. Only this file then checks whether the rotors have <<reached the target positions. <<Is there any correlation between updating the target positions by <<SatPC32 and stalling of the rotor? << <<I also use Windows 7, 64-bit and the Labjack U-12 with a KR-5600. <<Lately I used it for multiple satellite passes and I just tested full <<360° turns of the az. rotor/ 90° turns of the el. rotor in both <<direction (entered target postions in menu "Rotor"). No issues so far. <<73s, Erich, DK1TB << <<Am 30.05.2018 um 16:18 schrieb Alan: <<> Same here, beginning a week or so back. Investigating, but so far nothing <<> determined. Using WIN7 64-bit, and wondering if there was something in <<the <<> recent updates. <<> <<> 73, <<> <<> Alan <<> WA4SCA <<> <<> <<> <-----Original Message----- <<> <From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On Behalf Of <<Nick <<> <Pugh <<> <Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 08:54 AM <<> <To: 'Amsat BB' AMSAT-BB@amsat.org <<> <Subject: [amsat-bb] help with yaesu 5500 rotator <<> < <<> <Hello Amsat-ers <<> < <<> < <<> < <<> <I am using an Yaesu 5500 rotator controlled by a Lab jack under Satpc32 <<> <v8.1. Intermittently the rotator stall under computer control. The LED on <<> <the lab jack indicate a signal to control the rotator to move but no <<> <movement. Terminating Satpc32 the rotator works normal. Suggestions?? <<> < <<> < <<> < <<> < <<> < <<> < <<> < <<> <Nick k6qxj <<> < <<> <_______________________________________________ <<> <Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum <<available <<> <to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. <<Opinions <<> <expressed <<> <are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of <<> AMSAT- <<> <NA. <<> <Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite <<> <program! <<> <Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <<> <<> _______________________________________________ <<> Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum <<available <<> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. <<Opinions expressed <<> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of <<AMSAT-NA. <<> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite <<program! <<> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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