Hi Gould,

Thank for that, I have looked at that page before, but its the actual decoding that I cannot seem to do.. I cannot quickly turn my TNC on when I am in voice mode, hence I though i could translate the recording so to speak..

Just for reference, I can only use my TH-D7 portable as I have no room for antennas at home..

thanks,

Chris

-----Original Message----- From: "Gould Smith" gouldsmi@bellsouth.net To: "Chris Bloy" chris@photofuture.co.uk, amsat-bb@amsat.org Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 08:57:34 -0500 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-27 Telem

Hello Chris,

Here is the information on logging and reporting the telemetry for AO-27.

http://www.ao27.org/AO27/tlm.shtml

73, Gould, WA4SXM ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Bloy" chris@photofuture.co.uk To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 8:12 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-27 Telem

Hi All,

Can anyone tell me how to decode the telemetry from AO27?

I have tried to use MIXW in Packet mode and RTTY mode, but all I seem to get is the date and nothing else? I even tried to feed it through AGWE to see if that would work.. I use AO27 all the time and use a minidisc recorder to record my passes, and always capture the telem data at the end.. it would be good if someone could help me out on this one?

Thanks,

Chris

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Hi Chris,

yes, I agree that.

But I think it should be no secret and "we" can ask AMRAD or the AO-27 team for this telemetry equations.

There are some solutions to generate a KISS file with soundcard based software (e.g. MixW32). It is only few hours of programming-work in order to generate the real telemetry data from a KISS File - IF you knows the equations of the channels.

I believe then it would be much easier to collect telemetry -> world-wide!

73, Mike DK3WN

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] Im Auftrag von Gould Smith Gesendet: Dienstag, 29. Januar 2008 15:53 An: Chris Bloy; amsat-bb@amsat.org Betreff: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-27 Telem

Hi Chris,

You can use your recording of the telemetry data. Simply connect the recording output into your modem. AMRAD hasn't published the telemetry decoding equations, so you have to use their software to convert the data to

their format and send it in to them for analysis.

Even though you can decode and store the data, the data is not very useful to you since you can't equate particular channels and values.

73, Gould ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Bloy" chris@photofuture.co.uk To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 9:04 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-27 Telem

Hi Gould,

Thank for that, I have looked at that page before, but its the actual decoding that I cannot seem to do.. I cannot quickly turn my TNC on when I am in voice mode, hence I though i could translate the recording so to speak..

Just for reference, I can only use my TH-D7 portable as I have no room for antennas at home..

thanks,

Chris

-----Original Message----- From: "Gould Smith" gouldsmi@bellsouth.net To: "Chris Bloy" chris@photofuture.co.uk, amsat-bb@amsat.org Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 08:57:34 -0500 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-27 Telem

Hello Chris,

Here is the information on logging and reporting the telemetry for AO-27.

http://www.ao27.org/AO27/tlm.shtml

73, Gould, WA4SXM ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Bloy" chris@photofuture.co.uk To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 8:12 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-27 Telem

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Hi All,

Can anyone tell me how to decode the telemetry from AO27?

I have tried to use MIXW in Packet mode and RTTY mode, but all I seem to get is the date and nothing else? I even tried to feed it through AGWE to see if that would work.. I use AO27 all the time and use a minidisc recorder to record my passes, and always capture the telem data at the end.. it would be good if someone could help me out on this one?

Thanks,

Chris

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Hi,

You can analyze this AO-27 telemetry (KISS frames) and you see the simple structure

1 Byte channel number + 1 Byte channel value (starting with Channel nr 07)

ctrl: 6 {I03^} PID: 2 {UNKNOWN} Total Frame Bytes: 131 1 > 07 00 08 AB 09 00 0A 98 0B 98 0C 00 0D 00 0E 00 0F 39 10 04 21 > 11 5C 12 08 13 00 14 83 15 82 16 80 17 7C 18 79 19 7D 1A 7A 41 > 1B 79 1C 60 1D 71 1E F2 1F 79 20 5B 21 79 22 7D 23 02 24 0D 61 > 25 9C 26 00 27 24 28 00 29 2C 2A 00 2B 00 2C 00 2D 47 2E 0C 81 > 2F 7C 30 7C 31 77 32 2E 33 03 34 78 35 78 36 79 37 79 50 6B 101 > 51 00 52 1A 53 00 FF 04

ctrl: 6 {I03^} PID: 2 {UNKNOWN} Total Frame Bytes: 131 1 > 07 00 08 AD 09 00 0A 99 0B 98 0C 00 0D 00 0E 00 0F 39 10 04 21 > 11 56 12 07 13 00 14 83 15 82 16 7E 17 7C 18 79 19 7F 1A 7A 41 > 1B 79 1C 62 1D 70 1E EE 1F 7A 20 5B 21 78 22 7D 23 02 24 0E 61 > 25 9A 26 00 27 45 28 00 29 09 2A 00 2B 00 2C 00 2D 4A 2E 0C 81 > 2F 7D 30 7B 31 77 32 27 33 00 34 78 35 78 36 79 37 79 50 6B 101 > 51 00 52 1A 53 00 FF 04

I found this but I believe it's not all (missing channels 07-15)

16 Bat 0 V: +1.900 -0.0041666 0.000 Volts 17 Bat 4 V: +1.900 -0.0041666 0.000 Volts 18 Bat 2 V: +1.900 -0.0041666 0.000 Volts 19 Bat 6 V: +1.900 -0.0041666 0.000 Volts 1A Bat 1 V: +1.900 -0.0041666 0.000 Volts 1B Bat 5 V: +1.900 -0.0041666 0.000 Volts 1C Bat 3 V: +1.900 -0.0041666 0.000 Volts 1D Bat 7 V: +1.900 -0.0041666 0.000 Volts 1E Solar Array V: +7.9650682 +0.0686763 0.000 Volts 1F 8 Bus Voltage: +7.0473333 +0.0113333 0.000 Volts 20 5 Bus Voltage: +3.7500000 +0.0125000 0.000 Volts 21 10 Bus Voltage: +8.1699655 +0.0204189 0.000 Volts 22 Battery #5: +145.08000 -0.9200000 0.000 Deg C. 23 10 Bus Current: -8.5766634 +4.6595804 +0.0090934 mAmps 24 8 BUS Current: -0.2637419 +1.9861031 -0.0002043 mAmps 25 5 BUS Current: -1.6011952 +5.3687733 -0.0001976 mAmps 26 -X Array Cur: +2.5393978 +1.2945522 0.0029869 mAmps 27 +X Array Cur: +3.8778891 +1.2337216 0.0034585 mAmps 28 -Y Array Cur: +1.9453662 +1.2869215 0.0036150 mAmps 29 +Y Array Cur: +0.8377529 +1.3201728 0.0030064 mAmps 2A -Z Array Cur: -5.1705101 +1.3962301 0.0002714 mAmps 2B +Z Array Cur: +3.7194087 +1.1232609 0.0041865 mAmps 2C External Cur: -1.3147137 +1.5779074 0.0013702 mAmps 2D BCR Input Cur: +9.8611991 +1.0931975 0.0099122 mAmps 2E BCR Output Cur: +0.000 +1.000 0.000 Countto 2F BCR Plate Temp: +145.08000 -0.9200000 0.000 Deg C. 30 BCR PC-Board: +145.08000 -0.9200000 0.000 Deg C. 31 Battery #0: +145.08000 -0.9200000 0.000 Deg C. 32 TX-A RF OUT: -21.995773 -8.1787836 +0.2143451 mWatts 33 TX-B RF OUT: -111.61003 -5.2876206 +0.2271923 mWatts 34 TX THER A: +140.69230 -0.8846154 0.000 Deg. C 35 TX THER B: +140.69230 -0.8846154 0.000 Deg. C 36 TX THER C: +140.69230 -0.8846154 0.000 Deg. C 37 TX THER D: +140.69230 -0.8846154 0.000 Deg. C 50 EDAC Counter: +0.0000000 +1.0000000 0.000 Count 51 Eclipse: +0.0000000 +1.0000000 0.000 Count 52 Set Point: +0.0000000 +1.0000000 0.000 Count 53 Tepr State: +0.0000000 +1.0000000 0.000 Count FF VERSION: +4.0 0.0000 0.000 Version

Parameter = An² + Bn + C

AO-27 is similar to IO-26 (or the other microsats AO-16 ... AO-19).

If someone of the AO-27 team could check this?

73, Mike DK3WN

Von: amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] Im Auftrag von SV1BSX Gesendet: Dienstag, 29. Januar 2008 15:55 An: Chris Bloy Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org Betreff: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-27 Telem

Hi Chris,

I think it's impossible the receiving of TLM without a TNC (hardware).

I tried also with "standalone" 1200Bps AFSK softwares for packet radio (like MIXW etc) without success.

And yes, the TLM is "ON" just for a few seconds at the beginning (and at the end) of each "active" pass.

73, Mak SV1BSX

----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Bloy" chris@photofuture.co.uk To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 15:12 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-27 Telem

Hi All,

Can anyone tell me how to decode the telemetry from AO27?

I have tried to use MIXW in Packet mode and RTTY mode, but all I seem to get is the date and nothing else? I even tried to feed it through AGWE to see if that would work.. I use AO27 all the time and use a minidisc recorder to record my passes, and always capture the telem data at the end.. it would be good if someone could help me out on this one?

Thanks,

Chris

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