Why don’t we see simple ¼ wave 75 ohm lines used as a first step in matching a 140 Ohm Helix to 50 ohms?
The ¼ wave line would give an easy 112 ohms and then it shouldn’t be that hard to do a little additional construction matching to get to 140?
(building a 2.4 GHz pop-out helix that compresses flat for launch)
Bob, WB4APR
----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Bruninga" [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 2:57 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Helix matching
Why don’t we see simple ¼ wave 75 ohm lines used as a first step in matching a 140 Ohm Helix to 50 ohms?
The ¼ wave line would give an easy 112 ohms and then it shouldn’t be that hard to do a little additional construction matching to get to 140?
(building a 2.4 GHz pop-out helix that compresses flat for launch)
Bob, WB4APR
Hi Bob, WA4APR
I have built a 10 turns and a 15 turns Helix for 70 cm using the above matching system wich works very well.
The characteristic impedance of my 1/4 wave matching line made of coaxial copper tubing is 88 ohm because SQR(150 x 50) = 88
The only adjustement necessary to get a VSWR close to 1 was to slip the reflector back and fort over the boom only a few centimeters to get the right position.
In a separate email I have sent to you the building drawing of my Helix antenna for 70 cm and a picture of my feed matching system for 2400 MHz.
For 2.4 GHz I believe that the simplest system to match a Helix is to solder many small strips of copper at the beginning of the first turn of the Helix over a lengt of 1/4 turn and adjust the distance of the strips from the reflector plate until the VSWR becomes close to 1 as possible and this is the system I use for the feed of my 2400 MHz 1.2 meters dish (see photo).
73" de i8CVS Domenico
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 08:57:50AM -0400, Robert Bruninga wrote:
Why don?t we see simple ? wave 75 ohm lines used as a first step in matching a 140 Ohm Helix to 50 ohms?
The ? wave line would give an easy 112 ohms and then it shouldn?t be that hard to do a little additional construction matching to get to 140?
(building a 2.4 GHz pop-out helix that compresses flat for launch)
Clare Fowler has a neat trick
http://ww2.amsat.org/amsat/archive/amsat-bb/200001/msg00507.html
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On 9/27/2013 8:57 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote:
Why don’t we see simple ¼ wave 75 ohm lines used as a first step in matching a 140 Ohm Helix to 50 ohms?
In my limited experience, it's easier to diddle around with a strip of brass or copper at the feed end of the Helix..
For example:
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/articles/g3ruh/117.html
I remember building a 1/4 wave coaxial matching section out of a piece of copper pipe with brass rod down the center. I think it was from a design in the ARRL antenna book as published in the late '70's. It was a pain to build since I had to sand down the brass rod to get it to the right diameter, and I was never really sure how well it worked, since I did not have any antenna instrumentation at the time.
-Joe KM1P
On 9/27/2013 6:05 PM, Joe Fitzgerald wrote:
In my limited experience, it's easier to diddle around with a strip of brass or copper at the feed end of the Helix..
In addition to being easier for my practically non-existent construction abilities, I think the strip of brass or copper might be more forgiving, too. It worked for my VE3NPC helix http://n0jy.org/Antennas.aspx http://n0jy.org/images/L%20Band%20Array-2.ppt but given my abilities, I'm not sure how!
Jerry N0JY
I used a "tab matching" method taught to me by Joe, K0VTY. Just a strip of copper following the first 90* of the helix. Adjust the distance to the wire for min. SWR. This was for L band antennas. Miss L & S stuff on satellites, and, you know. 73 Bob W7LRD
----- Original Message ----- From: "n0jy" [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 6:05:20 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Helix matching
On 9/27/2013 6:05 PM, Joe Fitzgerald wrote:
In my limited experience, it's easier to diddle around with a strip of brass or copper at the feed end of the Helix..
In addition to being easier for my practically non-existent construction abilities, I think the strip of brass or copper might be more forgiving, too. It worked for my VE3NPC helix http://n0jy.org/Antennas.aspx http://n0jy.org/images/L%20Band%20Array-2.ppt but given my abilities, I'm not sure how!
Jerry N0JY
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