Why do people start new threads when replying to a post on amsat-bb?
I have never seen this on any other mailing list.
Is it because the mailing list configuration sets "reply" to be the user who sent the email and not the list, and then it is easier to send an email to the list by starting a new thread as opposed to "reply all" and then having to edit out all the email addresses except amsat-bb?
If the information in the emails to this list is helpful to others who search google and find it in the archives, it will be harder to find if it's across multiple threads.
Additionally, not keeping things in thread makes it harder to follow a conversation and more difficult to manage email. If I am not interested in a particular thread I can just mark the whole thread read as opposed to two or three other threads.
If a reply to an original thread is truly a different subject then it is common practice to change the subject like so:
How do I search the archives? (was: Why do people start new threads when replying to a post on amsat-bb?)
73,
John, KG4AKV
So let's give this a try. I did a reply to all from gmail and it is sending both to you directly and also to the bb.
I seldom have this problem, but I suspect 2 or three variants of reasons:
1) The mail client you use employs something other than the subject to group conversations.
2) The mail client someone else uses does not keep the thread number
3) The most likely may be that they get a digest and start a new mail message rather than making the other common mistake of quoting the entire digest.
My ideas anyway. See if mine comes in the same conversation for you...
Burns
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:34 PM, John Brier johnbrier@gmail.com wrote:
I have never seen this on any other mailing list.
Is it because the mailing list configuration sets "reply" to be the user who sent the email and not the list, and then it is easier to send an email to the list by starting a new thread as opposed to "reply all" and then having to edit out all the email addresses except amsat-bb?
If the information in the emails to this list is helpful to others who search google and find it in the archives, it will be harder to find if it's across multiple threads.
Additionally, not keeping things in thread makes it harder to follow a conversation and more difficult to manage email. If I am not interested in a particular thread I can just mark the whole thread read as opposed to two or three other threads.
If a reply to an original thread is truly a different subject then it is common practice to change the subject like so:
How do I search the archives? (was: Why do people start new threads when replying to a post on amsat-bb?)
73,
John, KG4AKV _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
This is a legitimate reason:
3) The most likely may be that they get a digest and start a new mail message rather than making the other common mistake of quoting the entire digest.
There is no easy way around this, but it is helpful to try and use the same exact subject by copying and pasting.
It's not on my end, most emails are threaded fine.
Anyway, as someone has said off list, this is not likely to change everyone's behavior. It's just a slight pet peeve.
John, KG4AKV
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Burns Fisher burns@fisher.cc wrote:
So let's give this a try. I did a reply to all from gmail and it is sending both to you directly and also to the bb.
I seldom have this problem, but I suspect 2 or three variants of reasons:
- The mail client you use employs something other than the subject to group
conversations.
The mail client someone else uses does not keep the thread number
The most likely may be that they get a digest and start a new mail
message rather than making the other common mistake of quoting the entire digest.
My ideas anyway. See if mine comes in the same conversation for you...
Burns
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:34 PM, John Brier johnbrier@gmail.com wrote:
I have never seen this on any other mailing list.
Is it because the mailing list configuration sets "reply" to be the user who sent the email and not the list, and then it is easier to send an email to the list by starting a new thread as opposed to "reply all" and then having to edit out all the email addresses except amsat-bb?
If the information in the emails to this list is helpful to others who search google and find it in the archives, it will be harder to find if it's across multiple threads.
Additionally, not keeping things in thread makes it harder to follow a conversation and more difficult to manage email. If I am not interested in a particular thread I can just mark the whole thread read as opposed to two or three other threads.
If a reply to an original thread is truly a different subject then it is common practice to change the subject like so:
How do I search the archives? (was: Why do people start new threads when replying to a post on amsat-bb?)
73,
John, KG4AKV _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
I will try to be more diligent
NZ2Z/Bob - Sent from my iPad
On Jan 25, 2016, at 3:57 PM, John Brier johnbrier@gmail.com wrote:
This is a legitimate reason:
- The most likely may be that they get a digest and start a new mail
message rather than making the other common mistake of quoting the entire digest.
There is no easy way around this, but it is helpful to try and use the same exact subject by copying and pasting.
It's not on my end, most emails are threaded fine.
Anyway, as someone has said off list, this is not likely to change everyone's behavior. It's just a slight pet peeve.
John, KG4AKV
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Burns Fisher burns@fisher.cc wrote: So let's give this a try. I did a reply to all from gmail and it is sending both to you directly and also to the bb.
I seldom have this problem, but I suspect 2 or three variants of reasons:
- The mail client you use employs something other than the subject to group
conversations.
The mail client someone else uses does not keep the thread number
The most likely may be that they get a digest and start a new mail
message rather than making the other common mistake of quoting the entire digest.
My ideas anyway. See if mine comes in the same conversation for you...
Burns
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:34 PM, John Brier johnbrier@gmail.com wrote:
I have never seen this on any other mailing list.
Is it because the mailing list configuration sets "reply" to be the user who sent the email and not the list, and then it is easier to send an email to the list by starting a new thread as opposed to "reply all" and then having to edit out all the email addresses except amsat-bb?
If the information in the emails to this list is helpful to others who search google and find it in the archives, it will be harder to find if it's across multiple threads.
Additionally, not keeping things in thread makes it harder to follow a conversation and more difficult to manage email. If I am not interested in a particular thread I can just mark the whole thread read as opposed to two or three other threads.
If a reply to an original thread is truly a different subject then it is common practice to change the subject like so:
How do I search the archives? (was: Why do people start new threads when replying to a post on amsat-bb?)
73,
John, KG4AKV _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
Thanks Bob! On Jan 25, 2016 16:14, "Bob via AMSAT-BB" amsat-bb@amsat.org wrote:
I will try to be more diligent
NZ2Z/Bob - Sent from my iPad
On Jan 25, 2016, at 3:57 PM, John Brier johnbrier@gmail.com wrote:
This is a legitimate reason:
- The most likely may be that they get a digest and start a new mail
message rather than making the other common mistake of quoting the entire digest.
There is no easy way around this, but it is helpful to try and use the same exact subject by copying and pasting.
It's not on my end, most emails are threaded fine.
Anyway, as someone has said off list, this is not likely to change everyone's behavior. It's just a slight pet peeve.
John, KG4AKV
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Burns Fisher burns@fisher.cc wrote: So let's give this a try. I did a reply to all from gmail and it is
sending
both to you directly and also to the bb.
I seldom have this problem, but I suspect 2 or three variants of
reasons:
- The mail client you use employs something other than the subject to
group
conversations.
The mail client someone else uses does not keep the thread number
The most likely may be that they get a digest and start a new mail
message rather than making the other common mistake of quoting the
entire
digest.
My ideas anyway. See if mine comes in the same conversation for you...
Burns
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:34 PM, John Brier johnbrier@gmail.com
wrote:
I have never seen this on any other mailing list.
Is it because the mailing list configuration sets "reply" to be the user who sent the email and not the list, and then it is easier to send an email to the list by starting a new thread as opposed to "reply all" and then having to edit out all the email addresses except amsat-bb?
If the information in the emails to this list is helpful to others who search google and find it in the archives, it will be harder to find if it's across multiple threads.
Additionally, not keeping things in thread makes it harder to follow a conversation and more difficult to manage email. If I am not interested in a particular thread I can just mark the whole thread read as opposed to two or three other threads.
If a reply to an original thread is truly a different subject then it is common practice to change the subject like so:
How do I search the archives? (was: Why do people start new threads when replying to a post on amsat-bb?)
73,
John, KG4AKV _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions
expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
of
AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
John,
The main problem that I have seen with threads is that some people are just utterly unaware of the existence of threads. I have seem people even "recycling" threads that happen to have the right addressees in them. So pressing reply all and then changing the subject.
They are just blissfully unaware of how that is displayed on E-mail clients post 1990.
One other thing that happens to me a lot: people who are asking me a question in a thread with a completely unrelated subject. Often, I have just deleted the thread, because that's what I do. If the message is not about the subject, chances are that I have just deleted it.
Example: someone asking a technical question in a thread that has subject "activation of grid XYZ" wil not be seen by me, because I do not care about grids and delete all email with subjects related to grids.
Nothing against sending grid emails though, just to be sure that I don't upset someone.
Anyway, you may be attempting to herd coconuts, but maybe someone will take notice.
Wouter PA3WEG
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 8:34 PM, John Brier johnbrier@gmail.com wrote:
I have never seen this on any other mailing list.
Is it because the mailing list configuration sets "reply" to be the user who sent the email and not the list, and then it is easier to send an email to the list by starting a new thread as opposed to "reply all" and then having to edit out all the email addresses except amsat-bb?
If the information in the emails to this list is helpful to others who search google and find it in the archives, it will be harder to find if it's across multiple threads.
Additionally, not keeping things in thread makes it harder to follow a conversation and more difficult to manage email. If I am not interested in a particular thread I can just mark the whole thread read as opposed to two or three other threads.
If a reply to an original thread is truly a different subject then it is common practice to change the subject like so:
How do I search the archives? (was: Why do people start new threads when replying to a post on amsat-bb?)
73,
John, KG4AKV _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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