Good morning, I am wondering why there are not more folks on the birds using LOTW? I have a couple of people that show as LOTW users, however, they have not uploaded there Sat contacts, or I have a bad miss match which can happen. Being new I am still learning how some of this is working and have been using LOTW for years and I find it quite easy to work with depending on the software that is being used for logging. I know that this subject most likely has been addressed before, however, in this day and age with the cost of cards, postage and envelopes it gets quite costly to be sending out many cards to obtain awards. Another thing that I have not seen is if for some of the Amsat awards if LOTW could be used for the awards if you can show a screenshot of the matches via there system.
The reason I ask is when you look at the cost of cards, then postage and envelopes, the cost can be quite high and if doing SASE the cost even goes higher. I know if your working non-USA contacts you can use the bureau which is fine, just domestic stuff it is thru the roof. In many cases, you could be 2 to 3 dollars per confirmation.
Jim
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there are probably more sat users on lotw than you think. As of right now I have 594 grids confirmed, all in LOTW. The majority of satellite qsos that I have made in the past two years have all been confirmed in lotw, only about 10-15 or so via card.
- Matthew nj4y
On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 8:08 AM James McIrvin [email protected] wrote:
Good morning, I am wondering why there are not more folks on the birds using LOTW? I have a couple of people that show as LOTW users, however, they have not uploaded there Sat contacts, or I have a bad miss match which can happen. Being new I am still learning how some of this is working and have been using LOTW for years and I find it quite easy to work with depending on the software that is being used for logging. I know that this subject most likely has been addressed before, however, in this day and age with the cost of cards, postage and envelopes it gets quite costly to be sending out many cards to obtain awards. Another thing that I have not seen is if for some of the Amsat awards if LOTW could be used for the awards if you can show a screenshot of the matches via there system.
The reason I ask is when you look at the cost of cards, then postage and envelopes, the cost can be quite high and if doing SASE the cost even goes higher. I know if your working non-USA contacts you can use the bureau which is fine, just domestic stuff it is thru the roof. In many cases, you could be 2 to 3 dollars per confirmation.
Jim
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When I earned my VUCC Satellite a couple of months ago, about 70 contacts were in LoTW and about 30 were cards.
Interestingly (I guess), I've found that AMSAT folks are better at using LoTW than the straight key morse code group I belong to.
Steve AI9IN
On 2019-02-26 08:42, Matthew Stevens wrote:
Good morning, I am wondering why there are not more folks on the birds using LOTW? there are probably more sat users on lotw than you think. As of right now I have 594 grids confirmed, all in LOTW. The majority of satellite qsos that I have made in the past two years have all been confirmed in lotw, only about 10-15 or so via card.
- Matthew nj4y
On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 8:08 AM James McIrvin [email protected] wrote:
FWIW - when doing research for some improvements we're doing to Ham Radio Deluxe, I found this:
https://lotw.arrl.org/lotw-help/satellite-qsos/
What caught my attention is this comment:
"LoTW wants the Satellite Name entered exactly as on the list of accepted satellites. For instance, if you enter the satellite name as AO7 instead of AO-7 the data will be rejected during the upload"
The "list of accepted satellites" is found here:
https://lotw.arrl.org/lotw-help/frequently-asked-questions/#sats
The ADIF file you upload through TQSL or your favorite logging program needs to have these two fields in order for LOTW to consider it a satellite QSO.
Propagation Mode: <PROP_MODE:3>SAT Satellite Name: <SAT_NAME:4>AO-7 (Using AO-7 as an example. It can't be AO-07, AA07... and so on. It has to be exactly AO-7.)
Bottom line is - if these two fields don't exist, or don't contain the correct data for the upload you or your peer submit, then LOTW will reject them and they won't match. The net result of this could be that folks get the impression that the satellite operators aren't using LOTW.
What we're doing with Ham Radio Deluxe is pre-populating the list of satellites and we'll be automatically setting "Propagation Mode" when a satellite is selected from the list. That way, you won't have to worry about getting all this stuff done and spelled correctly. We'll take the work out of it for you. As it is today, you have to type it in correctly and it works fine... but I think some folks may miss things unintentionally. (I expect these changes to come before Dayton.)
Mike, WA9PIE
On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 7:50 AM [email protected] wrote:
When I earned my VUCC Satellite a couple of months ago, about 70 contacts were in LoTW and about 30 were cards.
Interestingly (I guess), I've found that AMSAT folks are better at using LoTW than the straight key morse code group I belong to.
Steve AI9IN
On 2019-02-26 08:42, Matthew Stevens wrote:
Good morning, I am wondering why there are not more folks on the birds using LOTW? there are probably more sat users on lotw than you think. As of right
now I
have 594 grids confirmed, all in LOTW. The majority of satellite qsos
that
I have made in the past two years have all been confirmed in lotw, only about 10-15 or so via card.
- Matthew nj4y
On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 8:08 AM James McIrvin [email protected]
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Note that the list on the ARRL's website has not been updated with the recent additions of JO-97, FO-99, and QO-100. Also, it lists "EO88", but the correct name in the LoTW configuration file is "EO-88"
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 11:36 AM Michael Carper, Ph.D. via AMSAT-BB < [email protected]> wrote:
FWIW - when doing research for some improvements we're doing to Ham Radio Deluxe, I found this:
https://lotw.arrl.org/lotw-help/satellite-qsos/
What caught my attention is this comment:
"LoTW wants the Satellite Name entered exactly as on the list of accepted satellites. For instance, if you enter the satellite name as AO7 instead of AO-7 the data will be rejected during the upload"
The "list of accepted satellites" is found here:
https://lotw.arrl.org/lotw-help/frequently-asked-questions/#sats
The ADIF file you upload through TQSL or your favorite logging program needs to have these two fields in order for LOTW to consider it a satellite QSO.
Propagation Mode: <PROP_MODE:3>SAT Satellite Name: <SAT_NAME:4>AO-7 (Using AO-7 as an example. It can't be AO-07, AA07... and so on. It has to be exactly AO-7.)
Bottom line is - if these two fields don't exist, or don't contain the correct data for the upload you or your peer submit, then LOTW will reject them and they won't match. The net result of this could be that folks get the impression that the satellite operators aren't using LOTW.
What we're doing with Ham Radio Deluxe is pre-populating the list of satellites and we'll be automatically setting "Propagation Mode" when a satellite is selected from the list. That way, you won't have to worry about getting all this stuff done and spelled correctly. We'll take the work out of it for you. As it is today, you have to type it in correctly and it works fine... but I think some folks may miss things unintentionally. (I expect these changes to come before Dayton.)
Mike, WA9PIE
On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 7:50 AM [email protected] wrote:
When I earned my VUCC Satellite a couple of months ago, about 70 contacts were in LoTW and about 30 were cards.
Interestingly (I guess), I've found that AMSAT folks are better at using LoTW than the straight key morse code group I belong to.
Steve AI9IN
On 2019-02-26 08:42, Matthew Stevens wrote:
Good morning, I am wondering why there are not more folks on the birds using LOTW? there are probably more sat users on lotw than you think. As of right
now I
have 594 grids confirmed, all in LOTW. The majority of satellite qsos
that
I have made in the past two years have all been confirmed in lotw,
only
about 10-15 or so via card.
- Matthew nj4y
On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 8:08 AM James McIrvin [email protected]
wrote: _______________________________________________ Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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SAT/LoTW Users,
ARRL does not give much attention to Satellite LoTW users and/or operations - IMHO. If there is something needing to be done for DXCC-HF, they fall over themselves working on it - again, IMHO. Maybe we should bombard various League Officials with e-mails to get their attention? I'm not suggesting this as a solution, just a question in the recesses of my mind.
Perhaps, a knowledgeable person from the SAT Community could work with a willing person at the ARRL. They might be able to get things corrected and up-to-date some day. HIHI
GL/73, Bob K8BL
(50+ Year ARRL Member, AMSAT Member since 1979)
On Tuesday, February 26, 2019, 12:01:46 PM CST, Paul Stoetzer [email protected] wrote:
Note that the list on the ARRL's website has not been updated with the recent additions of JO-97, FO-99, and QO-100. Also, it lists "EO88", but the correct name in the LoTW configuration file is "EO-88"
73,
Paul, N8HM
Wow, this must be a record for submitting to the group.
check this out.
http://www.satnews.com/story.php?number=113102955
Our 'skies' will certainly need those space-junk-gathering sats soon.
73 Christy KB6LTY
There is an article about using LoTW for logging satellite QSOs on the AMSAT web posted at: https://www.amsat.org/logging-satellite-qsos-with-logbook-of-the-world/ Some examples such as the list of satellites have been updated since the web page was put up.
It is among many tips and pointers on the Station and Operating Hints page at: https://www.amsat.org/station-and-operating-hints/
-- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM [email protected]
+ AA6YQ comments below
SAT/LoTW Users,
ARRL does not give much attention to Satellite LoTW users and/or operations - IMHO. If there is something needing to be done for DXCC-HF, they fall over themselves working on it - again, IMHO.
+ From late 2012 through 2017, the addition of new functionality to LoTW was suspended so that the ARRL's small IT staff could focus on making the LoTW Server reliable and scalable. After that task was successfully completed, the announced but long-delayed support for CQ WAZ awards was implemented and released; note that this award includes 6m, as well as HF bands.
+ Since CQ WAZ was released last April, no new functionality has been added to LoTW because the IT staff are working on other projects.
Maybe we should bombard various League Officials with e-mails to get their attention? I'm not suggesting this as a solution, just a question in the recesses of my mind.
Perhaps, a knowledgeable person from the SAT Community could work with a willing person at the ARRL. They might be able to get things corrected and up-to-date some day. HIHI
+ Your efforts will likely be more effective if you describe what is need of correction, and what is in need of updating. Perhaps this will help:
https://lotw.arrl.org/lotw-help/satellite-qsos/?lang=en
+ LoTW is currently aware of these Satellites; note that JO-97, FO-99, and QO-100 are included:
<satellite name="AO-10" startDate="1983-06-16">AMSAT-OSCAR 10</satellite> <satellite name="AO-13" startDate="1988-06-15" endDate="1996-12-07">AMSAT-OSCAR 13</satellite> <satellite name="AO-16" startDate="1990-01-22">AMSAT-OSCAR 16</satellite> <satellite name="AO-21" startDate="1991-01-29" endDate="1994-09-16">OSCAR 21/RS-14</satellite> <satellite name="AO-27" startDate="1993-09-26">AMRAD-OSCAR 27</satellite> <satellite name="AO-3" startDate="1965-03-18" endDate="1965-03-27">AMSAT-OSCAR 3</satellite> <satellite name="AO-4" startDate="1965-12-21" endDate="1966-03-16">AMSAT-OSCAR 4</satellite> <satellite name="AO-40" startDate="2000-11-16" endDate="2004-01-25">AMSAT-OSCAR 40</satellite> <satellite name="AO-51" startDate="2004-06-29" endDate="2011-11-29">AMSAT-OSCAR 51</satellite> <satellite name="AO-6" startDate="1972-10-15" endDate="1977-06-21">AMSAT-OSCAR 6</satellite> <satellite name="AO-7" startDate="1974-11-15">AMSAT-OSCAR 7</satellite> <satellite name="AO-73" startDate="2013-11-21">AMSAT-OSCAR 73</satellite> <satellite name="AO-8" startDate="1978-03-15" endDate="1983-06-24">AMSAT-OSCAR 8</satellite> <satellite name="AO-85" startDate="2015-10-09">AMSAT-OSCAR 85 (Fox-1A)</satellite> <satellite name="AO-91" startDate="2017-11-23">AMSAT-OSCAR 91 (RadFxSat / Fox-1B)</satellite> <satellite name="AO-92" startDate="2018-01-12">AMSAT-OSCAR 92 (Fox-1D)</satellite> <satellite name="ARISS" startDate="1998-11-20">ARISS</satellite> <satellite name="Arsene" startDate="1993-05-13" endDate="1993-09-10">OSCAR 24</satellite> <satellite name="BY70-1" startDate="2016-12-28" endDate="2017-02-17">Bayi Kepu Weixing 1</satellite> <satellite name="CAS-3H" startDate="2015-09-18">LilacSat-2</satellite> <satellite name="CAS-4A" startDate="2017-10-18">CAMSAT 4A (CAS-4A)</satellite> <satellite name="CAS-4B" startDate="2017-10-18">CAMSAT 4B (CAS-4B)</satellite> <satellite name="DO-64" startDate="2008-04-28">Delfi OSCAR-64</satellite> <satellite name="EO-79" startDate="2014-06-19">FUNcube-3</satellite> <satellite name="EO-88" startDate="2017-02-15">Emirates-OSCAR 88 (Nayif-1)</satellite> <satellite name="FO-12" startDate="1986-08-12" endDate="1989-11-05">Fuji-OSCAR 12</satellite> <satellite name="FO-20" startDate="1990-02-07">Fuji-OSCAR 20</satellite> <satellite name="FO-29" startDate="1996-07-17">Fuji-OSCAR 29</satellite> <satellite name="FO-99" startDate="2019-01-26">Fuji-OSCAR 99 (NEXUS)</satellite> <satellite name="FS-3" startDate="2017-09-24">FalconSAT 3</satellite> <satellite name="HO-68" startDate="2009-12-15">Hope-Oscar 68</satellite> <satellite name="IO-86" startDate="2015-09-28">Indonesia-OSCAR 86 (LAPAN-ORARI)</satellite> <satellite name="JO-97" startDate="2018-12-08">Jordan-OSCAR 97(JY1Sat)</satellite> <satellite name="KEDR" startDate="2011-08-03" endDate="2012-01-04">ARISSat-1</satellite> <satellite name="LO-19" startDate="1990-01-22">Lusat-OSCAR 19</satellite> <satellite name="LO-78" startDate="2014-04-22" endDate="2014-07-28">LituanicaSAT-1</satellite> <satellite name="LO-87" startDate="2016-05-30">LUSEX-OSCAR 87</satellite> <satellite name="LO-90" startDate="2017-05-25">LilacSat-OSCAR 90 (LilacSat-1)</satellite> <satellite name="MIREX" startDate="1991-02-01" endDate="2000-06-16">MIR Packet Digipeater</satellite> <satellite name="NO-44" startDate="2001-09-30">Navy-OSCAR 44</satellite> <satellite name="NO-83" startDate="2015-05-20">BRICsat</satellite> <satellite name="NO-84" startDate="2015-05-20">PSAT</satellite> <satellite name="QO-100" startDate="2019-02-02">Qatar-OSCAR 100 (Es'hail-2/P4A)</satellite> <satellite name="RS-1" startDate="1978-10-26" endDate="1979-02-01">Radio Sputnik 1</satellite> <satellite name="RS-10" startDate="1987-06-23" endDate="2000-11-01">Radio Sputnik 10</satellite> <satellite name="RS-11" startDate="1987-06-23" endDate="2000-11-01">Radio Sputnik 11</satellite> <satellite name="RS-12" startDate="1991-02-05" endDate="2002-02-15">Radio Sputnik 12</satellite> <satellite name="RS-13" startDate="1991-02-05" endDate="2002-02-15">Radio Sputnik 13</satellite> <satellite name="RS-15" startDate="1994-12-16">Radio Sputnik 15</satellite> <satellite name="RS-2" startDate="1978-10-26" endDate="1979-02-01">Radio Sputnik 2</satellite> <satellite name="RS-5" startDate="1981-12-17" endDate="1987-05-10">Radio Sputnik 5</satellite> <satellite name="RS-6" startDate="1981-12-17" endDate="1984-12-09">Radio Sputnik 6</satellite> <satellite name="RS-7" startDate="1981-12-18" endDate="1987-06-01">Radio Sputnik 7</satellite> <satellite name="RS-8" startDate="1981-12-17" endDate="1985-12-16">Radio Sputnik 8</satellite> <satellite name="SAREX" startDate="1990-12-02" endDate="1999-07-28">Shuttle Amateur Radio Experiment (SAREX) Digipeater</satellite> <satellite name="SO-35" startDate="1999-02-23" endDate="2001-06-10">Sunsat-OSCAR 35</satellite> <satellite name="SO-41" startDate="2000-09-26">Saudi-OSCAR 41</satellite> <satellite name="SO-50" startDate="2002-12-20">Saudi-OSCAR 50</satellite> <satellite name="SO-67" startDate="2009-09-17">Sumbandila Oscar 67</satellite> <satellite name="UKUBE1" startDate="2016-06-01">UKube-1 (FUNcube-2)</satellite> <satellite name="UO-14" startDate="1990-01-22">UOSAT-OSCAR 14</satellite> <satellite name="VO-52" startDate="2005-05-05" endDate="2014-07-11">VUsat-OSCAR 52</satellite> <satellite name="XW-2A" startDate="2015-09-18">Hope 2A (CAS-3A)</satellite> <satellite name="XW-2B" startDate="2015-09-18">Hope 2B (CAS-3B)</satellite> <satellite name="XW-2C" startDate="2015-09-18">Hope 2C (CAS-3C)</satellite> <satellite name="XW-2D" startDate="2015-09-18">Hope 2D (CAS-3D)</satellite> <satellite name="XW-2E" startDate="2015-09-18">Hope 2E (CAS-3E)</satellite> <satellite name="XW-2F" startDate="2015-09-18">Hope 2F (CAS-2F)</satellite>
73,
Dave, AA6YQ
Dave.... Good info. TNX/73, Bob K8BL On Tuesday, February 26, 2019, 2:16:17 PM CST, Dave AA6YQ [email protected] wrote:
+ AA6YQ comments below
SAT/LoTW Users,
ARRL does not give much attention to Satellite LoTW users and/or operations - IMHO. If there is something needing to be done for DXCC-HF, they fall over themselves working on it - again, IMHO.
+ From late 2012 through 2017, the addition of new functionality to LoTW was suspended so that the ARRL's small IT staff could focus on making the LoTW Server reliable and scalable. After that task was successfully completed, the announced but long-delayed support for CQ WAZ awards was implemented and released; note that this award includes 6m, as well as HF bands.
+ Since CQ WAZ was released last April, no new functionality has been added to LoTW because the IT staff are working on other projects.
Maybe we should bombard various League Officials with e-mails to get their attention? I'm not suggesting this as a solution, just a question in the recesses of my mind.
Perhaps, a knowledgeable person from the SAT Community could work with a willing person at the ARRL. They might be able to get things corrected and up-to-date some day. HIHI
+ Your efforts will likely be more effective if you describe what is need of correction, and what is in need of updating. Perhaps this will help:
https://lotw.arrl.org/lotw-help/satellite-qsos/?lang=en
+ LoTW is currently aware of these Satellites; note that JO-97, FO-99, and QO-100 are included:
<satellite name="AO-10" startDate="1983-06-16">AMSAT-OSCAR 10</satellite> <satellite name="AO-13" startDate="1988-06-15" endDate="1996-12-07">AMSAT-OSCAR 13</satellite> <satellite name="AO-16" startDate="1990-01-22">AMSAT-OSCAR 16</satellite> <satellite name="AO-21" startDate="1991-01-29" endDate="1994-09-16">OSCAR 21/RS-14</satellite> <satellite name="AO-27" startDate="1993-09-26">AMRAD-OSCAR 27</satellite> <satellite name="AO-3" startDate="1965-03-18" endDate="1965-03-27">AMSAT-OSCAR 3</satellite> <satellite name="AO-4" startDate="1965-12-21" endDate="1966-03-16">AMSAT-OSCAR 4</satellite> <satellite name="AO-40" startDate="2000-11-16" endDate="2004-01-25">AMSAT-OSCAR 40</satellite> <satellite name="AO-51" startDate="2004-06-29" endDate="2011-11-29">AMSAT-OSCAR 51</satellite> <satellite name="AO-6" startDate="1972-10-15" endDate="1977-06-21">AMSAT-OSCAR 6</satellite> <satellite name="AO-7" startDate="1974-11-15">AMSAT-OSCAR 7</satellite> <satellite name="AO-73" startDate="2013-11-21">AMSAT-OSCAR 73</satellite> <satellite name="AO-8" startDate="1978-03-15" endDate="1983-06-24">AMSAT-OSCAR 8</satellite> <satellite name="AO-85" startDate="2015-10-09">AMSAT-OSCAR 85 (Fox-1A)</satellite> <satellite name="AO-91" startDate="2017-11-23">AMSAT-OSCAR 91 (RadFxSat / Fox-1B)</satellite> <satellite name="AO-92" startDate="2018-01-12">AMSAT-OSCAR 92 (Fox-1D)</satellite> <satellite name="ARISS" startDate="1998-11-20">ARISS</satellite> <satellite name="Arsene" startDate="1993-05-13" endDate="1993-09-10">OSCAR 24</satellite> <satellite name="BY70-1" startDate="2016-12-28" endDate="2017-02-17">Bayi Kepu Weixing 1</satellite> <satellite name="CAS-3H" startDate="2015-09-18">LilacSat-2</satellite> <satellite name="CAS-4A" startDate="2017-10-18">CAMSAT 4A (CAS-4A)</satellite> <satellite name="CAS-4B" startDate="2017-10-18">CAMSAT 4B (CAS-4B)</satellite> <satellite name="DO-64" startDate="2008-04-28">Delfi OSCAR-64</satellite> <satellite name="EO-79" startDate="2014-06-19">FUNcube-3</satellite> <satellite name="EO-88" startDate="2017-02-15">Emirates-OSCAR 88 (Nayif-1)</satellite> <satellite name="FO-12" startDate="1986-08-12" endDate="1989-11-05">Fuji-OSCAR 12</satellite> <satellite name="FO-20" startDate="1990-02-07">Fuji-OSCAR 20</satellite> <satellite name="FO-29" startDate="1996-07-17">Fuji-OSCAR 29</satellite> <satellite name="FO-99" startDate="2019-01-26">Fuji-OSCAR 99 (NEXUS)</satellite> <satellite name="FS-3" startDate="2017-09-24">FalconSAT 3</satellite> <satellite name="HO-68" startDate="2009-12-15">Hope-Oscar 68</satellite> <satellite name="IO-86" startDate="2015-09-28">Indonesia-OSCAR 86 (LAPAN-ORARI)</satellite> <satellite name="JO-97" startDate="2018-12-08">Jordan-OSCAR 97(JY1Sat)</satellite> <satellite name="KEDR" startDate="2011-08-03" endDate="2012-01-04">ARISSat-1</satellite> <satellite name="LO-19" startDate="1990-01-22">Lusat-OSCAR 19</satellite> <satellite name="LO-78" startDate="2014-04-22" endDate="2014-07-28">LituanicaSAT-1</satellite> <satellite name="LO-87" startDate="2016-05-30">LUSEX-OSCAR 87</satellite> <satellite name="LO-90" startDate="2017-05-25">LilacSat-OSCAR 90 (LilacSat-1)</satellite> <satellite name="MIREX" startDate="1991-02-01" endDate="2000-06-16">MIR Packet Digipeater</satellite> <satellite name="NO-44" startDate="2001-09-30">Navy-OSCAR 44</satellite> <satellite name="NO-83" startDate="2015-05-20">BRICsat</satellite> <satellite name="NO-84" startDate="2015-05-20">PSAT</satellite> <satellite name="QO-100" startDate="2019-02-02">Qatar-OSCAR 100 (Es'hail-2/P4A)</satellite> <satellite name="RS-1" startDate="1978-10-26" endDate="1979-02-01">Radio Sputnik 1</satellite> <satellite name="RS-10" startDate="1987-06-23" endDate="2000-11-01">Radio Sputnik 10</satellite> <satellite name="RS-11" startDate="1987-06-23" endDate="2000-11-01">Radio Sputnik 11</satellite> <satellite name="RS-12" startDate="1991-02-05" endDate="2002-02-15">Radio Sputnik 12</satellite> <satellite name="RS-13" startDate="1991-02-05" endDate="2002-02-15">Radio Sputnik 13</satellite> <satellite name="RS-15" startDate="1994-12-16">Radio Sputnik 15</satellite> <satellite name="RS-2" startDate="1978-10-26" endDate="1979-02-01">Radio Sputnik 2</satellite> <satellite name="RS-5" startDate="1981-12-17" endDate="1987-05-10">Radio Sputnik 5</satellite> <satellite name="RS-6" startDate="1981-12-17" endDate="1984-12-09">Radio Sputnik 6</satellite> <satellite name="RS-7" startDate="1981-12-18" endDate="1987-06-01">Radio Sputnik 7</satellite> <satellite name="RS-8" startDate="1981-12-17" endDate="1985-12-16">Radio Sputnik 8</satellite> <satellite name="SAREX" startDate="1990-12-02" endDate="1999-07-28">Shuttle Amateur Radio Experiment (SAREX) Digipeater</satellite> <satellite name="SO-35" startDate="1999-02-23" endDate="2001-06-10">Sunsat-OSCAR 35</satellite> <satellite name="SO-41" startDate="2000-09-26">Saudi-OSCAR 41</satellite> <satellite name="SO-50" startDate="2002-12-20">Saudi-OSCAR 50</satellite> <satellite name="SO-67" startDate="2009-09-17">Sumbandila Oscar 67</satellite> <satellite name="UKUBE1" startDate="2016-06-01">UKube-1 (FUNcube-2)</satellite> <satellite name="UO-14" startDate="1990-01-22">UOSAT-OSCAR 14</satellite> <satellite name="VO-52" startDate="2005-05-05" endDate="2014-07-11">VUsat-OSCAR 52</satellite> <satellite name="XW-2A" startDate="2015-09-18">Hope 2A (CAS-3A)</satellite> <satellite name="XW-2B" startDate="2015-09-18">Hope 2B (CAS-3B)</satellite> <satellite name="XW-2C" startDate="2015-09-18">Hope 2C (CAS-3C)</satellite> <satellite name="XW-2D" startDate="2015-09-18">Hope 2D (CAS-3D)</satellite> <satellite name="XW-2E" startDate="2015-09-18">Hope 2E (CAS-3E)</satellite> <satellite name="XW-2F" startDate="2015-09-18">Hope 2F (CAS-2F)</satellite>
73,
Dave, AA6YQ
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R.T. and Team,
The satellite list is carried in TQSL which is revised frequently. A release came out on February 4, 2019 adding JO-97, FO-99 and QO-100 to the list of supported satellites. That should pretty much bring them up to date. I am sure everyone is keeping their TQSL version current as that is where these additions reside. Going back through the TSQL Change Log it looks to me like most everything is there. In the January 23, 2017 TQSL Update they even added "SAREX" and "MIREX" to catch old QSO's that may be coming along as people enter paper logs from the good old days to the LoTW.
And, yes, as far as syntax goes gotta use the right name or things don't work quite right. But, heck, SATpc32 is exactly the same. Trying to write code to cover every possible "creative" use of a satellite name can run to hundreds if not thousands of lines of code and it really serves no purpose other than allowing us, the end users, to be very sloppy.
So bottom line to me is the ARRL is not as unresponsive as it may seem. So like I said, I am sure everyone has updated to the latest release (February 14, 2019 config.xml v11.7). If you have done that you are ready to log QSO's through FO-99, JO-97 and if you are lucky enough to live in the covered part of the globe QO-100.
73,
John K4SQC
On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 2:53 PM R.T.Liddy [email protected] wrote:
SAT/LoTW Users,
ARRL does not give much attention to Satellite LoTW users and/or operations - IMHO. If there is something needing to be done for DXCC-HF, they fall over themselves working on it - again, IMHO. Maybe we should bombard various League Officials with e-mails to get their attention? I'm not suggesting this as a solution, just a question in the recesses of my mind.
Perhaps, a knowledgeable person from the SAT Community could work with a willing person at the ARRL. They might be able to get things corrected and up-to-date some day. HIHI
GL/73, Bob K8BL
(50+ Year ARRL Member, AMSAT Member since 1979)
On Tuesday, February 26, 2019, 12:01:46 PM CST, Paul Stoetzer < [email protected]> wrote:
Note that the list on the ARRL's website has not been updated with the recent additions of JO-97, FO-99, and QO-100. Also, it lists "EO88", but the correct name in the LoTW configuration file is "EO-88"
73,
Paul, N8HM
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John,
LoTW having to satisfy the numerous Logging Programs in use has to be a total nightmare and next to impossible. I use DX4WIN and it is NOT Satellite friendly and very much out of date. Much of the time I need to add my SAT QSOs to LoTW manually. Fortunately, doing it that way allows me to always use the correct syntax wanted by LoTW and the proper names they use for each SAT. My roving QSOs on SAT are also entered manually when transcribed from my digital recorder. Glad to hear the ARRL/LoTW Team is doing much better with the SATs.
TNX/73, Bob K8BL
On Tuesday, February 26, 2019, 2:16:31 PM CST, John Kludt [email protected] wrote:
R.T. and Team,
The satellite list is carried in TQSL which is revised frequently. A release came out on February 4, 2019 adding JO-97, FO-99 and QO-100 to the list of supported satellites. That should pretty much bring them up to date. I am sure everyone is keeping their TQSL version current as that is where these additions reside. Going back through the TSQL Change Log it looks to me like most everything is there. In the January 23, 2017 TQSL Update they even added "SAREX" and "MIREX" to catch old QSO's that may be coming along as people enter paper logs from the good old days to the LoTW.
And, yes, as far as syntax goes gotta use the right name or things don't work quite right. But, heck, SATpc32 is exactly the same. Trying to write code to cover every possible "creative" use of a satellite name can run to hundreds if not thousands of lines of code and it really serves no purpose other than allowing us, the end users, to be very sloppy.
So bottom line to me is the ARRL is not as unresponsive as it may seem. So like I said, I am sure everyone has updated to the latest release (February 14, 2019 config.xml v11.7). If you have done that you are ready to log QSO's through FO-99, JO-97 and if you are lucky enough to live in the covered part of the globe QO-100.
73,
John K4SQC
I only put this out as a general question to the group. I know that DXLab Suite is pretty good to work with and I have used it for years. I tried another program that I liked the looks of and it hosed my log up from years past and I have not tried to get it fixed up yet. As of right now, I am only using a log that I have set up for Sat logging because that is the only thing that I am working on as of right now. But the thing that I was mentioning was that some of the folks that I have worked don't seem to do anything with LOTW and as to E-crap, ( phishing card ), I don't use that for anything. I have uploaded to it in the past, however, as of right now I can't even get into that one and that will be fixed someday when I take the time to get into that. Another story. However, as I was alluding to before was that also I have a couple of folks that I have worked and they don't seem to have uploaded any Sat's. So I will have to wait on them.
Now someone had mentioned about talking to the league, well don't waste your breath, they don't seem to care about the little guy as much as those that send in big money for contesting stations and things like that. The one thing that still has not been answered is if going for a AMSAT award is LOTW usable or not? If used with a screen shot? I am still very new to the Sats and I have been having a lot of fun with them and they have given me more reason to try to get on the air. Some of the stuff is out there now for modes is like shooting ducks in a barrel. Just to easy to work those modes. Many years ago I did some paper chase work and have some wallpaper to hang if I wanted, and then there is some that I have not gone for the Certificate because of the cost, however I know that I have done it and if someone wants to see those that I have not gone for you will find them on the LOTW page if I have logged in. Things like triple play have paper, 20m WAS RTTY, DXCC digital, and some others, but like 9 band JT65 the cost for that piece is more then I want to pay for. Like I said this work on the sats have given me more to work on besides and I have learning a lot and want to continue with it. Just would be nice to see more folks use the program that is out there and then at least do the upload via your logging software. Just some of my thoughts and replies to those that have responded so far.
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On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 3:42 PM R.T.Liddy [email protected] wrote:
John,
LoTW having to satisfy the numerous Logging Programs in use has to be a total nightmare and next to impossible. I use DX4WIN and it is NOT Satellite friendly and very much out of date. Much of the time I need to add my SAT QSOs to LoTW manually. Fortunately, doing it that way allows me to always use the correct syntax wanted by LoTW and the proper names they use for each SAT. My roving QSOs on SAT are also entered manually when transcribed from my digital recorder. Glad to hear the ARRL/LoTW Team is doing much better with the SATs.
TNX/73, Bob K8BL
On Tuesday, February 26, 2019, 2:16:31 PM CST, John Kludt < [email protected]> wrote:
R.T. and Team,
The satellite list is carried in TQSL which is revised frequently. A release came out on February 4, 2019 adding JO-97, FO-99 and QO-100 to the list of supported satellites. That should pretty much bring them up to date. I am sure everyone is keeping their TQSL version current as that is where these additions reside. Going back through the TSQL Change Log it looks to me like most everything is there. In the January 23, 2017 TQSL Update they even added "SAREX" and "MIREX" to catch old QSO's that may be coming along as people enter paper logs from the good old days to the LoTW.
And, yes, as far as syntax goes gotta use the right name or things don't work quite right. But, heck, SATpc32 is exactly the same. Trying to write code to cover every possible "creative" use of a satellite name can run to hundreds if not thousands of lines of code and it really serves no purpose other than allowing us, the end users, to be very sloppy.
So bottom line to me is the ARRL is not as unresponsive as it may seem. So like I said, I am sure everyone has updated to the latest release (February 14, 2019 config.xml v11.7). If you have done that you are ready to log QSO's through FO-99, JO-97 and if you are lucky enough to live in the covered part of the globe QO-100.
73,
John K4SQC
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Logging applications should populate their "Satellite Selectors" with the list of satellite names provided in LoTW's Configuration Data file; this will enable users to easily and correctly log QSOs that will be accepted when submitted to LoTW.
Note that each satellite QSOs submitted to LoTW must specify a "Propagation Mode" of SAT -- another opportunity for automation in the logging application.
73,
Dave, AA6YQ
LoTW having to satisfy the numerous Logging Programs in use has to be a total nightmare and next to impossible. I use DX4WIN and it is NOT Satellite friendly and very much out of date. Much of the time I need to add my SAT QSOs to LoTW manually. Fortunately, doing it that way allows me to always use the correct syntax wanted by LoTW and the proper names they use for each SAT. My roving QSOs on SAT are also entered manually when transcribed from my digital recorder. Glad to hear the ARRL/LoTW Team is doing much better with the SATs.
TNX/73, Bob K8BL
On Tuesday, February 26, 2019, 2:16:31 PM CST, John Kludt [email protected] wrote:
R.T. and Team,
The satellite list is carried in TQSL which is revised frequently. A release came out on February 4, 2019 adding JO-97, FO-99 and QO-100 to the list of supported satellites. That should pretty much bring them up to date. I am sure everyone is keeping their TQSL version current as that is where these additions reside. Going back through the TSQL Change Log it looks to me like most everything is there. In the January 23, 2017 TQSL Update they even added "SAREX" and "MIREX" to catch old QSO's that may be coming along as people enter paper logs from the good old days to the LoTW.
And, yes, as far as syntax goes gotta use the right name or things don't work quite right. But, heck, SATpc32 is exactly the same. Trying to write code to cover every possible "creative" use of a satellite name can run to hundreds if not thousands of lines of code and it really serves no purpose other than allowing us, the end users, to be very sloppy.
So bottom line to me is the ARRL is not as unresponsive as it may seem. So like I said, I am sure everyone has updated to the latest release (February 14, 2019 config.xml v11.7). If you have done that you are ready to log QSO's through FO-99, JO-97 and if you are lucky enough to live in the covered part of the globe QO-100.
73,
John K4SQC
Yeah, I think that's what I was referring to earlier for sure.
How you doing Dave? I miss you buddy!
Mike, WA9PIE
On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 3:45 PM Dave AA6YQ [email protected] wrote:
Logging applications should populate their "Satellite Selectors" with the list of satellite names provided in LoTW's Configuration Data file; this will enable users to easily and correctly log QSOs that will be accepted when submitted to LoTW.
Note that each satellite QSOs submitted to LoTW must specify a "Propagation Mode" of SAT -- another opportunity for automation in the logging application.
73, Dave, AA6YQLoTW having to satisfy the numerous Logging Programs in use has to be a total nightmare and next to impossible. I use DX4WIN and it is NOT Satellite friendly and very much out of date. Much of the time I need to add my SAT QSOs to LoTW manually. Fortunately, doing it that way allows me to always use the correct syntax wanted by LoTW and the proper names they use for each SAT. My roving QSOs on SAT are also entered manually when transcribed from my digital recorder. Glad to hear the ARRL/LoTW Team is doing much better with the SATs.
TNX/73, Bob K8BL
On Tuesday, February 26, 2019, 2:16:31 PM CST, John Kludt < [email protected]> wrote:
R.T. and Team,
The satellite list is carried in TQSL which is revised frequently. A release came out on February 4, 2019 adding JO-97, FO-99 and QO-100 to the list of supported satellites. That should pretty much bring them up to date. I am sure everyone is keeping their TQSL version current as that is where these additions reside. Going back through the TSQL Change Log it looks to me like most everything is there. In the January 23, 2017 TQSL Update they even added "SAREX" and "MIREX" to catch old QSO's that may be coming along as people enter paper logs from the good old days to the LoTW.
And, yes, as far as syntax goes gotta use the right name or things don't work quite right. But, heck, SATpc32 is exactly the same. Trying to write code to cover every possible "creative" use of a satellite name can run to hundreds if not thousands of lines of code and it really serves no purpose other than allowing us, the end users, to be very sloppy.
So bottom line to me is the ARRL is not as unresponsive as it may seem. So like I said, I am sure everyone has updated to the latest release (February 14, 2019 config.xml v11.7). If you have done that you are ready to log QSO's through FO-99, JO-97 and if you are lucky enough to live in the covered part of the globe QO-100.
73,
John K4SQC
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I have been successfully using N3FJP to log satellite contacts and have been using it to send contacts to LoTW. The input form had to be modified to make it more satellite friendly but that was easy. The upload to LoTW feature works very good and I usually have contacts uploaded within minutes of the pass. If the satellite name is not right it will reject your upload and then you can correct it and try again. It works great.
I haven't been able to use it to download from LoTW yet but as I am not tracking grids that is not important to me. The program supports it but I haven't figured it out yet.
Bob WA8FXQ
On Feb 26, 2019, at 3:49 PM, Michael Carper, Ph.D. via AMSAT-BB [email protected] wrote:
Yeah, I think that's what I was referring to earlier for sure.
How you doing Dave? I miss you buddy!
Mike, WA9PIE
On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 3:45 PM Dave AA6YQ [email protected] wrote:
Logging applications should populate their "Satellite Selectors" with the list of satellite names provided in LoTW's Configuration Data file; this will enable users to easily and correctly log QSOs that will be accepted when submitted to LoTW.
Note that each satellite QSOs submitted to LoTW must specify a "Propagation Mode" of SAT -- another opportunity for automation in the logging application.
73, Dave, AA6YQLoTW having to satisfy the numerous Logging Programs in use has to be a total nightmare and next to impossible. I use DX4WIN and it is NOT Satellite friendly and very much out of date. Much of the time I need to add my SAT QSOs to LoTW manually. Fortunately, doing it that way allows me to always use the correct syntax wanted by LoTW and the proper names they use for each SAT. My roving QSOs on SAT are also entered manually when transcribed from my digital recorder. Glad to hear the ARRL/LoTW Team is doing much better with the SATs.
TNX/73, Bob K8BL
On Tuesday, February 26, 2019, 2:16:31 PM CST, John Kludt < [email protected]> wrote:
R.T. and Team,
The satellite list is carried in TQSL which is revised frequently. A release came out on February 4, 2019 adding JO-97, FO-99 and QO-100 to the list of supported satellites. That should pretty much bring them up to date. I am sure everyone is keeping their TQSL version current as that is where these additions reside. Going back through the TSQL Change Log it looks to me like most everything is there. In the January 23, 2017 TQSL Update they even added "SAREX" and "MIREX" to catch old QSO's that may be coming along as people enter paper logs from the good old days to the LoTW.
And, yes, as far as syntax goes gotta use the right name or things don't work quite right. But, heck, SATpc32 is exactly the same. Trying to write code to cover every possible "creative" use of a satellite name can run to hundreds if not thousands of lines of code and it really serves no purpose other than allowing us, the end users, to be very sloppy.
So bottom line to me is the ARRL is not as unresponsive as it may seem. So like I said, I am sure everyone has updated to the latest release (February 14, 2019 config.xml v11.7). If you have done that you are ready to log QSO's through FO-99, JO-97 and if you are lucky enough to live in the covered part of the globe QO-100.
73,
John K4SQC
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Bob, I think some major changes have occurred recently. In the past I would not have disagreed with you, but for the past year or two I've been the designated point-person on sending in new satellites to be added to TQSL. The last three I sent were added in less than 24 hours. I still hear of the occasional hiccup, but overall satellites seem to be well integrated and supported lately. The ARRL should be commended for that improvement.
73, Drew KO4MA AMSAT VP Operations
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SAT/LoTW Users,
ARRL does not give much attention to Satellite LoTW users and/or operations - IMHO. If there is something needing to be done for DXCC-HF, they fall over themselves working on it - again, IMHO. Maybe we should bombard various League Officials with e-mails to get their attention? I'm not suggesting this as a solution, just a question in the recesses of my mind.
Perhaps, a knowledgeable person from the SAT Community could work with a willing person at the ARRL. They might be able to get things corrected and up-to-date some day. HIHI
GL/73, Bob K8BL
(50+ Year ARRL Member, AMSAT Member since 1979)
On Tuesday, February 26, 2019, 12:01:46 PM CST, Paul Stoetzer [email protected] wrote:
Note that the list on the ARRL's website has not been updated with the recent additions of JO-97, FO-99, and QO-100. Also, it lists "EO88", but the correct name in the LoTW configuration file is "EO-88"
73,
Paul, N8HM
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Drew... That's good news. ... TNX/73, Bob K8BL On Tuesday, February 26, 2019, 7:21:27 PM CST, Andrew Glasbrenner [email protected] wrote:
Bob, I think some major changes have occurred recently. In the past I would not have disagreed with you, but for the past year or two I've been the designated point-person on sending in new satellites to be added to TQSL. The last three I sent were added in less than 24 hours. I still hear of the occasional hiccup, but overall satellites seem to be well integrated and supported lately. The ARRL should be commended for that improvement.
73, Drew KO4MA AMSAT VP Operations
-----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [email protected] On Behalf Of R.T.Liddy Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 2:52 PM To: Michael Carper, Ph.D. [email protected]; Paul Stoetzer [email protected] Cc: AMSAT BB [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Lotw use
SAT/LoTW Users,
ARRL does not give much attention to Satellite LoTW users and/or operations - IMHO. If there is something needing to be done for DXCC-HF, they fall over themselves working on it - again, IMHO. Maybe we should bombard various League Officials with e-mails to get their attention? I'm not suggesting this as a solution, just a question in the recesses of my mind.
Perhaps, a knowledgeable person from the SAT Community could work with a willing person at the ARRL. They might be able to get things corrected and up-to-date some day. HIHI
GL/73, Bob K8BL
(50+ Year ARRL Member, AMSAT Member since 1979)
On Tuesday, February 26, 2019, 12:01:46 PM CST, Paul Stoetzer [email protected] wrote:
Note that the list on the ARRL's website has not been updated with the recent additions of JO-97, FO-99, and QO-100. Also, it lists "EO88", but the correct name in the LoTW configuration file is "EO-88"
73,
Paul, N8HM
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Jim, speaking for myself, my logging has errors on occasion. (N6UA knows this:} )
what is your callsign and I can check against my paper log for accuracy and re-enter if necessary. most of my contacts on the Sats have been confirmed on LoTW. 73 Christy KB6LTY DM14
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Good morning, I am wondering why there are not more folks on the birds using LOTW? I have a couple of people that show as LOTW users, however, they have not uploaded there Sat contacts, or I have a bad miss match which can happen. Being new I am still learning how some of this is working and have been using LOTW for years and I find it quite easy to work with depending on the software that is being used for logging. I know that this subject most likely has been addressed before, however, in this day and age with the cost of cards, postage and envelopes it gets quite costly to be sending out many cards to obtain awards. Another thing that I have not seen is if for some of the Amsat awards if LOTW could be used for the awards if you can show a screenshot of the matches via there system.
The reason I ask is when you look at the cost of cards, then postage and envelopes, the cost can be quite high and if doing SASE the cost even goes higher. I know if your working non-USA contacts you can use the bureau which is fine, just domestic stuff it is thru the roof. In many cases, you could be 2 to 3 dollars per confirmation.
Jim
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