User habits have evolved over the decades favoring file transfer via HTTP(S) and we are now seeing very little activity via the FTP protocol. AMSAT will eliminate the administrative burden and other costs of FTP operation and is proposing to terminate FTP services on 15 April 2015.
Please let us know at webaster@amsat.org if this will cause any difficulty with any automated systems, especially with respect to dissemination of orbital elements. If you have such a system, please adjust them to get elements from the following locations:
https://www.amsat.org/tle/current/nasabare.txt https://www.amsat.org/tle/current/nasa.all
-Joe Fitzgerald AMSAT-NA IT Team
On 1/16/21 9:25 PM, Joseph B. Fitzgerald wrote:
AMSAT will eliminate the administrative burden and other costs of FTP operation and is proposing to terminate FTP services on 15 April 2015.
"To the Wayback Machine, Sherman!"
:-)
--- Zach N0ZGO
I'm pretty sure Joe meant 15 April 2021 and just made a typo. Douglas KA2UPW/5
On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 10:47 AM Zach Metzinger zmetzing@pobox.com wrote:
On 1/16/21 9:25 PM, Joseph B. Fitzgerald wrote:
AMSAT will eliminate the administrative burden and other costs of FTP
operation and is proposing to terminate FTP services on 15 April 2015.
"To the Wayback Machine, Sherman!"
:-)
--- Zach N0ZGO
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We should discuss this. What's your FAX number? :-)
On Sun, Jan 17, 2021, 8:55 AM Douglas Quagliana dquagliana@gmail.com wrote:
I'm pretty sure Joe meant 15 April 2021 and just made a typo. Douglas KA2UPW/5
On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 10:47 AM Zach Metzinger zmetzing@pobox.com wrote:
On 1/16/21 9:25 PM, Joseph B. Fitzgerald wrote:
AMSAT will eliminate the administrative burden and other costs of FTP
operation and is proposing to terminate FTP services on 15 April 2015.
"To the Wayback Machine, Sherman!"
:-)
--- Zach N0ZGO
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The correct date is of course 2021. Here is the corrected text;
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User habits have evolved over the decades favoring file transfer via HTTP(S) and we are now seeing very little activity via the FTP protocol. AMSAT will eliminate the administrative burden and other costs of FTP operation and is proposing to terminate FTP services on 15 April 2021.
Please let us know at webaster@amsat.org if this will cause any difficulty with any automated systems, especially with respect to dissemination of orbital elements. If you have such a system, please adjust them to get elements from the following locations:
https://www.amsat.org/tle/current/nasabare.txt https://www.amsat.org/tle/current/nasa.all
-Joe Fitzgerald AMSAT-NA IT Team
________________________________________ From: Douglas Quagliana dquagliana@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 11:54 AM To: Zach Metzinger Cc: AMSAT -BB Subject: [AMSAT-BB] Re: Proposed shutdown of ftp.amsat.org file server
I'm pretty sure Joe meant 15 April 2021 and just made a typo. Douglas KA2UPW/5
On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 10:47 AM Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@pobox.commailto:zmetzing@pobox.com> wrote: On 1/16/21 9:25 PM, Joseph B. Fitzgerald wrote:
AMSAT will eliminate the administrative burden and other costs of FTP operation and is proposing to terminate FTP services on 15 April 2015.
"To the Wayback Machine, Sherman!"
:-)
--- Zach N0ZGO
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I am wondering if SatPC32 will be able to handle an https location for TLEs.
the last time I tried an address for TLEs that was on an https the update function on SATPC32 failed.
it was on DK3WN site, who switched to an https
73 Christy KB6LTY
Christy,
We actually allow unencrypted http access to the keps files on the AMSAT server for that reason.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 1:34 PM christy hunter cchunter3@mindspring.com wrote:
I am wondering if SatPC32 will be able to handle an https location for TLEs.
the last time I tried an address for TLEs that was on an https the update function on SATPC32 failed.
it was on DK3WN site, who switched to an https
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Thanks for your concern Christy. HTTP will remain available for orbital elements.
de KM1P Joe
Took some time to go look at what will most likely be lost. There is a lot of history there I suspect will not get transferred to the HTTP side of amsat. Also seems a shame to give up on central repository of all things satellite.I'll be firing up my ftp client and pulling down the whole set since disk space is so cheap these days...... Question: How much will this save in admin and operating costs by dropping this resource? On Sunday, January 17, 2021, 12:36:43 PM CST, Joseph B. Fitzgerald jfitzgerald@alum.wpi.edu wrote:
Thanks for your concern Christy. HTTP will remain available for orbital elements.
de KM1P Joe
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Thanks for your comments Floyd. As a practical matter we have given up on the FTP server as a central repository long ago. You will be hard pressed to find many files dated within the last 10 years. Some of the content available on the FTP site is already served up the web server too, we will simply add the rest before FTP is shut down, so you need not worry about losing history.
I don't have a formal accounting of the effort required to administer the server, but it is certainly not free, especially now when we are planning for server moves. There is little appetite to spend any more scarce volunteer effort on an obsolete, seldom used system.
de KM1P Joe
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