I am just curious why we are not discussing the apparent failure of the receiver of AO-95. Do we know anything more about the issue? Thanks all, Fred – KF4FC
Fred,
Perhaps because there is little useful to be done or said at this point. We don’t know, and may never know for sure what the exact failure is. Many of those involved are also in some state of grieving right now after the years of effort put into this little satellite. Space is hard, and we do the best we can.
Rest assured that we will continue to monitor the satellite for any changes, and when the will to work the problem is a little stronger we will seek out some mega-erp EME stations to try to wiggle the RSSI to further diagnose the problem. Continued submission of telemetry is very important to this end.
73, Drew, KO4MA AMSAT VP Operations
On Dec 9, 2018, at 7:17 PM, Fred Castello fredcastello@gmail.com wrote:
I am just curious why we are not discussing the apparent failure of the receiver of AO-95. Do we know anything more about the issue? Thanks all, Fred – KF4FC
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Very sorry to all the engineers and others who worked on/with AO-95.
Thanks for your service to the community.
73, John Brier KG4AKV
On Sun, Dec 9, 2018, 19:48 Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@mindspring.com wrote:
Fred,
Perhaps because there is little useful to be done or said at this point. We don’t know, and may never know for sure what the exact failure is. Many of those involved are also in some state of grieving right now after the years of effort put into this little satellite. Space is hard, and we do the best we can.
Rest assured that we will continue to monitor the satellite for any changes, and when the will to work the problem is a little stronger we will seek out some mega-erp EME stations to try to wiggle the RSSI to further diagnose the problem. Continued submission of telemetry is very important to this end.
73, Drew, KO4MA AMSAT VP Operations
On Dec 9, 2018, at 7:17 PM, Fred Castello fredcastello@gmail.com
wrote:
I am just curious why we are not discussing the apparent failure of the
receiver of AO-95. Do we know anything more about the issue?
Thanks all, Fred – KF4FC
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John,
I'm like you, grateful for a long series of great effort - Its a real crescendo of work just to launch and commission one of these satellites when everything goes per plan and works just right.
This time is a little different, we're probably going to learn more from AO-95, I'm taking this as I need to start collecting telemetry to support the need for more data to understand the status to see if more information may be revealed yielding better results in the future.
As long as the satellite is up there making power and transmitting the possibility exists we may use its transponder some day, takes no imagination to point out AO-7 as that example.
*I'm offering my hearty Thank You* for a whole program of satellites (AO-73,85,91,92, 95 ARISS et al), and hope that the entire Mission Team thats been working on all of these satellites has a great Holiday season with Family and Friends. I hope to see you in Orlando soon.
73 Mike W4UOO
On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 9:44 PM John Brier johnbrier@gmail.com wrote:
Very sorry to all the engineers and others who worked on/with AO-95.
Thanks for your service to the community.
73, John Brier KG4AKV
On Sun, Dec 9, 2018, 19:48 Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@mindspring.com wrote:
Fred,
Perhaps because there is little useful to be done or said at this point. We don’t know, and may never know for sure what the exact failure is.
Many
of those involved are also in some state of grieving right now after the years of effort put into this little satellite. Space is hard, and we do the best we can.
Rest assured that we will continue to monitor the satellite for any changes, and when the will to work the problem is a little stronger we
will
seek out some mega-erp EME stations to try to wiggle the RSSI to further diagnose the problem. Continued submission of telemetry is very important to this end.
73, Drew, KO4MA AMSAT VP Operations
On Dec 9, 2018, at 7:17 PM, Fred Castello fredcastello@gmail.com
wrote:
I am just curious why we are not discussing the apparent failure of the
receiver of AO-95. Do we know anything more about the issue?
Thanks all, Fred – KF4FC
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On 12/9/18 6:47 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
Rest assured that we will continue to monitor the satellite for any changes, and when the will to work the problem is a little stronger we will seek out some mega-erp EME stations to try to wiggle the RSSI to further diagnose the problem. Continued submission of telemetry is very important to this end.
73, Drew, KO4MA AMSAT VP Operations
Hello Drew,
Does this mean that your operations team will switch focus to AO-85?
Thanks,
--- Zach N0ZGO
I'm just waiting for a pass when AO-85 is illuminated and I'm home, to put her back in transponder mode. There will be some requests for operators, mainly to not use it in eclipse. More soon.
73, Drew KO4MA
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On 12/9/18 6:47 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
Rest assured that we will continue to monitor the satellite for any
changes, and when the will to work the problem is a little stronger we will seek out some mega-erp EME stations to try to wiggle the RSSI to further diagnose the problem. Continued submission of telemetry is very important to this end.
73, Drew, KO4MA AMSAT VP Operations
Hello Drew,
Does this mean that your operations team will switch focus to AO-85?
Thanks,
--- Zach N0ZGO
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On 12/9/2018 18:17, Fred Castello wrote:
I am just curious why we are not discussing the apparent failure of the receiver of AO-95. Do we know anything more about the issue? Thanks all, Fred – KF4FC
Hi Fred,
I'm not sure if you were referring to We the amsat-bb list members? I have to say that I figured there would be much more chatter here than I have seen so far, anyway.
If by We you mean We the AMSAT Engineering team, of course we have been discussing the problem, possible causes, and working on leads ever since the anomaly became known. Certainly many of us are unhappy at not succeeding in making everybody else happy, but that is not the reason for my silence in terms of sharing with the public. Right now, with no readily apparent reason or reasons for the behavior, there is nothing else to report.
The situation has gone from a commissioning to being challenge, which is actually fun and we're on it. We are looking at data from a number of sources, as well as our past experiences with the other Fox-1 satellites during their journey from the BOM to orbit. Ideas such as the one Drew mentioned about employing a mega-QRO station to see if it can be heard by the bird have been on the table for several days but I don't plan to report or discuss every thought we have in working this unless and until it is something of merit or actionable. As you probably know, our resources are limited and it's all volunteered time. Most if not all of our remaining Fox-1 engineers are also involved in the GOLF-TEE project so I have asked them to give that first priority with their available volunteer time in order to keep the schedule. AO-95 is in orbit now and we can vary the amount of attention on her as resources allow in order to achieve both goals. If the results of our investigation point to a possibility of recovery be it partial, full, or some workaround method, we would all like to see her working as much as the rest of you and that is a driver for this investigation. But perhaps the most important driver is that there are lessons to be learned for the betterment of future missions. I expect us to continue to look for the cause or causes until we have results or reach a dead end because of the inability to take the lid off and look inside AO-95.
The main point of the ANS is to let everyone know that commissioning won't be happening, certainly not in the period that everyone has grown accustomed to if at all, so that members and users can get on with enjoying their activities on all of the other satellites. Many had been waiting in anticipation and wondering why talk of AO-95 commissioning seemed so quiet, so once we were sure that it didn't appear to be an intermittent thing we shared the news. And as I said in the ANS, I will certainly be keeping everyone posted when we have something new to report so in the meantime please carry on and enjoy the birds!
Jerry Buxton, NØJY
Thanks to Drew and Jerry for the additional information, even though the situation is not what anyone wanted hear.
I will echo John's statement. For those who have worked so hard on this bird, along with those before it and those to come, THANK YOU! Without people with the knowledge and skills to get a satellite into orbit, we would not have anything to enjoy.
On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 2:03 AM Jerry Buxton n0jy@amsat.org wrote:
On 12/9/2018 18:17, Fred Castello wrote:
I am just curious why we are not discussing the apparent failure of the
receiver of AO-95. Do we know anything more about the issue?
Thanks all, Fred – KF4FC
Hi Fred,
I'm not sure if you were referring to We the amsat-bb list members? I have to say that I figured there would be much more chatter here than I have seen so far, anyway.
If by We you mean We the AMSAT Engineering team, of course we have been discussing the problem, possible causes, and working on leads ever since the anomaly became known. Certainly many of us are unhappy at not succeeding in making everybody else happy, but that is not the reason for my silence in terms of sharing with the public. Right now, with no readily apparent reason or reasons for the behavior, there is nothing else to report.
The situation has gone from a commissioning to being challenge, which is actually fun and we're on it. We are looking at data from a number of sources, as well as our past experiences with the other Fox-1 satellites during their journey from the BOM to orbit. Ideas such as the one Drew mentioned about employing a mega-QRO station to see if it can be heard by the bird have been on the table for several days but I don't plan to report or discuss every thought we have in working this unless and until it is something of merit or actionable. As you probably know, our resources are limited and it's all volunteered time. Most if not all of our remaining Fox-1 engineers are also involved in the GOLF-TEE project so I have asked them to give that first priority with their available volunteer time in order to keep the schedule. AO-95 is in orbit now and we can vary the amount of attention on her as resources allow in order to achieve both goals. If the results of our investigation point to a possibility of recovery be it partial, full, or some workaround method, we would all like to see her working as much as the rest of you and that is a driver for this investigation. But perhaps the most important driver is that there are lessons to be learned for the betterment of future missions. I expect us to continue to look for the cause or causes until we have results or reach a dead end because of the inability to take the lid off and look inside AO-95.
The main point of the ANS is to let everyone know that commissioning won't be happening, certainly not in the period that everyone has grown accustomed to if at all, so that members and users can get on with enjoying their activities on all of the other satellites. Many had been waiting in anticipation and wondering why talk of AO-95 commissioning seemed so quiet, so once we were sure that it didn't appear to be an intermittent thing we shared the news. And as I said in the ANS, I will certainly be keeping everyone posted when we have something new to report so in the meantime please carry on and enjoy the birds!
Jerry Buxton, NØJY
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Hear, hear. I’m certainly not qualified to troubleshoot a satellite from 600km away, so I will leave that to the experts and do what I can to help, which consists of contributing to AMSAT and staying out of the way of the engineers.
As somebody recently said, “Space is hard.” There’s no guarantee any of these missions will be a success. Does that mean AMSAT shouldn’t try? Heck no; please keep trying. And I’ll happily contribute to future efforts to the best of my ability, because the success rate is still pretty high, and it isn’t cheap. I get a great deal of pleasure from satellite operating; least I can do is pay my fair share.
Thanks to the entire Engineering team for their efforts. It means a lot.
Sean Kutzko KX9X
On Dec 10, 2018, at 10:05 AM, Don KB2YSI kb2ysi@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks to Drew and Jerry for the additional information, even though the situation is not what anyone wanted hear.
I will echo John's statement. For those who have worked so hard on this bird, along with those before it and those to come, THANK YOU! Without people with the knowledge and skills to get a satellite into orbit, we would not have anything to enjoy.
On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 2:03 AM Jerry Buxton n0jy@amsat.org wrote:
On 12/9/2018 18:17, Fred Castello wrote: I am just curious why we are not discussing the apparent failure of the
receiver of AO-95. Do we know anything more about the issue?
Thanks all, Fred – KF4FC
Hi Fred,
I'm not sure if you were referring to We the amsat-bb list members? I have to say that I figured there would be much more chatter here than I have seen so far, anyway.
If by We you mean We the AMSAT Engineering team, of course we have been discussing the problem, possible causes, and working on leads ever since the anomaly became known. Certainly many of us are unhappy at not succeeding in making everybody else happy, but that is not the reason for my silence in terms of sharing with the public. Right now, with no readily apparent reason or reasons for the behavior, there is nothing else to report.
The situation has gone from a commissioning to being challenge, which is actually fun and we're on it. We are looking at data from a number of sources, as well as our past experiences with the other Fox-1 satellites during their journey from the BOM to orbit. Ideas such as the one Drew mentioned about employing a mega-QRO station to see if it can be heard by the bird have been on the table for several days but I don't plan to report or discuss every thought we have in working this unless and until it is something of merit or actionable. As you probably know, our resources are limited and it's all volunteered time. Most if not all of our remaining Fox-1 engineers are also involved in the GOLF-TEE project so I have asked them to give that first priority with their available volunteer time in order to keep the schedule. AO-95 is in orbit now and we can vary the amount of attention on her as resources allow in order to achieve both goals. If the results of our investigation point to a possibility of recovery be it partial, full, or some workaround method, we would all like to see her working as much as the rest of you and that is a driver for this investigation. But perhaps the most important driver is that there are lessons to be learned for the betterment of future missions. I expect us to continue to look for the cause or causes until we have results or reach a dead end because of the inability to take the lid off and look inside AO-95.
The main point of the ANS is to let everyone know that commissioning won't be happening, certainly not in the period that everyone has grown accustomed to if at all, so that members and users can get on with enjoying their activities on all of the other satellites. Many had been waiting in anticipation and wondering why talk of AO-95 commissioning seemed so quiet, so once we were sure that it didn't appear to be an intermittent thing we shared the news. And as I said in the ANS, I will certainly be keeping everyone posted when we have something new to report so in the meantime please carry on and enjoy the birds!
Jerry Buxton, NØJY
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Don,
I wish to join you to thanks Jerry and the team, to have worked so hard for Fox-1C over several years, and I am sure that they are more disappointed than anyone else about the present issue.
Building a bird is not an easy job and it seems that some believe it is kind of commodity, not really in spite many launches and each one is a challenge/ new adventure which is possible only due to the dedication and commitment of a few, space is not the nearby shopping mall and still a still a very risky business. Just look at the % of Cubesat failures.
Hopefully the bird will be recovered, if not it will be a learning as well explained. Grievance is just not relevant.
I will continue to send the TLM for the bird as many times as possible per the request to help them with an eventual recovery and suggest that all do so.
I also say also a big THANK YOU to the team behind AO-95, whether the mission is successful or not, the important matter is their hard work and learning from same.
73
Jean Marc (3B8DU)
On Dec 10, 2018, at 7:05 PM, Don KB2YSI kb2ysi@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks to Drew and Jerry for the additional information, even though the situation is not what anyone wanted hear.
I will echo John's statement. For those who have worked so hard on this bird, along with those before it and those to come, THANK YOU! Without people with the knowledge and skills to get a satellite into orbit, we would not have anything to enjoy.
On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 2:03 AM Jerry Buxton n0jy@amsat.org wrote:
On 12/9/2018 18:17, Fred Castello wrote:
I am just curious why we are not discussing the apparent failure of the
receiver of AO-95. Do we know anything more about the issue?
Thanks all, Fred – KF4FC
Hi Fred,
I'm not sure if you were referring to We the amsat-bb list members? I have to say that I figured there would be much more chatter here than I have seen so far, anyway.
If by We you mean We the AMSAT Engineering team, of course we have been discussing the problem, possible causes, and working on leads ever since the anomaly became known. Certainly many of us are unhappy at not succeeding in making everybody else happy, but that is not the reason for my silence in terms of sharing with the public. Right now, with no readily apparent reason or reasons for the behavior, there is nothing else to report.
The situation has gone from a commissioning to being challenge, which is actually fun and we're on it. We are looking at data from a number of sources, as well as our past experiences with the other Fox-1 satellites during their journey from the BOM to orbit. Ideas such as the one Drew mentioned about employing a mega-QRO station to see if it can be heard by the bird have been on the table for several days but I don't plan to report or discuss every thought we have in working this unless and until it is something of merit or actionable. As you probably know, our resources are limited and it's all volunteered time. Most if not all of our remaining Fox-1 engineers are also involved in the GOLF-TEE project so I have asked them to give that first priority with their available volunteer time in order to keep the schedule. AO-95 is in orbit now and we can vary the amount of attention on her as resources allow in order to achieve both goals. If the results of our investigation point to a possibility of recovery be it partial, full, or some workaround method, we would all like to see her working as much as the rest of you and that is a driver for this investigation. But perhaps the most important driver is that there are lessons to be learned for the betterment of future missions. I expect us to continue to look for the cause or causes until we have results or reach a dead end because of the inability to take the lid off and look inside AO-95.
The main point of the ANS is to let everyone know that commissioning won't be happening, certainly not in the period that everyone has grown accustomed to if at all, so that members and users can get on with enjoying their activities on all of the other satellites. Many had been waiting in anticipation and wondering why talk of AO-95 commissioning seemed so quiet, so once we were sure that it didn't appear to be an intermittent thing we shared the news. And as I said in the ANS, I will certainly be keeping everyone posted when we have something new to report so in the meantime please carry on and enjoy the birds!
Jerry Buxton, NØJY
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My appreciation as well to the Fox-1C team as well. There is a reason these are called “amateur” satellites and everyone should know the risks and challenges of these endeavors. We all hope for the best at time of launch but in the harsh environment of the launch, release and orbit, things happen. We should appreciate that we have the success of all the current amateur satellites in orbit. I for one can barely make a paper airplane fly let alone design, build and launch such a sophisticated piece of communications equipment. Kudos to all involved.
Thanks AMSAT and crew.
Greg N3MVF
On Dec 10, 2018, at 11:47 AM, Jean Marc Momple jean.marc.momple@gmail.com wrote:
Don,
I wish to join you to thanks Jerry and the team, to have worked so hard for Fox-1C over several years, and I am sure that they are more disappointed than anyone else about the present issue.
Building a bird is not an easy job and it seems that some believe it is kind of commodity, not really in spite many launches and each one is a challenge/ new adventure which is possible only due to the dedication and commitment of a few, space is not the nearby shopping mall and still a still a very risky business. Just look at the % of Cubesat failures.
Hopefully the bird will be recovered, if not it will be a learning as well explained. Grievance is just not relevant.
I will continue to send the TLM for the bird as many times as possible per the request to help them with an eventual recovery and suggest that all do so.
I also say also a big THANK YOU to the team behind AO-95, whether the mission is successful or not, the important matter is their hard work and learning from same.
73
Jean Marc (3B8DU)
On Dec 10, 2018, at 7:05 PM, Don KB2YSI kb2ysi@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks to Drew and Jerry for the additional information, even though the situation is not what anyone wanted hear.
I will echo John's statement. For those who have worked so hard on this bird, along with those before it and those to come, THANK YOU! Without people with the knowledge and skills to get a satellite into orbit, we would not have anything to enjoy.
On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 2:03 AM Jerry Buxton n0jy@amsat.org wrote:
On 12/9/2018 18:17, Fred Castello wrote:
I am just curious why we are not discussing the apparent failure of the
receiver of AO-95. Do we know anything more about the issue?
Thanks all, Fred – KF4FC
Hi Fred,
I'm not sure if you were referring to We the amsat-bb list members? I have to say that I figured there would be much more chatter here than I have seen so far, anyway.
If by We you mean We the AMSAT Engineering team, of course we have been discussing the problem, possible causes, and working on leads ever since the anomaly became known. Certainly many of us are unhappy at not succeeding in making everybody else happy, but that is not the reason for my silence in terms of sharing with the public. Right now, with no readily apparent reason or reasons for the behavior, there is nothing else to report.
The situation has gone from a commissioning to being challenge, which is actually fun and we're on it. We are looking at data from a number of sources, as well as our past experiences with the other Fox-1 satellites during their journey from the BOM to orbit. Ideas such as the one Drew mentioned about employing a mega-QRO station to see if it can be heard by the bird have been on the table for several days but I don't plan to report or discuss every thought we have in working this unless and until it is something of merit or actionable. As you probably know, our resources are limited and it's all volunteered time. Most if not all of our remaining Fox-1 engineers are also involved in the GOLF-TEE project so I have asked them to give that first priority with their available volunteer time in order to keep the schedule. AO-95 is in orbit now and we can vary the amount of attention on her as resources allow in order to achieve both goals. If the results of our investigation point to a possibility of recovery be it partial, full, or some workaround method, we would all like to see her working as much as the rest of you and that is a driver for this investigation. But perhaps the most important driver is that there are lessons to be learned for the betterment of future missions. I expect us to continue to look for the cause or causes until we have results or reach a dead end because of the inability to take the lid off and look inside AO-95.
The main point of the ANS is to let everyone know that commissioning won't be happening, certainly not in the period that everyone has grown accustomed to if at all, so that members and users can get on with enjoying their activities on all of the other satellites. Many had been waiting in anticipation and wondering why talk of AO-95 commissioning seemed so quiet, so once we were sure that it didn't appear to be an intermittent thing we shared the news. And as I said in the ANS, I will certainly be keeping everyone posted when we have something new to report so in the meantime please carry on and enjoy the birds!
Jerry Buxton, NØJY
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I want to thank Jerry, Drew, and others for the transparency that has been observed here. It is appreciated.
Bob N4HY
On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 2:03 AM Jerry Buxton n0jy@amsat.org wrote:
On 12/9/2018 18:17, Fred Castello wrote:
I am just curious why we are not discussing the apparent failure of the
receiver of AO-95. Do we know anything more about the issue?
Thanks all, Fred – KF4FC
Hi Fred,
I'm not sure if you were referring to We the amsat-bb list members? I have to say that I figured there would be much more chatter here than I have seen so far, anyway.
If by We you mean We the AMSAT Engineering team, of course we have been discussing the problem, possible causes, and working on leads ever since the anomaly became known. Certainly many of us are unhappy at not succeeding in making everybody else happy, but that is not the reason for my silence in terms of sharing with the public. Right now, with no readily apparent reason or reasons for the behavior, there is nothing else to report.
The situation has gone from a commissioning to being challenge, which is actually fun and we're on it. We are looking at data from a number of sources, as well as our past experiences with the other Fox-1 satellites during their journey from the BOM to orbit. Ideas such as the one Drew mentioned about employing a mega-QRO station to see if it can be heard by the bird have been on the table for several days but I don't plan to report or discuss every thought we have in working this unless and until it is something of merit or actionable. As you probably know, our resources are limited and it's all volunteered time. Most if not all of our remaining Fox-1 engineers are also involved in the GOLF-TEE project so I have asked them to give that first priority with their available volunteer time in order to keep the schedule. AO-95 is in orbit now and we can vary the amount of attention on her as resources allow in order to achieve both goals. If the results of our investigation point to a possibility of recovery be it partial, full, or some workaround method, we would all like to see her working as much as the rest of you and that is a driver for this investigation. But perhaps the most important driver is that there are lessons to be learned for the betterment of future missions. I expect us to continue to look for the cause or causes until we have results or reach a dead end because of the inability to take the lid off and look inside AO-95.
The main point of the ANS is to let everyone know that commissioning won't be happening, certainly not in the period that everyone has grown accustomed to if at all, so that members and users can get on with enjoying their activities on all of the other satellites. Many had been waiting in anticipation and wondering why talk of AO-95 commissioning seemed so quiet, so once we were sure that it didn't appear to be an intermittent thing we shared the news. And as I said in the ANS, I will certainly be keeping everyone posted when we have something new to report so in the meantime please carry on and enjoy the birds!
Jerry Buxton, NØJY
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