At 05:10 AM 6/28/2011, R Oler wrote:
What is to prevent someone from designating themselves "net control"? sorry this plan is doomed Robert Oler WB5MZO Live member ARRL AMSAT NARS
Ah you are inventing problems. The "real NC" would quickly assert their position. There are lots of nets held on ham radio...how often do others claim to be net control...virtually never. If you are saying someone will cause malicious interference, there is no cure other than peer pressure and official FCC action.
The way to introduce Net Controlled passes is to do it in advance of FD. In fact the idea might catch on when folks find it manages the typical "FM chaos" that reigns currently.
I propose there be a Net Day every month on certain FM satellites starting with AO-51, if it is healthy enough. Good practise for a real "emergency comm" situation. There are ARES Nets held regularly all over the nation on VHF/UHF... why not on satellite?
73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 ====================================== BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com EME: 50-1.1kw?, 144-1.4kw, 432-100w, 1296-60w, 3400-? DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubususa@gmail.com ======================================
Ed. There is a big difference between an HF net where everyone can more or less be heard (at least as interference) and a satellite where the strongest signal captures it. There is no FCC ruling that would support a "net call" operation and any one with a valid license could get on and bang away to their hearts content and all the "net control" station could do is hurl harsh words and lots of OO notices. I was a part of the ATS system for a bit. Nets work when being part of the net is the price of being on the bird.
Where is Wayne Green when we need him? Robert Oler WB5MZO Life Member AMSAT ARRL NARS
Ah you are inventing problems. The "real NC" would quickly assert their position. There are lots of nets held on ham radio...how often do others claim to be net control...virtually never. If you are saying someone will cause malicious interference, there is no cure other than peer pressure and official FCC action.
The way to introduce Net Controlled passes is to do it in advance of FD. In fact the idea might catch on when folks find it manages the typical "FM chaos" that reigns currently.
I propose there be a Net Day every month on certain FM satellites starting with AO-51, if it is healthy enough. Good practise for a real "emergency comm" situation. There are ARES Nets held regularly all over the nation on VHF/UHF... why not on satellite?
73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com EME: 50-1.1kw?, 144-1.4kw, 432-100w, 1296-60w, 3400-? DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubususa@gmail.com ======================================
I propose there be a Net Day every month on certain FM satellites starting with AO-51...
AMEN! We did this back with the VOICE Transponder on PCSAT-1. Not being an "AMSAT" we did not have to ask anyone. We just declared that the transponder would be on on such and such a day, and that operation would be via Net Control. TO my rememberance, it worked perfectly.
Net control simply called for checkins by category (EVER MINDFULL of exactly where the satellite footprint was optimum. Remember, those directy below the satellite have a 10 dB advantage over those on the edge...
We did this as a demonstration of how well NET CONTROL type operation would work on an FM satellite. At the time, of course, the Neanderthals opposed even the concept on an AMSAT. So we did nothing much elase... What we did not think of, is Ed's idea of a ONCE A MONTH exercise as a way of testing it and getting people used to it.
I'm all for it!
Bob, Wb4APR
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Bob Bruninga -
Edward R. Cole -
R Oler