Hello hope Everyone is doing Well I "am not sure this Post went out or not If Someone has a Answer if You like Just E-Mail Me Direct at KA9QJG@WOWWAY.COM
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73 De Don KA9QJG
Hello From Don KA9QJG , Hope Everyone is doing Well I have Heard and Read and ask a lot of Questions about Hams using the Oscar Sub Band 144.3-144.5 and as You can guess I Got a lot of Opinions From the ARRL, FCC And others, So I thought the Best thing to go was to actually get the Answers from You the users.
Yes I know that and as a Responsible Ham I think We all should use the Guidelines , But in this Case From what I have found the Oscar Sats have not been on the Air since in Many Years , and NO Other Sats or ISS Is using the Freqs or set aside for them , So a Lot of Hams in the US are using the Freqs for FM/ SSB CW DIGTAL And Look the Well Established APRS 144.39
And long time and still used 144.34 FM for Conducting ATV And I have seen on the Internet Some States actually adding the 144.300-144.5 As Simplex FM
The Problem is I have Heard People Jamming and Arguments about this over the Air , I have even seen on the Internet when doing searches for Info Some States even include this NON Used 144.300 TO 144.500 For FM Simplex Etc.. Because NO Oscar Sats Exist or Nothing else to Interfere with But I agree 100Percent if there Was the Freqs should NOT Be used for anything other then what it was intended for
Thanks 73
De Don KA9QJG
PS as You know We have a lot of older Hams kind of set in their ways and the New ones Are Listening and looking for ways to Fit in, and We need as Many New Responsible Hams in this Hobby as We can get But How Could We get on these Freqs Some are using and Say Hey We are not allowed here Because of the Oscar Sub Band Something that has been Gone for over 20 Yrs
The APRS frequency 144.390 MHz has been allocated for some time now and it could be argued that it IS a satellite mode. I don't see it going away any time soon either.
Band plans are generally suggestions unless there are specific laws allocating particluar bands and frequencies. Are the "Oscar" frequencies allocated by law?
73, Jeff Moore -- KE7ACY CN94
----- Original Message ----- From: "ka9qjg" ka9qjg@wowway.com [snip] Hello From Don KA9QJG , Hope Everyone is doing Well I have Heard and Read and ask a lot of Questions about Hams using the Oscar Sub Band 144.3-144.5 and as You can guess I Got a lot of Opinions From the ARRL, FCC And others, So I thought the Best thing to go was to actually get the Answers from You the users.
Yes I know that and as a Responsible Ham I think We all should use the Guidelines , But in this Case From what I have found the Oscar Sats have not been on the Air since in Many Years , and NO Other Sats or ISS Is using the Freqs or set aside for them , So a Lot of Hams in the US are using the Freqs for FM/ SSB CW DIGTAL And Look the Well Established APRS 144.39
And long time and still used 144.34 FM for Conducting ATV And I have seen on the Internet Some States actually adding the 144.300-144.5 As Simplex FM
The Problem is I have Heard People Jamming and Arguments about this over the Air , I have even seen on the Internet when doing searches for Info Some States even include this NON Used 144.300 TO 144.500 For FM Simplex Etc.. Because NO Oscar Sats Exist or Nothing else to Interfere with But I agree 100Percent if there Was the Freqs should NOT Be used for anything other then what it was intended for
Thanks 73
De Don KA9QJG
PS as You know We have a lot of older Hams kind of set in their ways and the New ones Are Listening and looking for ways to Fit in, and We need as Many New Responsible Hams in this Hobby as We can get But How Could We get on these Freqs Some are using and Say Hey We are not allowed here Because of the Oscar Sub Band Something that has been Gone for over 20 Yrs
Google would seem to indicate that the best solution would be to use the rules outlined by your local 2 meter coordinating committee...in reality, those frequencies are not currently published as in use by any amateur satellites.
Roger WA1KAT
On 9/30/2011 5:45 PM, ka9qjg wrote:
Hello hope Everyone is doing Well I "am not sure this Post went out or not If Someone has a Answer if You like Just E-Mail Me Direct at KA9QJG@WOWWAY.COM
THANKS IN Advance
73 De Don KA9QJG
Hello From Don KA9QJG , Hope Everyone is doing Well I have Heard and Read and ask a lot of Questions about Hams using the Oscar Sub Band 144.3-144.5 and as You can guess I Got a lot of Opinions From the ARRL, FCC And others, So I thought the Best thing to go was to actually get the Answers from You the users.
Yes I know that and as a Responsible Ham I think We all should use the Guidelines , But in this Case From what I have found the Oscar Sats have not been on the Air since in Many Years , and NO Other Sats or ISS Is using the Freqs or set aside for them , So a Lot of Hams in the US are using the Freqs for FM/ SSB CW DIGTAL And Look the Well Established APRS 144.39
And long time and still used 144.34 FM for Conducting ATV And I have seen on the Internet Some States actually adding the 144.300-144.5 As Simplex FM
The Problem is I have Heard People Jamming and Arguments about this over the Air , I have even seen on the Internet when doing searches for Info Some States even include this NON Used 144.300 TO 144.500 For FM Simplex Etc.. Because NO Oscar Sats Exist or Nothing else to Interfere with But I agree 100Percent if there Was the Freqs should NOT Be used for anything other then what it was intended for
Thanks 73
De Don KA9QJG
PS as You know We have a lot of older Hams kind of set in their ways and the New ones Are Listening and looking for ways to Fit in, and We need as Many New Responsible Hams in this Hobby as We can get But How Could We get on these Freqs Some are using and Say Hey We are not allowed here Because of the Oscar Sub Band Something that has been Gone for over 20 Yrs
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it is also not an oscar band in at least ITU region 1 and think regio 2 as wel meaning that it can not be used for always on transmitters and probably not wise to use for always on recievers as wel at least if they are linked to a transponder, guess a command reciever would be ok.
so it is very unlikely to be hindering any satelite operation now and in the future.
73 Andre PE1RDW
Op 1-10-2011 0:41, Roger schreef:
Google would seem to indicate that the best solution would be to use the rules outlined by your local 2 meter coordinating committee...in reality, those frequencies are not currently published as in use by any amateur satellites.
Roger WA1KAT
On 9/30/2011 5:45 PM, ka9qjg wrote:
Hello hope Everyone is doing Well I "am not sure this Post went out or not If Someone has a Answer if You like Just E-Mail Me Direct at KA9QJG@WOWWAY.COM
THANKS IN Advance
73 De Don KA9QJG
Hello From Don KA9QJG , Hope Everyone is doing Well I have Heard and Read and ask a lot of Questions about Hams using the Oscar Sub Band 144.3-144.5 and as You can guess I Got a lot of Opinions From the ARRL, FCC And others, So I thought the Best thing to go was to actually get the Answers from You the users.
Yes I know that and as a Responsible Ham I think We all should use the Guidelines , But in this Case From what I have found the Oscar Sats have not been on the Air since in Many Years , and NO Other Sats or ISS Is using the Freqs or set aside for them , So a Lot of Hams in the US are using the Freqs for FM/ SSB CW DIGTAL And Look the Well Established APRS 144.39
And long time and still used 144.34 FM for Conducting ATV And I have seen on the Internet Some States actually adding the 144.300-144.5 As Simplex FM
The Problem is I have Heard People Jamming and Arguments about this over the Air , I have even seen on the Internet when doing searches for Info Some States even include this NON Used 144.300 TO 144.500 For FM Simplex Etc.. Because NO Oscar Sats Exist or Nothing else to Interfere with But I agree 100Percent if there Was the Freqs should NOT Be used for anything other then what it was intended for
Thanks 73
De Don KA9QJG
PS as You know We have a lot of older Hams kind of set in their ways and the New ones Are Listening and looking for ways to Fit in, and We need as Many New Responsible Hams in this Hobby as We can get But How Could We get on these Freqs Some are using and Say Hey We are not allowed here Because of the Oscar Sub Band Something that has been Gone for over 20 Yrs
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In IARU Region 1 144.400-144.490 are used for Propagation Beacons, see http://www.rsgb.org/committees/spectrumforum/docs/rsgb_band_plan_2010.htm
The section 144.000 - 144.040 may be suitable for an Amateur Satellite linear transponder downlink.
In recent years IARU Region 1 has been looking at this. The RSGB submitted a paper on the subject, see
CT08_C5_16 RSGB 144MHz Increased Satellite Service http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/IARU_R1_Conference_2008/ctte5/CT08_C5_16%2... or http://tinyurl.com/2mSatelliteAllocation
I don't know if any AMSAT groups in IARU Regions 2 or 3 are looking to increase the Satellite segment in 2m ? Clearly satellites require global allocations.
73 Trevor M5AKA
This is some of the activity that I know of currently taking place in the "New OSCAR Subband"
144.3400 FM ATV Network Calling Primary (Secondary freq is 146.4300) 144.3600 AM Military Radio Collectors Association - East Coast (WW2 Aircraft Sets) 144.3900 FM Automatic Packet Reporting System (APRS) Primary (Secondary freq is 144.9900) 144.4000 AM Old Nationwide Calling/Simplex (New freq is 144.4500) 144.4000 AM Military Radio Collectors Group (West Coast) 144.4000 AM Pacific Northwest 144.4250 AM New England 144.4500 AM Military Radio Collectors Association - East Coast 144.4500 AM Military Radio Collectors Group - West Coast 144.4500 AM Arizona, California, New Jersey, New York
The regional AM net info is current as of this year, the info was collected from several blogs and reflectors with recent date/time stamps. The MRCA info is listed on their website. The MRCG info I collected from the Santa Paula event in August, there was a lot of interference on 144.4000 from APRS due to the wideband filters used on the older green radios so comms were moved to 144.4500 MHz.
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