
Hello there!
I've been having trouble with my Arrow Antenna on the FOX sats. It seems that when I point my antenna at the satellite, say on a 70 degree max elevation pass, it doesn't receive it. But when I point the antenna at the ground, it comes in very clearly. Towards the end of the pass, I start receiving it again because I'm pointing my antenna near the horizon. At this time, I make all of my contacts. What could be the problem? I checked the elements on the antenna and they aren't mixed up. Thank you!
73 de KE0STO

Total guess, but perhaps a connector issue on the feedline? To rule that out use a SWR meter between the rig and antenna and see if the SWR changes when you are pointing things up high.
73, Bob, WB4SON
On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 4:08 PM Kees van Oosbree via AMSAT-BB < [email protected]> wrote:
Hello there!
I've been having trouble with my Arrow Antenna on the FOX sats. It seems that when I point my antenna at the satellite, say on a 70 degree max elevation pass, it doesn't receive it. But when I point the antenna at the ground, it comes in very clearly. Towards the end of the pass, I start receiving it again because I'm pointing my antenna near the horizon. At this time, I make all of my contacts. What could be the problem? I checked the elements on the antenna and they aren't mixed up. Thank you!
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Are the elements installed on the boom backwards? :0
Shortest element closest to the satellite.
Too obvious?
What antenna problem causes a null off the tip of the boom?
73 - Paul - W2HRO
On Wed, Jun 19, 2019, 16:27 Bob via AMSAT-BB [email protected] wrote:
Total guess, but perhaps a connector issue on the feedline? To rule that out use a SWR meter between the rig and antenna and see if the SWR changes when you are pointing things up high.
73, Bob, WB4SON
On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 4:08 PM Kees van Oosbree via AMSAT-BB < [email protected]> wrote:
Hello there!
I've been having trouble with my Arrow Antenna on the FOX sats. It seems that when I point my antenna at the satellite, say on a 70 degree max elevation pass, it doesn't receive it. But when I point the antenna at
the
ground, it comes in very clearly. Towards the end of the pass, I start receiving it again because I'm pointing my antenna near the horizon. At this time, I make all of my contacts. What could be the problem? I checked the elements on the antenna and they aren't mixed up. Thank you!
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I have had one Arrows but three duplexers. Nice antenna, light weight but not too forgiving if it gets bounced around. I am now using an Elk and am quite happy with it. No more duplexes to fail because I am rough on my toys.
JohnN7AME On Wednesday, June 19, 2019, 2:02:52 PM PDT, Paul Andrews via AMSAT-BB [email protected] wrote:
Are the elements installed on the boom backwards? :0
Shortest element closest to the satellite.
Too obvious?
What antenna problem causes a null off the tip of the boom?
73 - Paul - W2HRO
On Wed, Jun 19, 2019, 16:27 Bob via AMSAT-BB [email protected] wrote:
Total guess, but perhaps a connector issue on the feedline? To rule that out use a SWR meter between the rig and antenna and see if the SWR changes when you are pointing things up high.
73, Bob, WB4SON
On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 4:08 PM Kees van Oosbree via AMSAT-BB < [email protected]> wrote:
Hello there!
I've been having trouble with my Arrow Antenna on the FOX sats. It seems that when I point my antenna at the satellite, say on a 70 degree max elevation pass, it doesn't receive it. But when I point the antenna at
the
ground, it comes in very clearly. Towards the end of the pass, I start receiving it again because I'm pointing my antenna near the horizon. At this time, I make all of my contacts. What could be the problem? I checked the elements on the antenna and they aren't mixed up. Thank you!
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When the satellite is directly overhead with a vertical antenna that might be tough to contact. Perhaps pointing the antenna at the ground is causing the signal to bounce and reflect. 73 Robert MacHaleKE6BLR Ham Radio Licensehttp://spaceCommunicator.club Supporting Boy Scout Merit Badges in Radio and Space Exploration
On Wednesday, June 19, 2019, 2:03:24 PM PDT, Paul Andrews via AMSAT-BB [email protected] wrote:
Are the elements installed on the boom backwards? :0
Shortest element closest to the satellite.
Too obvious?
What antenna problem causes a null off the tip of the boom?
73 - Paul - W2HRO
On Wed, Jun 19, 2019, 16:27 Bob via AMSAT-BB [email protected] wrote:
Total guess, but perhaps a connector issue on the feedline? To rule that out use a SWR meter between the rig and antenna and see if the SWR changes when you are pointing things up high.
73, Bob, WB4SON
On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 4:08 PM Kees van Oosbree via AMSAT-BB < [email protected]> wrote:
Hello there!
I've been having trouble with my Arrow Antenna on the FOX sats. It seems that when I point my antenna at the satellite, say on a 70 degree max elevation pass, it doesn't receive it. But when I point the antenna at
the
ground, it comes in very clearly. Towards the end of the pass, I start receiving it again because I'm pointing my antenna near the horizon. At this time, I make all of my contacts. What could be the problem? I checked the elements on the antenna and they aren't mixed up. Thank you!
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Many good explanations have been offered, but I'm surprised no one has suggested the most obvious one...
most of our satellites have, after all, INVERTING transponders!
-Scott, K4KDR
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-----Original Message----- From: Robert MacHale via AMSAT-BB Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 10:17 PM To: Bob ; Paul Andrews Cc: amsat-bb Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Arrow 2 Antenna
When the satellite is directly overhead with a vertical antenna that might be tough to contact. Perhaps pointing the antenna at the ground is causing the signal to bounce and reflect. 73 Robert MacHaleKE6BLR Ham Radio Licensehttp://spaceCommunicator.club Supporting Boy Scout Merit Badges in Radio and Space Exploration
On Wednesday, June 19, 2019, 2:03:24 PM PDT, Paul Andrews via AMSAT-BB [email protected] wrote:
Are the elements installed on the boom backwards? :0
Shortest element closest to the satellite.
Too obvious?
What antenna problem causes a null off the tip of the boom?
73 - Paul - W2HRO
On Wed, Jun 19, 2019, 16:27 Bob via AMSAT-BB [email protected] wrote:
Total guess, but perhaps a connector issue on the feedline? To rule that out use a SWR meter between the rig and antenna and see if the SWR changes when you are pointing things up high.
73, Bob, WB4SON
On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 4:08 PM Kees van Oosbree via AMSAT-BB < [email protected]> wrote:
Hello there!
I've been having trouble with my Arrow Antenna on the FOX sats. It seems that when I point my antenna at the satellite, say on a 70 degree max elevation pass, it doesn't receive it. But when I point the antenna at
the
ground, it comes in very clearly. Towards the end of the pass, I start receiving it again because I'm pointing my antenna near the horizon. At this time, I make all of my contacts. What could be the problem? I checked the elements on the antenna and they aren't mixed up. Thank you!
73 de KE0STO

I really hope this is not another trick question, if not, better get a new antenna, radio, and/or coax - seriously. A 70 degree pass of the Fox-es and a clear view, their strong signal be received with a random wire. On such a high pass, normally get 4of9 bars with a rubber duck and 8of9 bars with a 2 el yagi ! Good luck, Umesh, k6vug On Wednesday, June 19, 2019, 7:29:30 PM PDT, Scott via AMSAT-BB [email protected] wrote:
Many good explanations have been offered, but I'm surprised no one has suggested the most obvious one...
most of our satellites have, after all, INVERTING transponders!
-Scott, K4KDR
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-----Original Message----- From: Robert MacHale via AMSAT-BB Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 10:17 PM To: Bob ; Paul Andrews Cc: amsat-bb Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Arrow 2 Antenna
When the satellite is directly overhead with a vertical antenna that might be tough to contact. Perhaps pointing the antenna at the ground is causing the signal to bounce and reflect. 73 Robert MacHaleKE6BLR Ham Radio Licensehttp://spaceCommunicator.club Supporting Boy Scout Merit Badges in Radio and Space Exploration
On Wednesday, June 19, 2019, 2:03:24 PM PDT, Paul Andrews via AMSAT-BB [email protected] wrote:
Are the elements installed on the boom backwards? :0
Shortest element closest to the satellite.
Too obvious?
What antenna problem causes a null off the tip of the boom?
73 - Paul - W2HRO
On Wed, Jun 19, 2019, 16:27 Bob via AMSAT-BB [email protected] wrote:
Total guess, but perhaps a connector issue on the feedline? To rule that out use a SWR meter between the rig and antenna and see if the SWR changes when you are pointing things up high.
73, Bob, WB4SON
On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 4:08 PM Kees van Oosbree via AMSAT-BB < [email protected]> wrote:
Hello there!
I've been having trouble with my Arrow Antenna on the FOX sats. It seems that when I point my antenna at the satellite, say on a 70 degree max elevation pass, it doesn't receive it. But when I point the antenna at
the
ground, it comes in very clearly. Towards the end of the pass, I start receiving it again because I'm pointing my antenna near the horizon. At this time, I make all of my contacts. What could be the problem? I checked the elements on the antenna and they aren't mixed up. Thank you!
73 de KE0STO
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