Re: [amsat-bb] Rude Operator, part deux
Hi Bob
I just want to say that if you want to share the store and solve it, then you really do need to share the entire story with all the facts.
If you want to publicly shame an operator, then please do tell the entire story with the operators call sign. If you are not able to tell the entire story then it is not really worth mentioning it at all.
I barely work the FM birds and it is clear that they are a waste of time and investment money, at least over North America. No different than 27.185Mhz. We have a repeater like that here in Toronto where there is no control. Hopefully, we have seen the last of the FM repeaters in the sky since this part of the hobby is partially out of control.
I would like to know the callsign in case he shows up on the Linear birds and I know how to treat this operator.
Also, if I knew the callsign, I have no issue listening for him on an FM bird and then emailing him privately to see what he has to say. Maybe there is a misunderstanding as there are 2 sides to every story. But, without the callsign, I won't waste my time.
OK, rant over and I apologize for my rant. I would just like more of the facts and that is all I am saying -- with full respect of course.
many 73
Mike va3mw
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 11:43 PM Bob Keating bkeating1954@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Mike,
Believe me, you will have no problem hearing him. In the interest of privacy, I am not going to give his full call, but the prefix was XE2.
73,
Bob N6REK On 3/18/2020 7:05 PM, Michael Walker wrote:
Hi Bob
It does take all kinds.
What was his callsign? That way none of us will work him when we hear him.
Mike va3mw
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 3:28 PM Bob Keating via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
I'm sure those of you that were on the SO-50 pass this morning at 16:38 utc heard that rude operator who repeatedly threw out his call sign and called "CQ satellite". He was stomping over everyone and apparently didn't hear those of us who responded to his call, myself and Doug N6UA had responded to him among others .My thought was this is a "newbie" that has never worked the birds before, so I figured I would look him up on QRZ and send him a friendly email offering some help and suggestions. Low and behold this guy's QRZ page is papered with scads of award certificates including, get this, a VUCC satellite award! You'd think he'd know better! I did kindly offer some suggestions and help including not calling "CQ satellite" and referred him to AMSAT's web site. In addition, he was keeping operators from a QSO with N6UA who is roving right now. I don't know if he was operating full duplex or maybe he didn't have his downlink frequency correct. Regardless, his signal was so strong and overpowering, i sincerely question if he was putting out just 5 watts.
We had a much better pass on AO-91 at 19:07.
73,
Bob N6REK
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If you barely work the FM birds then you don't have a lot of credibility criticizing them. ALL aspects of amateur radio have the occasional rude participant. Yes, there are times, especially weekends, when the FM birds are analogous to 50 people trying to get through a door at once. But most of the time it is possible to get in a couple of contacts with a little practice. Not everyone can afford the thousands of dollars needed for a computer-driven SSB satellite ground station. The FM birds allow those of us on a limited budget to experience the excitement of using our own budget limited equipment to make a contact via satellite. Hopefully, AMSAT and other entities will continue to make available FM satellites as well as more SSB satellites and APRS satellites, so everyone who wants to participate will have that opportunity. Steve AI9IN ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Walker via AMSAT-BB (amsat-bb@amsat.org)
I barely work the FM birds and it is clear that they are a waste of time and investment money, at least over North America. No different than 27.185Mhz. We have a repeater like that here in Toronto where there is no control. Hopefully, we have seen the last of the FM repeaters in the sky since this part of the hobby is partially out of control.
As a new LEO operator, with just 2 FM QSO/QSL logged, let me agree with previous poster in that the satisfaction of using my two 5w HTs and copper wire homebuilt antenna to communicate with a satellite is unbounded, especially with my intended goal to introduce this STEM activity to my granddaughter as soon as she gets her license. (her tech exam was cancelled this week.) Keep the FM birds, but lose the rudeness. I even recorded a ham whistling on a SO-50 pass this week.
Isaac W4ITC
On Thursday, March 19, 2020, Steve Kristoff via AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org wrote:
If you barely work the FM birds then you don't have a lot of credibility criticizing them. ALL aspects of amateur radio have the occasional rude participant. Yes, there are times, especially weekends, when the FM birds are analogous to 50 people trying to get through a door at once. But most of the time it is possible to get in a couple of contacts with a little practice. Not everyone can afford the thousands of dollars needed for a computer-driven SSB satellite ground station. The FM birds allow those of us on a limited budget to experience the excitement of using our own budget limited equipment to make a contact via satellite. Hopefully, AMSAT and other entities will continue to make available FM satellites as well as more SSB satellites and APRS satellites, so everyone who wants to participate will have that opportunity. Steve AI9IN
----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Walker via AMSAT-BB (amsat-bb@amsat.org)
I barely work the FM birds and it is clear that they are a waste of time and investment money, at least over North America. No different than 27.185Mhz. We have a repeater like that here in Toronto where there is no control. Hopefully, we have seen the last of the FM repeaters in the sky since this part of the hobby is partially out of control.
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