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From: n0jy@lavabit.com Sent: Nov 9, 2010 8:32 AM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO51 pass this evening 0039UT
I may be hated for this but I have to ask, if you make a contact and you get the call wrong so you would not get a QSL card because you can't mail the right person is it really fair to use another medium to search out the correct call in order to secure the contact for award reasons? I always thought the QSO had to be a successful exchange of at least the call signs over the air to count as a contact. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Jerry N0JY
In my opinion you are 100% correct. Make a second contact to make it legit. If you just want to find the right call for your own reasons or to arrange another contact, cool. If you want to use the busted QSO for an award, not cool.
73, Drew KO4MA
Would this apply to using a digital voice recorder also, in your opinion?
I operate handheld (using an Icom w32a and an Elk antenna) I'm unable to write down ANY information during a contact. I'd hate to think I'm somehow disqualified from an award because I listened to my recordings to log my contacts after the pass is over.
The OP only missed the call by one character, and they sound similar. I'm not sure what equipment both parties were using, but I remember having a very hard time making out calls with my gear. Especially on AO-51 pileups. One of the reasons I quit for awhile is I got tired of competing with the "big guns".
I've been off the air for about a year now. I'm looking forward to getting back on the birds.
Kent, K5KNT
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 07:45, Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@mindspring.com
wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: n0jy@lavabit.com Sent: Nov 9, 2010 8:32 AM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO51 pass this evening 0039UT
I may be hated for this but I have to ask, if you make a contact and you get the call wrong so you would not get a QSL card because you can't mail the right person is it really fair to use another medium to search out the correct call in order to secure the contact for award reasons? I always thought the QSO had to be a successful exchange of at least the call signs over the air to count as a contact. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Jerry N0JY
In my opinion you are 100% correct. Make a second contact to make it legit. If you just want to find the right call for your own reasons or to arrange another contact, cool. If you want to use the busted QSO for an award, not cool.
73, Drew KO4MA
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I personally use a recorder to record my contacts via the birds. I have two hands, one holding the antenna, the other the speaker mic, I'd need two more to hold pen and paper. I'd think so long as the QSL is two way confirmed there's no harm. Regardless how it's logged.
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On Nov 9, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Kent Frazier kent@k5knt.net wrote:
Would this apply to using a digital voice recorder also, in your opinion?
I operate handheld (using an Icom w32a and an Elk antenna) I'm unable to write down ANY information during a contact. I'd hate to think I'm somehow disqualified from an award because I listened to my recordings to log my contacts after the pass is over.
The OP only missed the call by one character, and they sound similar. I'm not sure what equipment both parties were using, but I remember having a very hard time making out calls with my gear. Especially on AO-51 pileups. One of the reasons I quit for awhile is I got tired of competing with the "big guns".
I've been off the air for about a year now. I'm looking forward to getting back on the birds.
Kent, K5KNT
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 07:45, Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@mindspring.com
wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: n0jy@lavabit.com Sent: Nov 9, 2010 8:32 AM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO51 pass this evening 0039UT
I may be hated for this but I have to ask, if you make a contact and you get the call wrong so you would not get a QSL card because you can't mail the right person is it really fair to use another medium to search out the correct call in order to secure the contact for award reasons? I always thought the QSO had to be a successful exchange of at least the call signs over the air to count as a contact. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Jerry N0JY
In my opinion you are 100% correct. Make a second contact to make it legit. If you just want to find the right call for your own reasons or to arrange another contact, cool. If you want to use the busted QSO for an award, not cool.
73, Drew KO4MA
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-----Original Message----- From: Jeremy Kiehner kb3dlp@gmail.com To: Kent Frazier kent@k5knt.net Cc: amsat-bb amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:32 am Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO51 pass this evening 0039UT
I personally use a recorder to record my contacts via the birds. I have two hands, one holding the antenna, the other the speaker mic, I'd need two more to hold pen and paper
As I recall, I used a "Y" adapter coming out of the headphone jack. One side to my earphones, the other to my digital recorder. Made a quick note of my start and end of pass times. I later logged my contacts from the recording based on how far into the pass our contact took place.
73, Gary -K8KFJ- West Virginia Sat VUCC #125
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Andrew Glasbrenner
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Jeremy Kiehner
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k8kfj@aol.com
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Kent Frazier