Re: [amsat-bb] WISP replacement? (or Live digipeating?)
It was possible to enable digipeating in a PACSAT protocol satellite. I wonder if it should be considered? I know I'd like it... ;-)
Live Real-time satellite operations.
I remember 20 years ago, I worked for a month and finally got a PACSAT ground station to work. Did one pass. Once I saw that it was a hands off, automatic process, with nothing to do during the pass but just watch it work, I lost interest and never went back...
I wanted something live...
Bob, WB4APR.
On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 3:09 PM, Douglas Quagliana [email protected] wrote:
All, I'd like to get pbpg running with a soundcard modem on Linux. First, I'm just trying to get pbpg running.
I was able to download pbpg-2.2.1.tar.gz from the AMSAT website, and after a little work I got it to compile and got it installed, but it doesn't seem to run properly on my Linux box. I have kernel version 4.4.75 on this machine, but I could try another kernel version or a completely different distro quite easily.
I strongly suspect I'm "doing it wrong" and there's some more missing setup and config (for example, the "configure/make/make install" didn't create the control FIFO (/etc/pbpg/pb-fifo) nor any of the /var/spool/pbpg/satellite-name directories.
I think I'm missing a required step. Is there more install/config documentation somewhere besides what comes with pbpg-2.2.1.tar.gz ?
Douglas KA2UPW/5
On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Edson W. R. Pereira <[email protected]
wrote:
The Linux version of PB and PG talks to a pseudo TNC using the native
Linux
AX.25 sockets. It has been more than two decades since I have last used
the
native AX.25 sockets and, as far as I can remember, it was not trivial. I suggest modifying the PB and PB software to speak the AX.25 KISS over TCP protocol and talk with DireWolf, a software TNC that implements the G3RUH GFSK 9600 bps modem. DireWolf can be found here:
https://github.com/wb2osz/direwolf
I will try modifying PB and PG to use the KISS protocol as soon as I can spare some time.
DireWolf could be used with a classic transceiver via soundcard and also
to
a SDR receiver such as GQRX or GNURadio and a classic (or SDR)
transmitter.
The software modem could also be implemented directly in GNUradio as
well.
It will be a blast to operate a PACSAT BBS again.
73, Edson PY2SDR
On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Paul Stoetzer [email protected] wrote:
The Linux tools (PacSatTools and PB/PG) are distributed as source code. That code could potentially serve as a guide for how to encode files and interface with a KISS TNC.
See https://www.amsat.org/falconsat-3/
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Robert Switzer via AMSAT-BB [email protected] wrote:
Don't know if this is opensource ( a quick search only found the old
WiSP32 download setup.exe), but this as well as other old programs (I'm thinking Nova, but perhaps others?) would be best
served by getting it out there in the public domain. The other option is to reverse engineer if someone has a working
copy.
On Thursday, September 28, 2017 9:19 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner <[email protected]> wrote:
For all our talented coders out there, a replacement for the
venerable
WISP
software would be well received, and allow much more utilization of
this
satellite resource. Anyone interested?
73, Drew KO4MA
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Unproto digipeating is enabled via PFS3-1.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 7:31 PM, Robert Bruninga [email protected] wrote:
It was possible to enable digipeating in a PACSAT protocol satellite. I wonder if it should be considered? I know I'd like it... ;-)
Live Real-time satellite operations.
I remember 20 years ago, I worked for a month and finally got a PACSAT ground station to work. Did one pass. Once I saw that it was a hands off, automatic process, with nothing to do during the pass but just watch it work, I lost interest and never went back...
I wanted something live...
Bob, WB4APR.
On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 3:09 PM, Douglas Quagliana [email protected] wrote:
All, I'd like to get pbpg running with a soundcard modem on Linux. First, I'm just trying to get pbpg running.
I was able to download pbpg-2.2.1.tar.gz from the AMSAT website, and after a little work I got it to compile and got it installed, but it doesn't seem to run properly on my Linux box. I have kernel version 4.4.75 on this machine, but I could try another kernel version or a completely different distro quite easily.
I strongly suspect I'm "doing it wrong" and there's some more missing setup and config (for example, the "configure/make/make install" didn't create the control FIFO (/etc/pbpg/pb-fifo) nor any of the /var/spool/pbpg/satellite-name directories.
I think I'm missing a required step. Is there more install/config documentation somewhere besides what comes with pbpg-2.2.1.tar.gz ?
Douglas KA2UPW/5
On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Edson W. R. Pereira [email protected] wrote:
The Linux version of PB and PG talks to a pseudo TNC using the native Linux AX.25 sockets. It has been more than two decades since I have last used the native AX.25 sockets and, as far as I can remember, it was not trivial. I suggest modifying the PB and PB software to speak the AX.25 KISS over TCP protocol and talk with DireWolf, a software TNC that implements the G3RUH GFSK 9600 bps modem. DireWolf can be found here:
https://github.com/wb2osz/direwolf
I will try modifying PB and PG to use the KISS protocol as soon as I can spare some time.
DireWolf could be used with a classic transceiver via soundcard and also to a SDR receiver such as GQRX or GNURadio and a classic (or SDR) transmitter. The software modem could also be implemented directly in GNUradio as well.
It will be a blast to operate a PACSAT BBS again.
73, Edson PY2SDR
On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Paul Stoetzer [email protected] wrote:
The Linux tools (PacSatTools and PB/PG) are distributed as source code. That code could potentially serve as a guide for how to encode files and interface with a KISS TNC.
See https://www.amsat.org/falconsat-3/
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Robert Switzer via AMSAT-BB [email protected] wrote:
Don't know if this is opensource ( a quick search only found the old
WiSP32 download setup.exe), but this as well as other old programs (I'm thinking Nova, but perhaps others?) would be best
served by getting it out there in the public domain. The other option is to reverse engineer if someone has a working copy.
On Thursday, September 28, 2017 9:19 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner <[email protected]> wrote:
For all our talented coders out there, a replacement for the venerable
WISP
software would be well received, and allow much more utilization of
this
satellite resource. Anyone interested?
73, Drew KO4MA
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Bob,
Digipeating through PFS3-1 is on, but it would be really nice to use the digipeater for live QSOs and not unattended beacons.
73, Edson PY2SDR
On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 8:31 PM, Robert Bruninga [email protected] wrote:
It was possible to enable digipeating in a PACSAT protocol satellite. I wonder if it should be considered? I know I'd like it... ;-)
Live Real-time satellite operations.
I remember 20 years ago, I worked for a month and finally got a PACSAT ground station to work. Did one pass. Once I saw that it was a hands off, automatic process, with nothing to do during the pass but just watch it work, I lost interest and never went back...
I wanted something live...
Bob, WB4APR.
On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 3:09 PM, Douglas Quagliana [email protected] wrote:
All, I'd like to get pbpg running with a soundcard modem on Linux. First, I'm just trying to get pbpg running.
I was able to download pbpg-2.2.1.tar.gz from the AMSAT website, and after a little work I got it to compile and got it installed, but it doesn't seem to run properly on my Linux box. I have kernel version 4.4.75 on this machine, but I could try another kernel version or a completely different distro quite easily.
I strongly suspect I'm "doing it wrong" and there's some more missing setup and config (for example, the "configure/make/make install" didn't create the control FIFO (/etc/pbpg/pb-fifo) nor any of the /var/spool/pbpg/satellite-name directories.
I think I'm missing a required step. Is there more install/config documentation somewhere besides what comes with pbpg-2.2.1.tar.gz ?
Douglas KA2UPW/5
On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Edson W. R. Pereira < [email protected]> wrote:
The Linux version of PB and PG talks to a pseudo TNC using the native
Linux
AX.25 sockets. It has been more than two decades since I have last used
the
native AX.25 sockets and, as far as I can remember, it was not trivial.
I
suggest modifying the PB and PB software to speak the AX.25 KISS over
TCP
protocol and talk with DireWolf, a software TNC that implements the
G3RUH
GFSK 9600 bps modem. DireWolf can be found here:
https://github.com/wb2osz/direwolf
I will try modifying PB and PG to use the KISS protocol as soon as I can spare some time.
DireWolf could be used with a classic transceiver via soundcard and
also to
a SDR receiver such as GQRX or GNURadio and a classic (or SDR)
transmitter.
The software modem could also be implemented directly in GNUradio as
well.
It will be a blast to operate a PACSAT BBS again.
73, Edson PY2SDR
On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Paul Stoetzer [email protected] wrote:
The Linux tools (PacSatTools and PB/PG) are distributed as source code. That code could potentially serve as a guide for how to encode files and interface with a KISS TNC.
See https://www.amsat.org/falconsat-3/
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Robert Switzer via AMSAT-BB [email protected] wrote:
Don't know if this is opensource ( a quick search only found the old
WiSP32 download setup.exe), but this as well as other old programs
(I'm
thinking Nova, but perhaps others?) would be best
served by getting it out there in the public domain. The other option is to reverse engineer if someone has a working
copy.
On Thursday, September 28, 2017 9:19 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner <[email protected]> wrote:
For all our talented coders out there, a replacement for the
venerable
WISP
software would be well received, and allow much more utilization of
this
satellite resource. Anyone interested?
73, Drew KO4MA
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available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
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